I think they'll use the extra power they'll squeeze out of the systems (via familiarity) to get better textures, lighting, animations etc ala last console generation as these will shift games to the masses. I don't think we'll see a sharp increase in resolution.
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Kotaku: Why PS4's higher resolution than Xbox One matters
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I think they'll use the extra power they'll squeeze out of the systems (via familiarity) to get better textures, lighting, animations etc ala last console generation as these will shift games to the masses. I don't think we'll see a sharp increase in resolution.
They'll be more familiar with the hardware, but alas, the next CoD will be more pretty, aimed at pc specs, and also run better on a similarly more familiar PS4.. And this is just Call of Duty. The race for insane graphics cannot be stopped for third parties, cause they'll have to compete with first party titles to, and new pc gpu to impress.
So everything negative towards the xbox is the "ass storm" a supposed insider was talking about? Yeesh, CBOAT did a number here.
I wholeheartedly believe whatever that was, has nothing to do with resolutions.
jim-jam bongs
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Dude, at least put an NSFW tag on that. I don't need my boss to catch me looking at a wizard humping a bearskin rug.
AstroNut325
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Someone was talking about that a few weeks ago on GAF. The day a multiplatform game NEEDS to be 720p on the PS4 is going to be a day to remember. If 1.8TF is needed to drive 1280x720... what the heck are developers going to do with 1.3TF? There will be blood
and sub-HD games!
I H8 Memes
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The further into this generation we get the more this will be a problem for the xbox 1. Multi-platform titles will not be a pretty situation for Xbox 1 owners towards the end of the generation.
MS has stuff in the pipeline, so they aren't done yet.
Metallix87
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Exactly, but the point is, why wait until after everyone already tried brainwashing the masses? Why not beat them right then and there, before the Holiday buying "season", and just state that 1080p is superior to 720p, done?
You're implying that a Kotaku writer voicing their opinion about resolutions will somehow end any collective debate. Whether or not 1080p looks superior to 720p, and to what degree, is in the eye of the beholder. To which anyone can discern for themselves by looking at comparison screenshots and videos that have been posted on countless websites. This isn't hard to grasp.
EDIT: Also most purchases of Call of Duty aren't made on black Friday, and I imagine the percentage of gamers who would have their CoD purchasing decision influenced by a high-end console resolution is vanishingly small. Since most fans are a) buying the next CoD no matter what and b) buying it for the next-gen console that they already own or have committed to
And if you want to try and convince me that there are more than two dozen people who've had their console purchasing decisions basically determined by Ghost's resolution, well, good luck with that
GrizzleBoy
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Dat ten+ pages of confirmation bias.
To whom does it matter?
To whom does it matter?
To sum up- the game journalists who feel that the resolutions don't matter have their head up their asses. The ones that do are just stating the obvious and clickbaiting. And the ones that don't write about it at all are carrying water for Microsoft by glossing over the serious issues.
JohnStamos1
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Gamers are the worst kind of people. Because they care about stupid shit like this thread. Faggots
Account suicide right here.
have mercy
I am on the toilet right now so I think my sarcasm detection app may be having issues. Right?
Not really. Plenty were sub 720p from day one.
The best looking games were still 720p (Last of Us, Halo 4, Gears J, GOW:A, GTA5, RDR etc).
Domcorleone
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I will quote this so mods can see this and deal with you accordingly.
ZealousMonkey
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He had to be John Stamos. Is this a sign from God?
Fried Food
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That wasn't a very compelling argument
Nocturno999
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Finally, after all the damage control from so called journalists these past months.
Hey, so now the "720p and 1080p are indistinguishable for normal people" messaging coming from the games media can stop being pushed on us every day?
+1 for the truth, I guess, too bad almost no (any?) reviews of the hardware mentioned these minor details before consumers went out and dropped half a grand on their consoles.
Props to Kotaku for being one of the first to reinstate sanity, though.
+1 for the truth, I guess, too bad almost no (any?) reviews of the hardware mentioned these minor details before consumers went out and dropped half a grand on their consoles.
Props to Kotaku for being one of the first to reinstate sanity, though.
Sakura
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What baffles me the most is the people who say they can't really notice a difference between 720p and 1080p. I mean, look at the image in the OP
I don't think that's going to happen.
how can anyone not tell the difference between the two shots there?
I don't think that's going to happen.
I hate this argument. It is quite possible to care about resolution on consoles while acknowledging that PC has higher resolution available and still playing primarily on consoles.
No, however they will look far better than a 720P title played on a 1080P display.
In fact a 720P display is ideal for the Xbox One.
It represents a change of willingness for the games press to admit that it's important and that it makes a difference.
But Kotaku never said that resolutions don't make a difference.
boredandlazy
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Dat 910+ posts of it.
toastyToast
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Can't they just say the PS4 is more powerful hence it can pump out the games at higher res, the implication in power becoming more clear as time progresses and then framing it as why is the cheaper console more powerful, etc.
I feel like the press is consistently missing the issue
I feel like the press is consistently missing the issue
RibbedHero
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If you care about graphics you're playing on the PC either way, with that in mind the power of the consoles shouldn't matter for a multiplatform gamer, the exclusives are what count.
Kotaku has actually been pretty evenhanded-seeming in constrast to most of the press over the past few ridiculous months. Gamespot's comparison charts, many sites' confused/incorrect/bs side by side comparisons, Polygon's everything.
But this new article is still different from even Kotaku's general sentiment over the past few months. I'll just leave this here:
http://kotaku.com/about-those-xbox-one-vs-ps4-graphics-rumors-1454130634
Kotaku is part of the gaming press. Pretty notable in our gaming media. And it makes others look a little more silly than the presses general message of 1 isn't greater than 0.
Common sense isn't something we should reward, but we have to with todays press. No one should have ever downplayed the significance of HD, after ripping the ps3 a new cavity at any second it dipped a frame, or was a lesser resolution. Or, just being alive in todays consumer world. Phones are advertised with HD features, as is everything else. But all of a sudden, now its not really a big deal.
bah fuckin ha.
And as a pc gamer I found it absurd that for the first time in history, mankind couldn't tell the difference between games running at 720p and 1080p over the past two months. (Most of mankind with a job at a game site, anyway.)
For anyone playing games on pc in 1080p for years now, both on monitors and TVs, it's been a real head-scratcher the past few months, and frankly has made it hard to trust a lot of press people going forward.
I care less what it says about the press wanting to soften the blow for microsoft, and more what it says about people's willingness to ignore or twist obvious truths for whatever reason. Whether it's ignorance or fibbing, the game reviewers who honestly can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p should at least have their names recorded on a list of people to ignore when it comes to questions of graphical fidelity/technical accomplishment in games.
Nocturno999
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Because resolution is the only problem with that joke of a company right?
You and OddMorsel are implying that Kotaku should be commended for their "change in willingness", when in reality they haven't changed on this particular topic. Different people from different outlets have expressed different opinions on how they see resolutions, and it seems silly to hold a website accountable for shifting away from past positions that they've never actually expressed.
Now if you can point out specific people in the press who have made contradicting statements on resolutions, then you can call hypocrisy instead of these lazy sweeping generalizations
Business-wise, Microsoft is currently in a much better state than Sony. That could change in the future, but let's get some perspective here.
LOL. IT is such a stupid argument. There may be many reasons you are not gaming on PC but still are interested in the best non PC graphics available.
If you care about driving you have a race car, right? Otherwise you just care about exclusives.
Joke of a company? Aim higher.
Too much truth. The hypocrisy of (certain) console-only gamers continues.
Nocturno999
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But is not about who makes the most money. The Internet's been shitting for months on the brand for endless reasons. It's not just some silly fanboy agenda.
My bad got it the wrong way, also genetics has a huge factor on how a gamer can see a game.
So you are saying that PS4 is for people with better eyesight and therefore people with better genes
Teletraan1
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My whole issue with how the comparisons of these two machines have unfolded in the games media is that very few of them gave a honest technical comparison of the two machines and their attempts to editorialize took the forefront on every comparison. Telling us that resolution didn't matter when anyone with eyes can see the benefits while citing others cant tell the difference. Being able to see guards in the distance and which direction they are facing will be vital for stealth games so there are game play benefits as well. Barring Anandtech they mostly released dishonest comparison charts that in some instances made the XB1 look more powerful than the PS4. People can like whatever brands they want and if someone makes their buying decisions based on exclusives or launch titles that is fine as well. I just wish these sites would have been a little more honest with everyone and laid everything out there and let people make an informed decision over what they wanted rather than this tainted spin we got.
Exactly! Kotaku doesn't even touch on that and it's the most important issue. As a gamer who is only going to buy one console between PS4/Xone I am going to buy the one that gives me the best bang for my buck. If there is already a difference of Xone being 720p and PS4 being 1080p at launch, then what'll it be like years later when the consoles are still going?
I'm going to pick up the most powerful console obviously (assuming that exclusives aren't enough to sway me). That's why I've got a PS4.
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