Man, that Queen Facehugger is pretty sweet.
I have that flying alien queen in an attic somewhere
Man, that Queen Facehugger is pretty sweet.
I think that's why Halo and Titanfall have half assed blood and gibs. The games could easily be T without changing the tone.I think it's an open secret that games such as Gears or God of War or GTA are technically rated for adults but appeal very strongly to 12-15 year old males. It's the age when you're desperate to be cooler and more "adult" than you are.
So the game industry is the reverse movie industry?I think that's why Halo and Titanfall have half assed blood and gibs. The games could easily be T without changing the tone.
So the game industry is the reverse movie industry?
Hollywood censors and removes adult content in a desperate attempt to get a PG-13 rating with the hopes that a lower rating = more sales.
The video game industry injects adult content into games to make the "Mature" in the hopes that a higher rating = more sales.
So the game industry is the reverse movie industry?
Hollywood censors and removes adult content in a desperate attempt to get a PG-13 rating with the hopes that a lower rating = more sales.
The video game industry injects adult content into games to make the "Mature" in the hopes that a higher rating = more sales.
Yes, I think that's true, but a lot of this has to do with the games we're talking about. This effect is only noticeable on PS/Xbox consoles, where a hugely disproportionate number of the big hits are violent. I can imagine on Nintendo consoles or 3DS or iOS that there would be an aversion to violence, but on PS/Xbox violence is absolutely selected for.
Not violence in general though. Nintendo has plenty of cartoony violence that would be relatable in a tom & jerry style of context. Realistic violence though, it is pretty light on.
I don't think link is beating Gannon with a dance off towards the end of the game, nor are the characters in smash brothers just hugging it out. It is just flavored and served differently.
I owned this toy as a kid.
It makes the X-Men toys look like teddy bears.
So? I had Robocop toys, a helmet and even a toy gun when I was kid.
Friggin' Robocop.
This isn't new.
I remember playing with this guy. What the heck was that pole sticking out of his fist supposed to be?!
I remember playing with this guy. What the heck was that pole sticking out of his fist supposed to be?!
Pretty much, we all wanted to grow up so fast at that age. And now I could do with being in my early 20s again.It's the age when you're desperate to be cooler and more "adult" than you are.
Pretty much. I've always thought that the only reason Halo was rated M was because MS asked for it. There is no reason why it couldn't have been T.So the game industry is the reverse movie industry?
Hollywood censors and removes adult content in a desperate attempt to get a PG-13 rating with the hopes that a lower rating = more sales.
The video game industry injects adult content into games to make the "Mature" in the hopes that a higher rating = more sales.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only Zelda that has ever gotten a T rating was Twilight Princess and I think it got that only because there was no E+10 yet. Then along came Skyward Sword and it got a E+10 rating instead of course.I agree, I didn't mean to imply Nintendo has no violence at all. Your example -- Zelda -- often gets a T rating for the exact reasons you noted. It's just distinctly less than on PS/Xbox consoles.
And I also agree that violence can be defined in different ways. I wouldn't say Mario is absolutely without violence, for instance. Sports games definitely aren't, either (well, Madden in particular).
No you don't. In COD you kill people in Gears you kill aliens. Aliens don't exist.
No you don't. In COD you kill people in Gears you kill aliens. Aliens don't exist.
I remember playing with this guy. What the heck was that pole sticking out of his fist supposed to be?!
That's terrible. I has no idea they had toys and backpacks for kids for CoD and GeoW!
On another related note I never got why Halo was M. Uncharted is more violent, bloody and use more cuss words than Halo ever did and yet that one got a T. Not to mention in Halo you fight random aliens with no blood and in Uncharted human beings. Halo should've been T at the very least. I'd argue Halo 1 could get an E+10 even!
Correct on the first statement if you're only counting main games (one-third correct if you're also counting spin-offs) and completely wrong on the second:Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the only Zelda that has ever gotten a T rating was Twilight Princess and I think it got that only because there was no E+10 yet.
I agree, I didn't mean to imply Nintendo has no violence at all. Your example -- Zelda -- often gets a T rating for the exact reasons you noted. It's just distinctly less than on PS/Xbox consoles.
And I also agree that violence can be defined in different ways. I wouldn't say Mario is absolutely without violence, for instance. Sports games definitely aren't, either (well, Madden in particular).
Why are we pretending that anyone actually gives a shit about ESRB ratings? I'm sure almost all of you have played M rated games before 17 years old.
This thing was awesome. Look how much fun those kids are having!
Alien action figure commercial from 1979
There was a big stink about this exact issue with this toy in '79; marketing a violent, scary movie to kids. That's why the figure is so rare and expensive now.
Came home from college one year and found this guy in my basement with his legs busted off. One of my little brothers, or their friends. Never found out who, but I'm still bitter about it!
I remember R-rated movie franchises from the 80's like Terminator, RoboCop, and Aliens had toys, but that has mostly disappeared. Of course, kids have played with toy soldiers for centuries.
Is selling toys to children based on games for adults wrong? The toys themselves obviously lack the explicit content that made the games "adult".
When companies like Activision figure out sales projections and marketing budgets for M-rated titles, do they factor in how to maximize the game's sales and appeal to kids under 17?
Hell, even Mortal Kombat got a cheesy kid-friendly cartoon.
Nothing is safe from the almighty transmedia merchandising machine. Nothing.
I used to love the cartoon version of Rambo.
But more to the topic at hand anyone got that video of the kid getting one of the GTA games and crying because he's so happy.
Kid must have been what....five?
I pointed this out to my wife the last time we were in toys-r-us. I don't get it but I have a feeling there is a large percentage of parents that have no idea about ESRB ratings or what they mean.
And yet we grew up with the same shit in the 80s and 90s. We all watched fucking Rambo, Terminator, Alien, Predator, Die Hard and other violent films and played their video game tie ins back in the day. It's nothing new or shocking....