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LIZARD SQUAD is Back. Planning XBL Attack. "Biggest attack yet". [UP: XBL/PSN Down]
- Thread starter Horse Armour
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Sidewinder
Member
Nothing works anymore, yesterday I still managed to get into UK Vita store, now everything on Vita and PS4 is down...maybe I should boot up PS3 and check there for the lulz...fucking Lizards!!!
blazeuk
Member
Yep, same thing just happened to me. Have been playing Destiny for a few hours today and just as I was about to start the raid my friends list disappeared and I got booted from the game and can't connect again.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
PSN down in southeast Michigan. Lizard Squad can lick every inch of my balls and taint.
| Praxis |
Banned
Let's not reward them.
SDCowboy
Member
lol dude, wtf.
fwj
Banned
(Today, 01:48 PM)
Utterly flawless.
shysaursoft
Member
*walks back into thread*
FinestSquad, Lulzsec, Anon, LizardSquad, are all likely the same people or groups that overlap, who enjoy messing around by putting on these little "shows". I wouldn't take anything any of them say seriously.
Because it's not easy to find the instigator of a botnet.
They did it for the lulz, nothing else. The people who were interviewed on the BBC are probably not even the instigators, just fans or rubes who agreed to go on and pretend to be LS.
Until Sony releases an official press statement via the official channels, believe nothing.
Anyone can rent time on a botnet and aim it at something. Costs around $100 to get a botnet to attack something for a week. More expensive if you want a larger volume of attack. It's a big problem, getting bigger every day due to how these botnets grow at an exponential rate. There is no lesson here, other than a stark reminder that the internet has a real problem with its infrastructure and nobody seems to care, since it's everyone else's problem.
Fake doxx was fake, and is now being used to harass innocent people with mob justice.
Because PSN doesn't exist in one single place - it is spread out across multiple datacenters/login servers in multiple regions. That's why someone in NY can log in, while someone in Chicago can't - because the NY login mirror is working, while Chicago is down. Some datacenters may double up for multiple regions, while stil having some of their portals down while others are working, so even if two regions overlap on a datacenter, they could get a different end-user experience. It's rudimentary CDN infrastructure. It's comical to see you judge others, while you don't understand how things work yourself.
Sony's third-party DDoS mitigator is Prolexic. I think the fault lay partially with them for not handling the DDoS properly? There may be thousands of webservices that avoid going down after being DDoSed, and yet 1/3 of all downtime incidents in the world are attributed to DDoS attacks (Merril Research/Verisign). There are over 2k DDoS attacks daily (Arbor). So a thousand sites don't go down. Thousands more do. And either way, the size and scope of the DDoS on the 24th would have taken anything down. Even Google can't handle a DDoS of a certain size without throwing up the iron wall. Throwing money at this problem may help somewhat, but there is a limit. You should know that. This is the same group and likely same botnet that took down the NCSoft datacenter, BattleNet, and STEAM for crying out loud.
The people on the BBC interview were lying.
I would advise against taking anything said on Twitter too seriously. It's likely just all a big act, a dog and pony show, done for the group's own amusement. It's chan culture: let everyone believe something is happening, while you know it isn't, and that makes you better than the people falling for it.
...
And I'm done. I've spent over three days in this thread, and watched it loop almost five times through the exact same question/answer sessions, so I think by now I could write a bot to respond to things and nobody would realize. Either way, I don't want to lose another day here. Good luck to everyone, hope the storm passes.
*walks out*
FinestSquad, Lulzsec, Anon, LizardSquad, are all likely the same people or groups that overlap, who enjoy messing around by putting on these little "shows". I wouldn't take anything any of them say seriously.
Because it's not easy to find the instigator of a botnet.
They did it for the lulz, nothing else. The people who were interviewed on the BBC are probably not even the instigators, just fans or rubes who agreed to go on and pretend to be LS.
Until Sony releases an official press statement via the official channels, believe nothing.
Anyone can rent time on a botnet and aim it at something. Costs around $100 to get a botnet to attack something for a week. More expensive if you want a larger volume of attack. It's a big problem, getting bigger every day due to how these botnets grow at an exponential rate. There is no lesson here, other than a stark reminder that the internet has a real problem with its infrastructure and nobody seems to care, since it's everyone else's problem.
Fake doxx was fake, and is now being used to harass innocent people with mob justice.
Because PSN doesn't exist in one single place - it is spread out across multiple datacenters/login servers in multiple regions. That's why someone in NY can log in, while someone in Chicago can't - because the NY login mirror is working, while Chicago is down. Some datacenters may double up for multiple regions, while stil having some of their portals down while others are working, so even if two regions overlap on a datacenter, they could get a different end-user experience. It's rudimentary CDN infrastructure. It's comical to see you judge others, while you don't understand how things work yourself.
Sony's third-party DDoS mitigator is Prolexic. I think the fault lay partially with them for not handling the DDoS properly? There may be thousands of webservices that avoid going down after being DDoSed, and yet 1/3 of all downtime incidents in the world are attributed to DDoS attacks (Merril Research/Verisign). There are over 2k DDoS attacks daily (Arbor). So a thousand sites don't go down. Thousands more do. And either way, the size and scope of the DDoS on the 24th would have taken anything down. Even Google can't handle a DDoS of a certain size without throwing up the iron wall. Throwing money at this problem may help somewhat, but there is a limit. You should know that. This is the same group and likely same botnet that took down the NCSoft datacenter, BattleNet, and STEAM for crying out loud.
The people on the BBC interview were lying.
I would advise against taking anything said on Twitter too seriously. It's likely just all a big act, a dog and pony show, done for the group's own amusement. It's chan culture: let everyone believe something is happening, while you know it isn't, and that makes you better than the people falling for it.
...
And I'm done. I've spent over three days in this thread, and watched it loop almost five times through the exact same question/answer sessions, so I think by now I could write a bot to respond to things and nobody would realize. Either way, I don't want to lose another day here. Good luck to everyone, hope the storm passes.
*walks out*
I know someone who is ready to do the same. He can't use his new ps4 because he can't connect to update. I'd prefer him to have a ps4 than a XBO but I understand why he wouldn't want to deal with this shit on a new present.
And why not. It's going on at least 3 or 4 days now. Live has been up and working. People still can't log in on PSN. I pay 50 bucks a year for PSN to work. I can't log in, get to the store. I have games like Destiny, GTA that I can't play online because of this.
Sure you can say it's just an inconvenience but when I see the competition doing better in MANY regards to it's network and OS infrastructure I tend to pay attention.
divinedbullet
Banned
cod servers down again
What a joke
What a joke
Noisepurge
Member
After 3 days of downtime I was able to log back in to only get booted an hour later....
For real, what the fuck is Sony doing?
It's a fucking simple DDOS attack, once the attacks slow down the system goes back up automatically.
Ideally you won't even need to do anything, but of course it's Sony they most likely created a bigger mess by their counter actions. So we all have to suffer due to Sony's incompetence.
gregor7777
Banned
The person I know that swapped for a One talked to a friend who said their kids had been playing since yesterday. That was all she needed to hear to make the swap. It's a game console and they want to play it now. AFAIK, they don't give a shit about exclusives or differences in hardware. They want the 3rd party games to work right now.
SDCowboy
Member
PSN is down...
KnockOneOff
Banned
Yup, the Twitter feed you want to watch is lizardmafia, a lot of fake lizardsquad accounts at the mo
Don't know why they would want to pretend to be lizard squad when they could end up been sat inside a nice cold cell
Live Free or Die
Banned
just stop please.
divinedbullet
Banned
Pattycakes
Banned
What is the MTU trick?
echoshifting
Banned
And everything is down again.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
Nah I'm a big Playstation fan but honestly there is no defending PSN.
Live Free or Die
Banned
Basically everyone is trying to login at the same time thats why there are still login problems.
what happened has nothing to do with PSN as a service. xbl went down too and is still having troubles on and off.
Illusive_Juan
Member
Anyone having issues playing GTA Online on Xbox One? I can't connect at all.
why its back up woohoooo yaaayyyy, ohhh bollox no. Pile of shit.
ArgyleGamer
Member
I have backed Sony in the past, but the fact that PSN can't maintain network parity with Xbox Live is starting to get really annoying. I wouldn't sell my PS4 because of this incident, but for the amount of money they are making from new plus subscribers over the last year they should be able to nip these type of situations in the bud quickly, not over the course of a week.
SDCowboy
Member
I'm logged in. That's not the issue for me. I can't get into the PSN store or play online games like COD.
brotherbean
Member
Welp, I got one glorious hour this morning before signing off to shower and now it appears to be down again. For fuck's sake Sony, get your shit together before people start returning consoles.
Live Free or Die
Banned
You can backup saves to a USB https://support.us.playstation.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5228/~/manage-ps4-save-game-data
Man this noon I was playing BF4 and turned of my PS4 thinking I could play again in the evening, now it's offline again. This sucks so much, regardless of who is to blame.
I took my PS4 with me when I went to my family over the holidays until new years eve. That is seven days off work with a lot of time to play (besides a few family meals and gatherings in between), and until now, three of those days I couldn't play.
Makes me kind of regret buying three months of Plus a week ago and BF4 Premium Edition two days ago.
I took my PS4 with me when I went to my family over the holidays until new years eve. That is seven days off work with a lot of time to play (besides a few family meals and gatherings in between), and until now, three of those days I couldn't play.
Makes me kind of regret buying three months of Plus a week ago and BF4 Premium Edition two days ago.
Live Free or Die
Banned
I was just passing along with what they said on twitter. There are a high volume of users.
Live has been about at 90% capacity. People can play online right now. PSN has been DOWN for about 3 days now. Aside from a grace period where they could log in.
So far it seems the attacks aren't even going on anymore. Why is it taking so long for the service to get up and running?
Don't give me the excuse that Live just handles this better. We know that. No excuse for Sony not to handle this just as well. If they can't handle it they need to take some of that PSN money and either hire MS to manage their online network or find someone who can.
gregor7777
Banned
So when are we allowed to be mad at Sony for being slow or unable to respond to this? How many days have to pass?
Given all criticism is being defended vigilantly I figure we should ask first. A time and date, if you please.
Given all criticism is being defended vigilantly I figure we should ask first. A time and date, if you please.
Hidden One
Member
Logging in awaits!
Huh? You can move saves using usb...
If true, that sounds like blatant incompetence if they have a paid network that can't handle all normal users at the same time.
*walks back into thread*
FinestSquad, Lulzsec, Anon, LizardSquad, are all likely the same people or groups that overlap, who enjoy messing around by putting on these little "shows". I wouldn't take anything any of them say seriously.
Because it's not easy to find the instigator of a botnet.
They did it for the lulz, nothing else. The people who were interviewed on the BBC are probably not even the instigators, just fans or rubes who agreed to go on and pretend to be LS.
Until Sony releases an official press statement via the official channels, believe nothing.
Anyone can rent time on a botnet and aim it at something. Costs around $100 to get a botnet to attack something for a week. More expensive if you want a larger volume of attack. It's a big problem, getting bigger every day due to how these botnets grow at an exponential rate. There is no lesson here, other than a stark reminder that the internet has a real problem with its infrastructure and nobody seems to care, since it's everyone else's problem.
Fake doxx was fake, and is now being used to harass innocent people with mob justice.
Because PSN doesn't exist in one single place - it is spread out across multiple datacenters/login servers in multiple regions. That's why someone in NY can log in, while someone in Chicago can't - because the NY login mirror is working, while Chicago is down. Some datacenters may double up for multiple regions, while stil having some of their portals down while others are working, so even if two regions overlap on a datacenter, they could get a different end-user experience. It's rudimentary CDN infrastructure. It's comical to see you judge others, while you don't understand how things work yourself.
Sony's third-party DDoS mitigator is Prolexic. I think the fault lay partially with them for not handling the DDoS properly? There may be thousands of webservices that avoid going down after being DDoSed, and yet 1/3 of all downtime incidents in the world are attributed to DDoS attacks (Merril Research/Verisign). There are over 2k DDoS attacks daily (Arbor). So a thousand sites don't go down. Thousands more do. And either way, the size and scope of the DDoS on the 24th would have taken anything down. Even Google can't handle a DDoS of a certain size without throwing up the iron wall. Throwing money at this problem may help somewhat, but there is a limit. You should know that. This is the same group and likely same botnet that took down the NCSoft datacenter, BattleNet, and STEAM for crying out loud.
The people on the BBC interview were lying.
I would advise against taking anything said on Twitter too seriously. It's likely just all a big act, a dog and pony show, done for the group's own amusement. It's chan culture: let everyone believe something is happening, while you know it isn't, and that makes you better than the people falling for it.
...
And I'm done. I've spent over three days in this thread, and watched it loop almost five times through the exact same question/answer sessions, so I think by now I could write a bot to respond to things and nobody would realize. Either way, I don't want to lose another day here. Good luck to everyone, hope the storm passes.
*walks out*
I'm glad someone here is on the same page and understanding/guesstimation as I am about all this. Thanks for posting this.
I understand what has happened and the fact live went down as well but the fact it's taking them this long to get everything restored when the competition has been working decently for a while now is just horrible they need to step it up.
Why stop at Sony? Let's revolt against the government for not being able to arrest the hackers!
ThatGuyAgain
Member
I am able to log into the Playstation app on my phone now. Maybe they are getting close