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LIZARD SQUAD is Back. Planning XBL Attack. "Biggest attack yet". [UP: XBL/PSN Down]

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~Kinggi~

Banned
Miktar said:
Sony did invest in more than the mimunum - they partnered with Prolexic, a not insignificant DDoS mitigation third-party specialist. And it wasn't enough. The *scale* of the attack yesterday still hasn't quite hit home yet.

MS clearly has their own mitigation, I posted about it earlier in the thread already, and they are in the business of offering enterprise-level hosting, so they *have* to have good DDoS mitigation. They handled the storm slightly better.

Yes, Sony and MS could spend more on mitigation, but eventually it's a loss - spending millions to prevent an attack that might never happen?
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Clearly the 'might not ever happen' is turning into something a bit more common now.
 
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DrunkDan

Member
modest-genius said:
Just a bunch of loser who get the kicks out of disrupting other people lives - people who are so sad that they have nothing better to do on a holiday than make other people's lives worse.

Congrats
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Exactly. They think it's for some high and mighty reason and that they're sticking it to the corporations but in reality they just fuck it up for the everyday consumer. A ton of children who's Christmas presents are rendered useless for a bit, what's the point in that?

And nobody has ever not bought a product because it had a few days downtime. Just some utterly selfish shit done by a bunch of cunts who probably think they're extremely funny.
 
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Lé Blade Runner

Member
This is so frustrating. Here I am, alone at my house for once, and would have loved to play some FFXIV through the PS4 before going on a work-related trip tomorrow. Ah well.
 
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Zakalwe

Banned
Thanks for the responses.

Miktar said:
Yes, Sony and MS could spend more on mitigation, but eventually it's a loss - spending millions to prevent an attack that might never happen?
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Is there a point they could get to where it wouldn't be worth the effort for groups to just attack on a whim for the Lolz?

If there is and they could afford it, wouldn't that be worth it?

Or you're saying that point wouldn't be affordable?
 
DietRob

DietRob

i've been begging for over 5 years.
Ok so I'm listening to this interview and these douchebags are saying that these companies should have procedures in place to prevent DDOS attacks but ITT people keep saying that DDOS attacks are something that can't be prevented.

Earlier somebody made an analogy about 100's of people trying to ring your doorbell sure there are 'friends' in that line of 100 people ringing the bell but it's not possible to just let them in without the people on the porch bum rushing the door when you open it.

I don't get it. Do the VirginSquad douchebags not understand what they are doing or are there actually ways for MS and Sony to prevent these DDOS attacks.
 
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pip77

Member
shpankey said:
Where's Jack Bauer? Someone get him NOW! He'll need Chloe and a Socket, NOW!
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90sRobots

Member
Haha the hackers were totally angsty kids that saw THE DARK KNIGHT Joker and thought, "I too could be an agent of chaos... maybe dad will come back one day..."
 
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Darryl M R

Member
God even though I hate this, so far in the interview, the Lizard Squad 2 guy is eloquent enough to explain his perceived logic.

I hope there are no more copycats and I do hope MS and Sony improve their security. I removed my CC information from my PSN account a few months ago. Also the BBC interviewer sounds so douchey. This whole situation is just doucheness.
 
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Dodecagon

works for a research lab making 6 figures
The kids in those interviews are a front. The American government is responsible. They think videogames are consuming the childhoods of American children and they want to take psn and xbl out to get our youth exercising, learning, and socializing so that they'll be ready to compete on a global stage for superiority.
 
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shysaursoft

Member
~Kinggi~ said:
Clearly the 'might not ever happen' is turning into something a bit more common now.
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Sure, but again - this is an unbalanced war. Growing a botnet is free, fast, and easy. DDoS attacks used to clock in at 1.4Gbps in 2011. They're now up to 400Gbps. So any mitigation installed in the last 3 years is already so woefully inadequate, it's not funny.

Mitigation requires setting up systems and hardware to take on a hypothetical. And clearly, the botnet reality is outpacing the hypothetical that mitigation services protect against, quite fast.

I've been saying for the last three days - this is a problem, and only now are more people starting to realize it, thanks to these attacks. The one good thing that might come out of all this, is that people might pay more attention to the problem.

Kind of like climate change having an increasing effect on our planet - that's making more and more people realize things need to change. Right?

Zakalwe said:
Thanks for the responses.

Is there a point they could get to where it wouldn't be worth the effort for groups to just attack on a whim for the Lolz?

If there is and they could afford it, wouldn't that be worth it?

Or you're saying that point wouldn't be affordable?
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If Sony spent every single penny of their revenue on JUST DDoS mitigation, then yeah - they'd be a damn tough nut to crack, and likely any attack would just aim at a softer target.

And now Sony is bankrupt. So, it wasn't quite worth it, was it?

It's a balancing act, and right now, one side is very unbalanced because of how easy it is to increase the power of a DDoS, versus the technology and systems that can mitigate.
 
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ErasureAcer

Banned
Dodecagon said:
The kids in those interviews are a front. The American government is responsible. They think videogames are consuming the childhoods of American children and they want to take psn and xbl out to get our youth exercising, learning, and studying so that they'll be ready to compete on a global stage for superiority.
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If kids didn't have games after school...they'd probably be out in the streets raising hell instead. Don't buy it.
 
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LookAtMeGo

Member
Dodecagon said:
The kids in those interviews are a front. The American government is responsible. They think videogames are consuming the childhoods of American children and they want to take psn and xbl out to get our youth exercising, learning, and studying so that they'll be ready to compete on a global stage for superiority.
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No, the illuminati wants us to play COD to make us better soldiers /s
 
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test_account

XP-39C²
Kiant said:
"Doing this to raise awareness"

Then why do they continue to attack the network and instead, just make the company aware. That 22 year old tries to sound highly intellectual, but in reality he just sounds like a moron.
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Its just an excuse they use, trying to make it sound ok to do it. I wonder what they would say if someone broke into their house and sent them a letter, saying that they only broke into their house to raise awareness that they need better security (this example isnt to draw any parallell to PSN and Xbox Live security, it is just to show that there are other ways to raise awareness).
 
Data Ghost

Data Ghost

Member
Lets not give them too much credit. They have not hacked Xbox Live or PSN by any means. They have just queried the shit out of it bringing it to a halt. Two very different things.
 
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DenogginizerOS

BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
Lizard Squad endorses Xbox Live over PSN in that BBC interview. Doubt we'll see that endorsement on Xbox Live cards. Anyone else surprised by how much they praised Xbox Live over PSN?
 
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