Dark Cloud
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Yeah, you also have to charge them when you play with the Switch when it's in the dock. Wait they use any AA or AAA batteries?
There's no reason for them to go with bundled SD cards this time around. They only did it with the 3DS because (afaik) it used a raw NAND chip with a separate controller, meaning it would have been potentially very difficult for them to offer SKUs with different capacities (they may have needed to produce different mainboards for each model). For the Wii U, however, they've used eMMC, which is a standardised form of flash memory which includes controller on-package and can cheaply and easily be swapped out for a different capacity (even from a different manufacturer if necessary). Hence why Wii U offered two models from day 1 which included different amounts of internal memory.
This time around Nintendo will either be using eMMC or (hopefully) UFS. eMMC is currently available in capacities up to 128GB, UFS up to 256GB, and UFS is capable of higher speeds than eMMC. Cost for UFS memory was about $7.25 for 32GB when the Galaxy S7 launched (a year before Switch), so probably below $5 for Switch, and lower again if they stick with eMMC. My guess is that we're looking at eMMC, with 32GB in the cheaper model and 128GB in the larger one. The cost difference to them should only be about $10, so it would be justifiable given the pack-in game. Ideally I'd like to see them use UFS, with 64GB in the base model and 256GB in the more expensive version, but I can't see them giving both that much extra memory and a pack-in game for an extra $//£ 50.
Still, card+32 will always be less than card+64 or card+128 or whatever.Unless you really want the pack-in the premium version makes little sense. If you want extra storage space you're going to be buying something else and not relying on what's internal.
3DS never had basic/premium SKUs with different size SD cards, though eventual "New" systems had a larger one. Wii U did have basic/premium with different storage, and it was internal.tebunker said:I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the extra storage is going to be a bigger SD Card. Not internal.
Could be wrong but it's just a gut feel and looking at prior Nintendo practices.
MK8 would probably be the more likely of the two, since it would do more to show off what the system could do.MK8 or Splatoon will be a pack-in game. Mark my words!
MK8 would probably be the more likely of the two, since it would do more to show off what the system could do.
MK8 or Splatoon will be a pack-in game. Mark my words!
There's no reason for them to go with bundled SD cards this time around. They only did it with the 3DS because (afaik) it used a raw NAND chip with a separate controller, meaning it would have been potentially very difficult for them to offer SKUs with different capacities (they may have needed to produce different mainboards for each model). For the Wii U, however, they've used eMMC, which is a standardised form of flash memory which includes controller on-package and can cheaply and easily be swapped out for a different capacity (even from a different manufacturer if necessary). Hence why Wii U offered two models from day 1 which included different amounts of internal memory.
This time around Nintendo will either be using eMMC or (hopefully) UFS. eMMC is currently available in capacities up to 128GB, UFS up to 256GB, and UFS is capable of higher speeds than eMMC. Cost for UFS memory was about $7.25 for 32GB when the Galaxy S7 launched (a year before Switch), so probably below $5 for Switch, and lower again if they stick with eMMC. My guess is that we're looking at eMMC, with 32GB in the cheaper model and 128GB in the larger one. The cost difference to them should only be about $10, so it would be justifiable given the pack-in game. Ideally I'd like to see them use UFS, with 64GB in the base model and 256GB in the more expensive version, but I can't see them giving both that much extra memory and a pack-in game for an extra $//£ 50.
I'm still not entirely convinced Nintendo won't build on MK8 and Splatoon to the extent that they can get away with calling it a sequel. Both franchises wouldn't be obscenely early as sequels starting this holiday season.
Smash will clearly be a port. Not convinced on the other 2.
Splatoon is one thing but Mario Kart Switch is very clearly an extended/enhanced port of MK8. Same models, same HUD, same sound effects, etc the only major differences are the inclusion of King Boo and the double item system.
Mario Kart also seems more likely because it's obviously an extended/enhanced port of Mario Kart 8, an already finished game. Most of the bulk has already been done, they're just adding on to it.
I know Emily Rogers said its an enhanced port, but honestly looking at the Splatoon footage we got in the trailer, it could very well just be a full fledged sequel, which may require more time to make.
Wouldn't including the Joy-Con Grip out of the base model help with the whole hybrid idea?Chiming in here to say that I still fully expect this to be priced at $249 and $299 in the U.S. at launch. Here's what I think the configuration will be:
Base Model:
- $249.99
- Includes Switch console with Joy-cons L and R, as well as the dock
- 32Gb built-in memory
- pack-in game
Deluxe Model:
- $299.99
- Includes Switch console with Joy-con L and R, dock, Joy-con grip
- 64Gb built-in memory
- pack-in game
I do not personally expect to see any launch bundle that contains the Pro controller.
Chiming in here to say that I still fully expect this to be priced at $249 and $299 in the U.S. at launch. Here's what I think the configuration will be:
Base Model:
- $249.99
- Includes Switch console with Joy-cons L and R, as well as the dock
- 32Gb built-in memory
- pack-in game
Deluxe Model:
- $299.99
- Includes Switch console with Joy-con L and R, dock, Joy-con grip
- 64Gb built-in memory
- pack-in game
I do not personally expect to see any launch bundle that contains the Pro controller.
Pretty much what i think too, though i think the base model will include the joy-cons grip too, it's essential of you play with Switch docked, also it's included in every official promotional photo, they won't sell a SKU where you'll have to use the joy-cons separately to play on the TV.Chiming in here to say that I still fully expect this to be priced at $249 and $299 in the U.S. at launch. Here's what I think the configuration will be:
Base Model:
- $249.99
- Includes Switch console with Joy-cons L and R, as well as the dock
- 32Gb built-in memory
- pack-in game
Deluxe Model:
- $299.99
- Includes Switch console with Joy-con L and R, dock, Joy-con grip
- 64Gb built-in memory
- pack-in game
I do not personally expect to see any launch bundle that contains the Pro controller.
He said "quote me" then when you did he deleted it lolol
A 3D Mario pack-in would be insane. That's wishful thinking. It would probably be something like Nintendo Land 2.
As much as I would the included game to be Zelda or Mario, I expect it might be Splatoon.
Wouldn't including the Joy-Con Grip out of the base model help with the whole hybrid idea?
hm with ps4s/ xbox one s selling at $250 this holiday season switch being at $250 isn't looking so hot, sure these are black friday deals but next year the prices will probably go down to that permanently, $250 is great for the current nintendo stronghold but for people already into the ps4/xbox systems, they won't making the switch lol, $200 or bust for a handheld.
People took it as if he had insider information, while it was just his opinion.
It would certainly "help", but I don't think it defines that idea. The 3-minute video showed us some proof that the Joy-con L and R controllers will work just fine without the grip. I'd love to be proven wrong here, but I just don't see them giving us a bundle that has the Pro controller. Please prove me wrong Nintendo, please.
This is exactly why I've been saying "$199 or bust."
For those people who are only interested in a console, it needs to hold up to X1/PS4 in terms of value for money. At $249, that's a challenge. At $299, it becomes very difficult.
I feel like it was all-but-confirmed by the joy con grip mode being the very first play style we see in the video. Nintendo is specifically not trying to send mixed signals this time.
Not the first fiscal year if you have Zelda, Smash, Mario Kart, 3D Mario, Splatoon, and whatever other first party games Nintendo releases. After the first fiscal year, you can start worrying about impulse buyers and the less fanatical consumers.
People took it as if he had insider information, while it was just his opinion.
This is exactly why I've been saying "$199 or bust."
For those people who are only interested in a console, it needs to hold up to X1/PS4 in terms of value for money. At $249, that's a challenge. At $299, it becomes very difficult.
$299 for a game and more storage space is fair. I'll buy at that price.
Hope the game is a) not pre-loaded and b) Zelda.
This is exactly why I've been saying "$199 or bust."
For those people who are only interested in a console, it needs to hold up to X1/PS4 in terms of value for money. At $249, that's a challenge. At $299, it becomes very difficult.
Indeed, but a price drop shortly after launch might be bad for optics and may not instill consumer confidence
Case in point - the 3DS. I don't think Nintendo wants to have another Ambassador Program scenario.
For those people who are only interested in a console, it needs to hold up to X1/PS4 in terms of value for money.
IMO people who are only interested in a single console aren't going to be buying this thing no matter what it costs. However, I think for Nintendo-friendly casuals and people who are interested in Nintendo games in either console or handheld forms, these prices are fine for a second console/handheld purchase, or for the kids by the casual parents.
Basically, the Wii audience is the same audience here. I'm NOT saying the Switch will be successful, but I'm saying that the pricing on offer here is not going to be the major stumbling block. It will be other factors.
I already have Mario Kart 8, so I don't see the point on getting a MK8 Switch bundle. I rather get a Switch with no packed game than the same game again.