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L.A. Noire news coming next month
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StealthGoblin
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Wax Free Vanilla said:
Awesome. I wonder if its still MP. From its premise it sounds like it would be a good game to have as an exclusive.
Johnny Utah
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Well good news about Outsider then. But i wonder why it's taking so long? Lack of funding, huma resources, publisher?
Gorgon
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dolemite said:
Did you ever read the lead programers presentation that is available on the web? The search function doesn't seem to be working so I can't find the post I made on another thread with the link but maybe someone here has the link. After you read it I think it will be clear what the excitent is all about. Ogcourse, we don't know how much the game actually resembles those aims.
Johnny Utah said:
Publisher is Rockstar and they're also funding the project. Human resources do seem to be a problem though, looking at the job posts at the site over the last couple years.
They started motion capture five or six years in Oz (back when the game was with Sony), with their own proprietary tech that cost millions; they were using local actors for motion capture, scanning and vocal work. But I guess the Housers found the idea of Aussies being Americans patently absurd or something, and ordered TB to scrap all of the work they had done on that front and use Americans. Tens of millions have been wasted on proprietary tech that will be nowhere to be found in the final product, but I would imagine a lot of that was on Sony's dime.Gorgon said:
But that's not a noir, not even a neo-noir.KGKK said:
Ex-lead's.Gorgon said:
someguyinahat
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What they should have done instead is change the name to "Sydney Noire." I'd still play that.
Rapping Granny
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So Sony spent 20 million and they still aren't getting the exclusivity?
Johnny Utah
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filopilo said:
Sounds like a re telling of Duke Nukem forever.
Rapping Granny said:
It says right there man....traded for a franchise exclusive. Agent anyone?
Johnny Utah
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Sony is street smart. Traded a turd for something with potential.
And Rockstar is learning the old saying momma had, the hard way. "You can't polish a turd".
And Rockstar is learning the old saying momma had, the hard way. "You can't polish a turd".
Reading this, I don't know why McNamara wasn't dumped a while ago, seems like he's just taking the piss with these large pubs/devs now.filopilo said:
If that's true about Team Bondi's working conditions are as bad as Rockstar San Diego's then R* certainly have a massive problem
Garjon said:Reading this, I don't know why McNamara wasn't dumped a while ago, seems like he's just taking the piss with these large pubs/devs now.
If that's true about Team Bondi's working conditions are as bad as Rockstar San Diego's then R* certainly have a massive problem
To be honest, my guess would be that you can replace a lot of studio names with Rockstar SD and get a good idea of their working conditions.
I also like that they state how the houser brothers were McNamaras rivals. Immediately an image of McNamara pops in where he swings his fist and raises his voice "THE HOUSER BROTHERS!".
mr_mcgregors
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I read that as LA Noire being exclusive, so long as SCE didn't attempt to recoup wasted dev costs prior to Rockstar taking the game, no?offshore said:
Irony of this being that it worked fine for LA Confidential! :lolcuyahoga said:
Lagspike_exe
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mr_mcgregors said:
No, Sony got The Agent in exchange for writing off $20 million wasted on LA Noire.
Rapping Granny said:
the 20 million dollars budget is according to the twitter dude ?
we know that Lair and Heavenly Sword costs 20 millions each , and now we know that they gave Fucking Brandan - I listen to no one - McNamara another 20 million dollars after his Getaway disaster .
damn Phil was out of his fucking mind.
Totobeni said:
The lesson Sony learned is you can't spend this kind of money without a properly-tested prototype that plays well, and that they need to stick to the cerny method instead of just let teams spend tens of millions on a "vision" and then spend more just to salvage it into a marketable product. The gameplay mechanics have to be there on day one and have to be fun.
Infinite Justice
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Totobeni said:
According to the twitter it seems it wasn't Phil but SCEA until Sony create worldwide studios and made Phil his boss again. After that was set the new bosses realized he wasn't doing shit and since it balloned so far they tried to see if they could fix it
has this been posted?
Rockstar Pledge Good Year For Playstation 3
didn't want to make a new thread.
Rockstar Pledge Good Year For Playstation 3
http://www.pushsquare.com/10437/rockstar-pledge-good-year-for-playstation-3/
didn't want to make a new thread.
Elan tedronai
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bloody hell. who ever was in charge of authorising new projects was a crazy nutter. 20 million and then scraped?!
Domino Theory
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Ugh, I want Outsiders and LA Noire already. I was amazed when I saw both of them, pre-rendered or not. I need more fucking action adventure games.
Yeah, it's quite bad, especially considering a game's quality can reflect in what they do - the workers end up being stuck somewhere like that and all they can be thankful for is that they still have jobs.AshMcCool said:
The rivalry explains why The Getaway took so long, but not why LA Noire has been through so many changes (if this article is right), unless swinging his fists and chanting their names is actually all he does there
This doesn't sound like one game exclusivity in itself, but bear in mind the Housers are supposedly treating this like the new GTA (unless that's all PR babble)
I wonder if, perhaps how, heavily Sony lobbied T2 to try get some kind of GTA exclusiveness back, rather than settle for Agent; I know I'd rather have some kind of future GTA advantage rather than trying to promote an unproven new IP.
It's a pretty bold claim to say they expect Agent to take after GTA in terms of appeal and sales. When R* and Sony say things like that, it just sets up a fail, which is obviously something I don't want.
It's a pretty bold claim to say they expect Agent to take after GTA in terms of appeal and sales. When R* and Sony say things like that, it just sets up a fail, which is obviously something I don't want.
SecretBonusPoint
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Why do people ever pin hopes on games like these stuck in development hell for years? Theyre clearly not being made by anyone talented, and can only ever amount to being completely mediocre and forgettable. With 2010's current line-up of amazing games, is there really such a gulf that vaporware like this should garner any excitement whatsoever?
The Lost and Damned: 2/17/09ClearCELL said:
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What about that 50 million Microsoft paid for the DLC? I doubt Sony is gonna open up there check book for anything close to that for a game that came out 2 years ago. Especially when The Agent, LA Noire and Red Dead Redemption have release dates this year.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I must confess, I don't know much history behind this McNamara guy, but it's hard to imagine him still being employed in any company after blowing 20 million dollars and having not much to show for it. I'm looking forward to LA Noire, just because the concept interests me. But this information does not fill me with confidence.
So, just to see if I got this straight, McNamara, the Getaway guy, was creating LA Noire, but after a few years and a lot of money, he had nothing to show for it, so Sony dumped it and Rockstar bought it in exchange for giving an exclusive title (Agent) to Sony? Why would Rockstar keep McNamara employed?
These rumours behind Rockstar sort of unnerve me a bit.
So, just to see if I got this straight, McNamara, the Getaway guy, was creating LA Noire, but after a few years and a lot of money, he had nothing to show for it, so Sony dumped it and Rockstar bought it in exchange for giving an exclusive title (Agent) to Sony? Why would Rockstar keep McNamara employed?
These rumours behind Rockstar sort of unnerve me a bit.
Infinite Justice
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NotTheGuyYouKill said:
Because they can't do anything like that since Team Bondi is McNamara's company and Rockstar is just publishing the game.
Could happen if RS drops the game.
The question now is why is Rockstar willing to stick with publishing the game after all this?
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Infinite Justice said:
I guess they're sticking with it to justify how much cash has been blown on it. Or maybe it's actually starting to look good.
Though I don't get why Bondi and Rockstar SD have such (rumours of) terrible conditions and mismanagement. What self-respecting company doesn't get a handle on stuff like that? I've read that most of the Rockstar branches have really high turn-over.
Edit:
Wait, this game has been in development for seven years? Jeez.