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last-gen graphics + 88mb ram = last-gen game design
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DeathbyVolcano
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Boards of Canada
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I'm just wondering, did you miss the part where Nintendo said they aren't competing in a specs race? We know the Revolution is underpowered compared to 360/PS3. We also realize it is going to be much cheaper. We get it, we know it. We accept it. You don't. You don't have to. No one says you have to. Isn't it about time to move on? You were funny, like, a year ago. Every single one of your posts are the same. Why not create one sticky thread called "Wisdom of Drinky" and repeat the same post over and over. Just trying to make your life easier.Drinky Crow said:
P.S. Your avatar isn't funny anymore either.
Drinky Crow really hasn't been funny since it was revealed that he is Andrew Vestal.Odysseus said:
Maybe the GAF writers should have an episode where MAF wakes from a dream and finds Doug Erickson taking a shower. That'd get things back on the right track.
But for now I can only hope that the real Drinky sees his signal...
Boards of Canada
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Well he was funny once, seriously. I laughed a lot at his posts. But lately they're just boring. It's like going to see your favourite stand up comedian for the 5th time doing the same material every single time.Odysseus said:
And I get it, Drinky's act that is. He really does like Nintendo and the Revolution, but he finds amusement in making absurd posts and threads, because that's his job here. He gets people rilled up (not as much as he used to), makes people believe he's serious (I fall for it too), and is sometimes a nice change of pace from the usual gushing threads. He's a slice of OA whenever he posts, and the admins know this place needs that. A great forum has unique, radical, and just plain odd characters, whether they are a product of the admins or not. "Theatre of the mind" on a forum is just as important as it is on the radio.
Just wish he'd stop trying so hard and just start being funny again.
hukasmokincaterpillar
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Count Chocula
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SnakeXs said:
The DS was different. 2 screens in the palm of your hand one being a touch screen. You can see the potential for some useful gameplay application. But Revolution... is literally Gamecube with a point & click controller.
And I looked at the Red Steel images.
1st person sword fighting would be the extent of the good ideas I can think of for this thing. I suspect that we'll be seeing alot of sword fighting games on Revolution.
How about giving me a list of 10 good ideas for the Revmote controller. Right now I'm just not seeing the vision.
Boards of Canada
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And we thank the Gods you're not making games, or in any creative field for that matter.Count Chocula said:
I didn't read the whole thing. How many bans so far?
It's been around a year that Drinky didn't had a big Nbot bait thread to purge this forum from evil.
Still, to answer it... I think it's more $$$$$ that brings innovation instead of hardware power. Super innovative games were obviously possible on PS2/XB/GC, they simply weren't risked. Next-gen isn't gonna be better than this. With costs to make a game being alot higher, publishers will take even less risk and this is going 100% against innovation. Less risk = sequels and proven formulas.
In this regard the Rev is supposed to drive more innovation that it's competitors. Games will cost shit to be made (probably around the $$$ for a PS2 project) then the risk will be ALOT lower than on the 360 and PS3.
It's been around a year that Drinky didn't had a big Nbot bait thread to purge this forum from evil.
Still, to answer it... I think it's more $$$$$ that brings innovation instead of hardware power. Super innovative games were obviously possible on PS2/XB/GC, they simply weren't risked. Next-gen isn't gonna be better than this. With costs to make a game being alot higher, publishers will take even less risk and this is going 100% against innovation. Less risk = sequels and proven formulas.
In this regard the Rev is supposed to drive more innovation that it's competitors. Games will cost shit to be made (probably around the $$$ for a PS2 project) then the risk will be ALOT lower than on the 360 and PS3.
CajoleJuice
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At this point I think Drinky knows he's a caricature of his former GAF self. I don't even know what to think anymore.
But he still has the power to make bigger threads than anyone else without any actual information. :lol
But he still has the power to make bigger threads than anyone else without any actual information. :lol
Great Rumbler
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Yeah, totally! I absolutely LOVE playing Trauma Center with the d-pad!
PhoenixDark
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QFTGreat Rumbler said:
And he seems to forget Metroid Prime Hunters, Tetris, Nintendogs, etc.
OG_Original Gamer
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gofreak said:
Actually Nintendo has a patent on some form AA that mentions "supersampling" alot, now I'm not saying it will be free, just bringing it to your attention.
Frank the Great
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what
Drinky Crow
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I saw the scans over at That Other Age and on some Ninfan's blog.
Count Chocula
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Boards of Canada said:And we thank the Gods you're not making games, or in any creative field for that matter.
Would it have been alright if Nintendo went with N64 graphics for the Gamecube?
Great Rumbler
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What?! When did this happen?!
LiquidMamba
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Trurl said:
Has Drinky found a game with a bigger heart than Chrono Cross?
Vyse The Legend
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Count Chocula said:
Sword fighting, gun play, solving all types of puzzles in adventure games, new types of puzzle games or rebirthing old ones with more immersion like Meteos, Lumines, and Tetris, fishing, tennis, baseball, football, hockey, Super-Punchout, new types of rhythm games a la Drum Hero, casting spells in RPGs, controlling airplanes in shooters and such...
Just to name a few off the top of my head.
Count Chocula said:
Now, I promised not to seriously respond in here again, but alas, I lied, to myself even.
Canada already said it, but thank fucking God you're not in a creative field, especially in gaming.
Now, I'm trying hard not to insult your intelligence, but after that comment, it's pretty damn hard.
Regardless, I'm not gonna waste more time, it will prove itself, as will the fact that you have absolutely 0 creativity, and many, many people out there do.
PhoenixDark
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Drinky Crow said:
Scans aren't as good as having the magazine in your hands. The game does not look bad graphically.
And it's not like the game will look like that in November. It'll be improved.
OG_Original Gamer
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Drinky Crow said:
I find it funny you even took time out to view the gaming ghetto, so nice of you. As a Ninfan, I feel right as rain now.
Last gen game design? Hardly. If anyone thinks that the size of the gameworld and physics are what defines game game design, there is no hope for you. The price of advanced graphics means that indie devs for the most part cant compete with the likes of EA. Which is why XBLA > 360.
Even at NES level there is potential for new game design.
Even at NES level there is potential for new game design.
Drinky Crow said:
good question! an attractive fps was no doubt a pleasant surprise when we all expected some graphically retarded nongame horseshit to unveil revolution, but red steel doesn't really contradict what we know about the hardware specs.
as for the "mouse-like precision," i ask again: anyone notice the GIANT crosshairs? if they mean what they must mean, it's more like sub-gamepad precision.
DeathbyVolcano
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Yes, let's trust in the giant crosshairs rather than what the article is about.
I think that the GI article said that the character gets more accurate as you progress through the game, so maybe the crosshair shrinks as your character becomes more skillful.drohne said:
If the revmote is imprecise (which I don't think it is) Nintendo should just scrap the whole Revolution project and go back to the drawing board.
Bluemercury
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drohne said:
Its called recoil, go play counter strike.....you will understand...
PhoenixDark
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drohne said:
Have you ever played Call of Duty, yes or no? You didn't answer last time someone called you out.
In the final game the crosshairs will be smaller. But early in the game, it will more than likely be bigger as you play more brutally. As time progresses and you get more precise, the crosshair would get smaller.
:Motorbass
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The crosshair propably is so big because unlike with most shooters, it moves across the screen while the camera follows.
The game is about quick reaction and shooting enemies in both horizontal and vertical positions (Z-Combat called in UT). Something that Goldeneye 64 didn't do for example, that's why it worked with the controller.
The game is about quick reaction and shooting enemies in both horizontal and vertical positions (Z-Combat called in UT). Something that Goldeneye 64 didn't do for example, that's why it worked with the controller.
Synth_floyd
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I think it's hilarious that a stupid troll can generate this much controversy.
game mags don't often do objective previews. but we don't need to trust anything; we'll get to play red steel soon enough. and if shots will hit anything within the bounds of those giant crosshairs, then red steel's controls are a joke, and talk of the waggle wand as an fps controller ought to be suspended.
i've played several games where the crosshairs grow and shrink based on player movement -- if that's what's happening here, then no worries.
i've played several games where the crosshairs grow and shrink based on player movement -- if that's what's happening here, then no worries.
Bluemercury
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drohne said:
after reading this my iq just dropped really fast.......
PhoenixDark
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drohne said:
Now you're talking about the objectivity of the preview? Lol welcome to game previews!:lol
You do know games can allow you to decide how big/small your crosshairs are too? God this is such a weak attempt at trolling. Desperation FTL.
Bluemercury
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PhoenixDark said:
Guess i wasnt the only one noticing it.......its like he never played an fps where the machineguns wont hit every same spot.......:S
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