Hugh Swank
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EA Access might spell bad news (sales wise) for a crappy game, but it's great for consumers.
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Looks like EA access early access backfired badly for Mass Effect: Andromeda
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Maybe he's actually enjoying the game.
Kenzodielocke
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This game will sell really good, might be the best selling Mass Effect game, or fastest selling.
As opposed to every other dev that lets you have early access to their full game the free, oh wait....
The early trial is a single feature of their subscription service which is fantastic vs anything else out there.
I say this as someone who no longer has a Xb1 and is ps4 only. If Sony allowed the service I would instantly re subscribe.
Ghost Recon has sold and continues to sell shitloads.
brokenbeans
Banned
Just the fact I can install a game before release even if I decide to go retail is a fantastic feature.
It's not exactly "arbitrary". There's actual logistics that prevent them being able to make a physical copy available as early as a digital copy... and retail pressure makes simply selling the standard digital version early not an option either.
Did the whole thing explode on social media or anything? Like, wonky animations being trending topic on Twitter or something like that?
This may be a bit of an echo chamber effect. Not underplaying the issues, but people outside enthusiasts forums may not be as aware.
In any case, yeah, great for the consumers. There are too many great games releasing this year to buy a mediocre one at full price.
AntraxSuicide
Banned
Yeah, I caught that too. OP needs to get over their seeming hatred of Access.
hydrophilic attack
Member
as a brand, before 2017, ghost recon wasn't anywhere close to mass effect
The Amazon sales charts are completely worthless as sales metrics for videogamess. The chart that you are so highly touting will end up being way off at the end of the month. Zelda will not be anywhere close to GR: Wildlands in unit sales and the same will be true for ME:A. I am not sure why you think otherwise.
With respect to EA's long term plans, I do not think this will have any impact on EA Access/Origin. TF2 was not on EA access and it bombed out the gate. I would bet my bottom dollar that they regret not having put it on EA access.
It was a $5 10hour prelaunch rental.
hydrophilic attack
Member
that game was better than expected though
a good strategy would have been to put games that are turning out well on earlyaccess, but not games that are a bit shitty
jonscrambler
Member
game will sell fine, tons of people subscribed to EA Access just because of the game, some gaf hyperbole here
Does that really matter? Ghost Recon is much bigger now. If you were outselling GTA1 and GTA2, you weren't suddenly a failure if you didn't outsell GTA3 onwards also.
AHA-Lambda
Member
5 years after the last game which closed off a Trilogy, plus with mediocre reviews?
I'd be shocked if that were to happen personally
Tranqueris
Banned
What went wrong here?
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Yep, totally not a big deal at all.
I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow talked themselves into believing that the reaction wouldn't be as bad as it is, so they had no problem with putting it on EA Access. Who knows though.
Sure if you want to telegraph to the market what games you are unsure about. That is not how EA does business. Sure they might take some lumps with ME as they did with TF but they will have other games pick up the slack. You do not end up being neck and neck with Activision in revenue and sales if you do not know what you are doing.
Frozenprince
Banned
It's been out less than 24 hours and has now passed Ghost Recon.
Frozenprince
Banned
I mean the response I saw from the Ghost Recon beta was OVERWHELMINGLY negative and that's still selling hand over fist.
The multiplayer for this when multiplayer games haven't had a big push in a few months​ will sell copies by itself.
The multiplayer for this when multiplayer games haven't had a big push in a few months​ will sell copies by itself.
I love the trilogy, despite not being a fan of the ME3 ending. I have been there since day one in 2007.
ME3 sold like 6 million right? That's not impossible to pass at all tbh for MEA
Mechanized
Member
Huh. I bought the game based on my time with EA Access. The only problems I have with the game are the mostly bad facial animations and some jerkiness that goes along with it. Combat, graphics, exploration, the dialogue
, world, all seems great. Whether that holds up for 40+ hours is another thing altogether but I'm having fun, don't really care what reviewers think.
I only really ever liked ME1, ME2 didn't grab me and I skipped 3.
(with like two exceptions so far; "My face is tired" and the indignant/out of place "I'm the pathfinder." following a certain conversation)
I only really ever liked ME1, ME2 didn't grab me and I skipped 3.
hydrophilic attack
Member
lol, a better comparison would have been a game comfortably outselling ninja gaiden, only for its sequel to struggle with outselling ninja gaiden 2
is selling roughly the same as ghost recon now a good target for the newest mass effect to aim for?
talk about lowered expectations, you guys are pretty much proving my point
SirPinkyNose
Member
OP said EA access only includes mediocre games, EA access includes Torchlight 2. Now I hate OP til forever.
Ivory Samoan
Member
First post pretty much nailed it.
This could still sell like hot cakes, and there are more >80 reviews than <70...it's a very divisive game. Destiny ended up on 77 MC and sold a bunch, this could pull a similar act: especially since the MP is super fun.
You can actually save money by subscribing to ea access.
Ea access costs $5, with the 10% discount you save $7 on mass effect. So overall you saved $2 and you got to play it early.
Pretty much. This game is far from a 'dud' it does a lot of things well.
Andromedas primary flaw is the technical issues weighing it down, and in some cases the poor writing.
The game succeeds in many ways too many go out of their way to ignore like the combat systems, multiplayer, the incredible environments.
The negative response will surely affect the legs of Ghost Recon and Andromeda, just like it did with Suicide Squad or BvS. These movies still made plenty of money as they were frontloaded. I wouldn't be surprised if ME end up #1 on the next NPD. Just like it wouldn't be a shock if it's Horizon / Ghost Recon who sell plenty of extra copies from people who were awaiting ME and decided to wait for a discount (and patches lol).
SimpleCRIPPLE
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Just one example. but I changed from a Day 1 buy to just Gamefly'ng it because of the trial.
I still want to progress, but i'm not confident i'll finish it based on what I did get to play. Unless the story picks up and they introduce some better characters I don't know if i'll make it through.
Based on longer previews, i'm not confident. A shame, because the Mass Effect series was one of my high points from last gen.
I still want to progress, but i'm not confident i'll finish it based on what I did get to play. Unless the story picks up and they introduce some better characters I don't know if i'll make it through.
Based on longer previews, i'm not confident. A shame, because the Mass Effect series was one of my high points from last gen.
I tell you what. The meme machine and gifs had me horrified, but then I took the time to watch more footage and listened to the positive impressions. Of course now I am playing it and am completely happy with it so far. As you said, BioWare games have always had ham and cheese, with a side of jank, but I always get sucked in and love them anyway. Same deal here.
Underappreciated post.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
EA Access is anti-consumer?
It gives you discounts on all EA games/DLC, when EA games go on sale outside of EA Access; it stacks, it lets you play a ton of their games and lets you make informed purchase decisions by giving you a sizeable chunk of the game to play (10hours) for every single new game.
It's literally the most pro-consumer effort by any publisher on any platform IMO. I've probably said it before but I have saved a lot of money so far, both in discounts, by having access to a game I might have purchased and by avoiding games I was better informed about.
It gives you discounts on all EA games/DLC, when EA games go on sale outside of EA Access; it stacks, it lets you play a ton of their games and lets you make informed purchase decisions by giving you a sizeable chunk of the game to play (10hours) for every single new game.
It's literally the most pro-consumer effort by any publisher on any platform IMO. I've probably said it before but I have saved a lot of money so far, both in discounts, by having access to a game I might have purchased and by avoiding games I was better informed about.
Doesn't really work. As I said Ghost Recon today is evidently much bigger than it used to be. On the other hand, did Ninja Gaiden 2 actually manage to outsell the original? Hell did Sigma 2 manage to outsell Sigma?
Ghost Recon is the current top selling game for the year in the UK so far... it's not comparable at all the what it used to be (especially with it no longer being Rainbow Six's little brother).
hydrophilic attack
Member
according to the google search i did before making the post, yes
(and, no, not chartzzzz)
Ok fair enough. But dramatically enough to make it a more suitable comparison?
hydrophilic attack
Member
no
a good analogy would be somewhere in between our two examples
probably closer to my example on an absolute scale, but closer to yours on a logarithmic scale
jonscrambler
Member
"even" ghost recon when ghost recon is a top selling game of the year?
speaking of anti-consumer and EA Access, the one platform that doesn't allow consumers that want to subscribe to EA Access on the platform, now that's anti-consumer
speaking of anti-consumer and EA Access, the one platform that doesn't allow consumers that want to subscribe to EA Access on the platform, now that's anti-consumer
ROUGE_BLOCK
Member
How is this not a good thing that the trial turned people off from the game though? In that sense it gives a more objective view because not every game released under the EA banner is going to shine in the sun, so if what amounts to a 10 hour rental shows the game in an unfavourable light and it's not for you, you have the knowledge with minimal financial risk.
$5 monthky towards a beefy trial plus all the other games in the vault that may want to try seems like a way better investment than spending $60 and finding that the game is lacking.
$5 monthky towards a beefy trial plus all the other games in the vault that may want to try seems like a way better investment than spending $60 and finding that the game is lacking.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
It's past that. Number 11, 17, and 18 for March. This means nothing though as it's impossible to extrapolate any numbers for overall worldwide sales.
IMO, this will still sell 5-6 million copies minimum LTD. it next game will tank ala Watchdogs.
Don't confuse his argument with facts... 😁
GankzyMcfly
Member
lol do you not even know what games are in the ea access vault? Or are your standards so high that if a game does not go down in history as industry changing, its ultimately mediocre?
PVZ 1 and 2 = reviewed in the 80s
Dragon Age Inquisition = Game of the year
Battlefield 4 = reviewd in the 80s
Deadspace = reviewed in the 80s
Skate3 = reviewed in the 80s
Guess The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask is a mediocre game as well, cuz that also reviewed in the 80s if im not mistaken
hydrophilic attack
Member
has nothing to do with review scores
i'm not really interested in shooters, car games and sports
unravel, dead space and possibly skate are the only games i would consider to be worthy of my time, considering my personal tastes
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
A hahahaha.
Well it's a good thing EA is not designing their services around you then. They would have been out of business decades ago.
GankzyMcfly
Member
Your right, games that dont line up with your "personal taste" are mediocre. Ive never really enjoyed bloodborne or souls style games so i guess the reason is because those are mediocre games as well....see how stupid that sounds..