RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Mark of Kri and uhm... it's sequel.
Aren't they also a support studio? I remember reading somewhere they worked on TLoU.
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Layoffs at Sony San Diego (40-50 people, seemingly everyone but the MLB team)
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Mark of Kri and uhm... it's sequel.
Aren't they also a support studio? I remember reading somewhere they worked on TLoU.
Goose_Se7en
Banned
I wish the best to all those affected, but if this the end for the show, Peter Moore bring back MVP Baseball.
Any word from Demonite?
Makes sense i guess, MLB sells well however they had a AAA game in full production cancelled and a bunch of dud F2P experiments bleed money (Killstrain,Guns Up and the yet to be released Drawn to death).
I guess Sony are giving them no more chances and regulating them to MLB team.
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
Isn't that what Xbox is still doing ?
It was sent to die. Just appeared on the PSN Store one day. Not to mention servers were busted until later in the evening.
Newtype-001
Member
Naughty Dog
Sucker Punch Productions
Media Molecule
Guerrilla Games
Guerrilla Cambridge
Polyphony Digital
PixelOpus
North West Studio (VR)
ForwardWorks (Mobile)
SIE Japan Studio
SIE Santa Monica Studio
SIE Bend Studio
SIE San Diego Studio
SIE London Studio
SIE Foster City Studio
Evolution was shut down recently but Forward works and northwest opened up.
ComputerBlue
Member
I still play 14. Only buy it every 3+ years, but I would have been bummed if the show was no more.
tiebreaker
Member
Where did they invest their money leading the gen??
Ninja Scooter
Member
Sad to hear for those guys, but without being privy to inside information or financials it's hard to say either way whether it was a bad move or fuckup for Sony. Not every decision is black and white in business.
Someone mentioned it a few posts back but this is really a response to the way game development has flipped. Third party games are king, and first party stuff just supplements that, whereas it was the other way around for such a long one. You have to be more cautious about how much money you can pour into games that are only going to sell to half of the consumer base, as opposed to third party offerings. Sony WWS is (or was I guess) fucking massive. Some scaling back (which MS has done too) makes sense in response to the way the industry has changed.
Someone mentioned it a few posts back but this is really a response to the way game development has flipped. Third party games are king, and first party stuff just supplements that, whereas it was the other way around for such a long one. You have to be more cautious about how much money you can pour into games that are only going to sell to half of the consumer base, as opposed to third party offerings. Sony WWS is (or was I guess) fucking massive. Some scaling back (which MS has done too) makes sense in response to the way the industry has changed.
Exceptional.
They laid off the entire studio?
No, the MLB team stays, rest supposedly laid off.
They're pretty high up the list, but I think some of that was them not shutting down as much last generation. Take-Two just missed being a major contender due to shutting down three developers in 2012 and 2013 instead (Irrational, 2K Prague, 2K Marin), so only 2K Australia was hit this generation.
Sony seemed to have a concept that due to lower budgets and no licensing fees, their games weren't going to be impacted by the same trends as all the third parties (or at least still able to break even while releasing something different), and released a bunch of rather out-of-sync products this generation.
I would say that applied to Microsoft as well, but they primarily signed third party developers and just didn't continue their contracts afterwards. That said, we still saw shutdowns there.
We're seeing them change back to really big flagship products as far as retail goes. If PSVR doesn't pan out though, I imagine there will be more cuts incoming.
North West is now known as SIE Manchester Studio
Jack The Nipper
Banned
It was charrimg on second months so it still seemes strange.
Let's wait and see who else gets shit down though. Sony does these aroind the same time.
Even if it's a small layoff, it's not wrong to assume a while team is gone with how Sony has been this generation.
I imagine ex socom devs on tf or cod.. Feels bad.
Oh, still sad but little less I guess
screenshoted for awareness
So they trimmed the fat basically. Those F2P adventures were a mistake.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
MLB The Show 16 was their highest selling entry in the entire Show franchise since roughly a decade ago.
So..what answer are you trying to come up with?
El-Pistolero
Member
I can't comment on this incident, but Shuhei's reign has been less stellar than I had envisaged.
HIGH DEF JEFF
Banned
DaveTheSnake
Member
Feel like I'm in the minority, but I really liked the F2P experiment. Kill Strain was awesome, and so was Drawn to Death.
Sad :-(
Sad :-(
DoubleTake
Member
So this is just the FTP branch of the studio? Sucks for all those losing a job and hope they land on their feet.
This isnt that surprising though. Kill Strain didnt amount to much an what I played of Drawn to Death was honestly pretty meh.
This isnt that surprising though. Kill Strain didnt amount to much an what I played of Drawn to Death was honestly pretty meh.
Ninja Scooter
Member
I think that post was in reference to EA getting back into the baseball business.
Polygon talked to someone affected by the layoff
http://www.polygon.com/2016/9/14/12920504/sony-san-diego-studio-layoffs
http://www.polygon.com/2016/9/14/12920504/sony-san-diego-studio-layoffs
dugdug
Banned
I'm with you. Shuhei fucking sucks this gen. Why are studios who *actually release games* getting shut down, while others who delay them stay alive?
funkystudent
Member
So just Kill Strain? Thats unfortunate but understandable.
Is Jaffes game effected? I think it was going though XDEV from San Diago.
Well the guy who was in charge of MS first party back then is now in charge of all of Xbox so ya know. Things havent change much with the 1th party
But at least he is better in interviews.
Is Jaffes game effected? I think it was going though XDEV from San Diago.
Well the guy who was in charge of MS first party back then is now in charge of all of Xbox so ya know. Things havent change much with the 1th party
But at least he is better in interviews.
TheRealTalker
Banned
makes sense to make it only into an MLB studio
sucks though.... they tried some titles like that PS Move wizard game and I believe Kill Strain but their other games seemed to get more and more smaller
it was only a matter of time
sucks though.... they tried some titles like that PS Move wizard game and I believe Kill Strain but their other games seemed to get more and more smaller
it was only a matter of time
Ninja Scooter
Member
Deciding an executive "sucks" based on whatever information we have seems really dumb and childish. You guys act like he gets off on shutting down studios.
Guns Up! was also quite bad. Three bad games in a row won't cut it in todays climate sadly.
EnlightenedMint
Member
Sad to see, hope all the workers can land on their feet.
Yeah it sounds the same with SSM unfortunately.
DangerMouse
Member
Pretty much this I think.
The baseball game team probably isn't going anywhere, they still dominate.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Oh, still sad but little less I guess
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Yeah this makes more sense. I think Sony just looked at what San Diego and prioritized from there. Keeping their baseball division make sense. Critical / Commercial success, and it effectively gives the PS4 an advantage when it comes to the sports genre. It would be silly to cut that off.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Hmmmm...Peter Moore maaaaaay have inadvertently hinted at EA taking the Baseball licence in that interview with Ryan McCaffrey.
Ryan pressed him on making a baseball game and he said nothing to say "at this time".
Did EA lock up the licence perhaps? I'd say they might have seen how the Show was selling and saw Xbox fans wanting a baseball game and thought there's money to be made?
So maybe Sony will also look more towards 3rd party developed exclusives and first party games like MS has been doing a bit this gen. it must be a cheaper way of getting exclusives.
Ryan pressed him on making a baseball game and he said nothing to say "at this time".
Did EA lock up the licence perhaps? I'd say they might have seen how the Show was selling and saw Xbox fans wanting a baseball game and thought there's money to be made?
So maybe Sony will also look more towards 3rd party developed exclusives and first party games like MS has been doing a bit this gen. it must be a cheaper way of getting exclusives.
Pretty much this. Outside of a few Nintendo games, I can't remember the last first party game from any camp that hit double digit million sales on their platform. Meanwhile, a lot of the third party big hitters can do that with no problem.
neurosyphilis
Definitely not an STD, as I'm a pure.
I know you saw that edit.
A collaboration with Jaffe's studio. No way to know how much they helped.
Newtype-001
Member
Hopefully these guys can get back quick.
Sad to hear about the cancellation of the unannounced project.
Might have been f2p tho so...