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[Shadowstar39]

There are already plenty of great app store (ios) games you can play on your Mac, and the hardware (existing and new) is sexy AF. Playing more contemporary games on your mac would be a bonus!

Why buy a computer you can't buy the majority of software for. I can see the case for a specialized business machine. Say something doing one task only and x pc is better for that. Not for general purpose computing.
To me having something i couldn't play games or use software on would drive me nuts, and make me regret my purchase, especially as they are insanely expensive.

I have a mac mini 2014(or 2011, forget which it has dual core intel chip) model that a friend gave me as incentive to learn ios coding, and it irked me to no end that i needed a mac to make programs for a iphone. I didn't need a chrombook to code and compile for an android phone, it could all be done in windows. The whole system seemed so weird to me. I then learned that most software wouldn't work as the newer os updates wouldn't take on the hardware. Meaning software wouldn't run anymore. I had similar issues with a ipad mini which became obsolete in 1 year as apps no longer worked after ios updates (don't even get me started about the storage space fiasco on that pos).

Bottom line - Apple is a greedy company, and is anti choice/freedom. It hasn't been about choice and freedom since Wozniak left (apple 2 was last line of pcs with full on expansion slots, and easy access, as he was all into tinkering) MAC is all about closed systems for authoritarian trend following elitists. Who else pays 2k+ for a system that does a fraction of what a pc does, doesn't allow personal repair and goes obsolete in 2 years due to updates which make the older programs not work.

As for sexy, you can get a metal asus convertable laptop that looks every bit as "sexy" and will use windows/linux and run everything without issue.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

As for sexy, you can get a metal asus convertable laptop that looks every bit as "sexy" and will use windows/linux and run everything without issue.

Sexy on a hardware engineering level, they have been knocking the tech side of their business out of the park. Their ecosystem isn't for everyone but the users that are immersed in that ecosystem love it, and they keep building those walls higher and higher.

I agree with you regarding their software development process. Their requirements for developing software is defiantly a walled garden and makes creating multiplatform software offerings a huge pain.

Here we dev in the windows environment and then use a mac to create our iOS/Mac OS specific builds after the brunt of the work is completed in windows.

 

[Davevil]

Who cares? HW overpriced useless for 90% of people

 

[Dream-Knife]

Linux has way more issues than gaming support.
in order to get more gaming support (including working solutions for anticheat measures that don't insta-ban you as soon as you try playing), Linux fist has to become an actually good OS that people actually wanna use.

and by People I mean normal people and not some nerdy guys that get an erection as soon as they see a command line window.

the splintered nature of Linux with its different Distros and desktop environments that can be mixed and matched, but also all have at least some significant downsides compared to others, while also sometimes not being 100% cross compatible with eachother in terms of software... that is just the biggest issue Linux has.

and because elitism is rampant in the Linux sphere, this splintered landscape will remain. they will never come together to work on a singular ultimate version of Linux with no significant issues for the average user and with extremely high compatibility and easy usability.

imo as long as you have to even once open a command line to do anything on your PC, that a normal user can do easily with simple mouse clicks on a Windows PC, as long as that's the case Linux will remain the niche among niches it is, and honestly IMO that's also a sign of a bad OS in general. we're not living in the 80s anymore... GUIs became the norm for a reason.

and because of all this, Linux will also always remain an afterthought for game devs, as it's even less market share than OSX you're getting with a Linux native version, so why bother?

Tell me you haven't used linux without telling me you haven't used linux. Post reads like BryanK when talking about PCs.

Most distros have their own stores and updates. My tech illiterate mother is using elementary OS with no problems coming from Windows 10.

The only issue linux has right now is support, but thanks to the steam deck that is changing.

 

[Crayon]

Linux has way more issues than gaming support.
in order to get more gaming support (including working solutions for anticheat measures that don't insta-ban you as soon as you try playing), Linux fist has to become an actually good OS that people actually wanna use.

and by People I mean normal people and not some nerdy guys that get an erection as soon as they see a command line window.

the splintered nature of Linux with its different Distros and desktop environments that can be mixed and matched, but also all have at least some significant downsides compared to others, while also sometimes not being 100% cross compatible with eachother in terms of software... that is just the biggest issue Linux has.

and because elitism is rampant in the Linux sphere, this splintered landscape will remain. they will never come together to work on a singular ultimate version of Linux with no significant issues for the average user and with extremely high compatibility and easy usability.

imo as long as you have to even once open a command line to do anything on your PC, that a normal user can do easily with simple mouse clicks on a Windows PC, as long as that's the case Linux will remain the niche among niches it is, and honestly IMO that's also a sign of a bad OS in general. we're not living in the 80s anymore... GUIs became the norm for a reason.

and because of all this, Linux will also always remain an afterthought for game devs, as it's even less market share than OSX you're getting with a Linux native version, so why bother?

Sheeep covered this well, but I'll add that if you want to know why more people don't use linux, it's because it doesn't come installed on the machine they buy. I've set many people up with mint to revive their old computers and somehow they manage to find the start button in the lower left corner and open chrome. Look at steamdeck: a computer that ships with linux standard and it's been very well received. Probably wouldn't be so well received if you had to dive into the command line all day. What exactly would you have to do that for, anyhow? Aside saving time over poking around with a mouse?

You want to talk about elitest... my friend said the funniest shit. He's a developer and basically will only work on macs. He uses the command line for everything. When I mentioned that "it's better in a lot of ways", he went on this uncharacteristic tirade about it ending with the line "A MOUSE IS LIKE CUTTING OFF YOUR HAND BECAUSE A STUMP IS JUST SIMPLER!!" I was fucking dying that that shit was so funny. I remember we were in the middle of a road trip but I can't remember where.

 

[Demigod Mac]

As usual threads like these descend into pointless platform warring.
The incorrect assumption many make is that someone would buy a Mac primarily for gaming.

But for someone who prefers macOS for productivity and doesn't want to sink an additional hundreds/thousands into a console or a gaming PC or doesn't have the space for one, this is a good solution.
Think of for example, a college student whose parents got him a Macbook or a photographer who likes to do a bit of gaming on the side.
Now they can boot up a session Resident Evil Village after work. Cheers, gamers.