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[Nicodimas]

Well After this episode I watching the Suns/Spurs Matchup!

Anyhow great start...my mind is reeling from this episode about where they are going with it.

Jericho/Wire/lost

Best Tv shows on..TV

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

i'd love to see another wire crossover with mcnulty and bunk investigating that funeral parlor to attempt to figure out who's in there.

*looks at newspaper clipping*
"fuck."

*measures casket*
"fuck."

*ties red ribbon around Ethan Rom's wrist*

 

[zurra]

I still think the six are Jack, Kate, Hurley,

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Claire, Aaron, and Ben. Ben being the one in the casket.

why would

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Ben be included? he had nothing to do with Oceanic.... no one would even know who he is anymore.

 

[Raistlin]

They ALWAYS have a recap for the first hour. This is nothing new.

While this is true, I don't recall them advertising it as a 'Lost Two-Hour Premiere' in those instances.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

While this is true, I don't recall them advertising it as a 'Lost Two-Hour Premiere' in those instances.

"Two-Hour Premiere Event"

They do it with the finales too.

"The three hour Lost finale event starts at eight."

 

[Raistlin]

My friend gave me the best t-shirt on the planet in his comic. Just had to share.

:lol :lol :lol Holy shit ... I might actually make that!!!

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

:lol :lol :lol Holy shit ... I might actually make that!!!

He'll be happy to see it catch on.

 

[Chris R]

Aw man I want those. I love puzzles and I love Lost.

Are they awesome?

Yes they are VERY cool. Somewhat hard, but man they pack a shit load of references into the puzzles :lol

 

[Eric WK]

The man who visited Hurley said his name is Matthew Abbadon. That's an anagram of "What Bad Boatmen."

 

[Coop]

Any particular reason for thinking

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Claire and Aaron

made it off? I thought Michael and Walt may have made it back safely when they sailed out of season 2 and now they're part of the six.

they probably change their name or maybe they didnt get off the island. *insert dramatic music*

 

[Baron Aloha]

This spoiler reveals who the Oceanic 6 are:

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Oceanic 6 = Jack, Kate, Sayid, Hurley, Sun, and Jin.

*removed 2nd spoiler since people were upset by it*

If someone wants to create a spoiler thread I'd be for that.

 

[LJ11]

Baron, I want to highlight all of that. Why tempt us? Damn you to hell. j/k

 

[Coop]

Somebody really needs to make a Lost spoiler thread. All these spoilers and posters bragging about seeing spoilers makes me sick.

 

[Raistlin]

It's raining, that means the security monster is coming. btw wtf happened to the black cloud, it's like the abandoned it.

This is J.J. Abrams we're talking about.

 

[MiamiWesker]

The man who visited Hurley said his name is Matthew Abbadon. That's an anagram of "What Bad Boatmen."

Rambo?

Awesome premier, this show is better than ever. I am captivated by the flashfowards, I almost want to see them as much as the island stuff. Still depressing to see the characters all messed up, and I wonder if this furture is set in stone (I guess it is, I assume the ending will be in the future).

Hurley was awesome in the episode, his speech to Jack was great but then you find out it was a bad choice, I had just finished applauding Hurley for sticking it to Jack.

The Jacob stuff has me the most interested. Yes Jacob's profile does look a lot like who you guys say it looks like but I don't think thats him. The eye in the cabin was Locke right?

What am I supposed to find on this website they gave during that oceanic commercial?

 

[Eric WK]

Somebody really needs to make a Lost spoiler thread. All these spoilers and posters bragging about seeing spoilers makes me sick.

Yeah, I don't see why anyone would even post that here. If people want to know spoilers they can easily find them on their own. And if they want to discuss them, they should be doing so somewhere other than official episode threads.

 

[quaere]

is LOST on Xbox Live Marketplace yet? Anywhere else to download it in HD? iTunes doesn't have HD yet right?

 

[Blader]

This is J.J. Abrams we're talking about.

He has virtually nothing to do with the show anymore.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

Yeah, I don't see why anyone would even post that here. If people want to know spoilers they can easily find them on their own. And if they want to discuss them, they should be doing so somewhere other than official episode threads.

Agreed. We need an official Lost spoiler thread. I'd like to know that the only thing I'll come across in official episode threads is recaps, reviews, and discussion.

Make it happen, GAF.

 

[fallengorn]

What am I supposed to find on this website they gave during that oceanic commercial?

It's just a "game" that they set up a month before the premiere. By the end of it you find out interesting background information, which they kinda spoiled during the commercial.

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The Maxwell Group, a subsidiary of Widmore, staged the discovery of fuselage of Oceanic 815

.

 

[PillowKnight]

The Lost "nobody talks to anybody else" curse strikes again! Nice way to stay up for Locke, all you jerks who knew about what Charlie had said, as Jack tried to shoot him.

Oh cmon now. Would you stand up for the guy who A) blew up the submarine, B) Killed someone who could potentially rescue you C) Betrayed you to the people who have constantly harrassed/harmed your friends. Charlie's "Not Penny's boat" isn't exactly damning evidence against the "rescue party" either way.

Overall great episode, it felt way too short though.

 

[MiamiWesker]

It's just a "game" that they set up a month before the premiere. By the end of it you find out interesting background information, which they kinda spoiled during the commercial.

Spoiler

The Maxwell Group, a subsidiary of Widmore, staged the discovery of fuselage of Oceanic 815

.

So they explain that online in a game, they better address it on the show.

 

[Clipjoint]

Was I the only one who noticed something behind the backboard watching Jack and Hurley? It could be a production mistake, but it looked a little too blatant. I rewound a few times and there's definitely something black moving behind it in the wide shot.

 

[KGKK]

Btw, which side this Juliet choose? I must have missed it.

 

[Eric WK]

Btw, which side this Juliet choose? I must have missed it.

Jack's.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

This is J.J. Abrams we're talking about.

No it isn't.

 

[Raistlin]

No it isn't.

He has virtually nothing to do with the show anymore.

That doesn't necessarily matter. He wasn't around for the end of Alias either. The problem with that show was that he dropped so many glimpses into the universe's mythology, that the writers were backed into a corner.

In the situation, writers have one of two things happen. Either due to time, or because of the direction they move the show in, they simply can't pick up the mess that was left behind ... or they pull a Buffy, and attempt to resolve everything ... quickly ... and crappily


I hope that doesn't happen here. History says we'll either get rushed, forced answers ... or they'll simply go by the old 'throw a bunch of darts at the wall and see what sticks' mentality (ie. just forget it ever happened). The black fog may become the T3 of Lost.

 

[Coop]

I was reading lostpedia when I saw this

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:CShepardinjacobshouse.jpg

Very interesting...

 

[MiamiWesker]

I was reading lostpedia when I saw this

http://www.lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:CShepardinjacobshouse.jpg

Very interesting...

Well then, that answers that question, so now a million more pop up

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So the guy in the shack is Jack's dad, but that doesn't actually mean he is Jacob. I assume "Jacob" (if there even is a Jacob) was around before they landed on the island. Ben seems to have never seen Jacob and now he thinks the ghost of Jack's dad is Jacob cause thats who Locke heard. Something like that, who knows.

 

[probune]

I didn't like this episode really. It was so incredibly contrived when all the Lost cliches happened near the end, where a group of people meets up with another group of people then Kate shows up, then it starts raining, then there's dramatic, emotional speeches...

And it didn't even end on an awesome note, either. Just some dude coming out of a helicopter.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

A few things:

- I really appreciated the return to the front of the plane. Quite poignant.
- I really appreciated Hurley coming into his own this week in a real way. He's gone from being the chummy comic relief to becoming a real Eddie Dean level force in the narrative. And he deserves it.

Lost is rad.

 

[ZeoVGM]

Was I the only one who noticed something behind the backboard watching Jack and Hurley? It could be a production mistake, but it looked a little too blatant. I rewound a few times and there's definitely something black moving behind it in the wide shot.

Michael made it off the island confirmed?

 

[SpeedingUptoStop]

jsut stayed up late and watched my DVR'd Lost (hot shit!). Very good episode. not as fuck awesome as I'd hope, because it's Hurley's/extremely sentimental, but there was still some fucked up shit in there to make me go ga ga over lost again. FACTIONS again! Woot woot! Bring on the War Part Deux.

 

[gray_fox224]

Just finished the premire. As always, cannot wait for the next one.

 

[Clipjoint]

Was I the only one who noticed something behind the backboard watching Jack and Hurley? It could be a production mistake, but it looked a little too blatant. I rewound a few times and there's definitely something black moving behind it in the wide shot.

This is what I was talking about:

http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2008/02/easter-egg-or-mystery-man.html

 

[Kastro]

I don't get how this show is supposed to have 3 seasons left? It doesn't feel like there's that much material left.

Oh yeah, I loved Hurley sticking it to Jack. Jack gets to be fucking hero too much. Locke FTW!

 

[Linkhero1]

Fantastic episode leaving me with more questions.

 

[ManaByte]

"I was trying to buy jerky and a soda and you were standing near the ho-hos!" :lol :lol :lol

 

[fistfulofmetal]

I don't get how this show is supposed to have 3 seasons left? It doesn't feel like there's that much material left.

Don't underestimate the ability these writers have for stretching out a story.

We won't even get the point where they could possibly get off the island until next season probably.

 

[Kastro]

Don't underestimate the ability these writers have for stretching out a story.

I guess you're right, but how much future stuff can they show without totally spoiling the "Island part". If you know everything that happens after they get off why is what happens on the island compelling anymore?

 

[unomas]

This episode was kinda meh for me after waiting so long for it and people hyping it up to be so great. Hopefully next week is better, but Jack trying to actually kill Locke was pretty cool.

 

[fistfulofmetal]

I guess you're right, but how much future stuff can they show without totally spoiling the "Island part". If you know everything that happens after they get off why is what happens on the island compelling anymore?

Because we don't know how it all went down. It isn't simply them meeting a rescue party and sailing away into the sunset.

Something a few people have been kicking around is the idea that

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When Hurley mentions that only 6 got off doesn't mean the rest are dead but rather still on the island

 

[yayaba]

Season 2 premier still takes the cake.

One of the only premiers that made me do a doubletake and wonder if I was watching the right channel. The beginning part completely screwed with my mind. Loved it.

Thought this was a decent episode. I'm just glad anything is back to watch besides American Idol.

 

[Kastro]

Something a few people have been kicking around is the idea that

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When Hurley mentions that only 6 got off doesn't mean the rest are dead but rather still on the island

Ill buy it. Charlie did say "they need you".

Charlie = representation of the Island trying to "bring them back". Hurley said the island wants them back.

 

[Madrin]

This is what I was talking about:

http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2008/02/easter-egg-or-mystery-man.html

It could be anything, or it could be nothing. That's as much as I've been able to figure out.

 

[Greatness Gone]

I didn't like this episode really. It was so incredibly contrived when all the Lost cliches happened near the end, where a group of people meets up with another group of people then Kate shows up, then it starts raining, then there's dramatic, emotional speeches...

And it didn't even end on an awesome note, either. Just some dude coming out of a helicopter.

I agree with you, actually.

Worst Lost season opener so far, best Hurley episode so far.

Also, did anyone else expect to see zombie Libby or something? That shit still hasn't been explained.

 

[Scopebob Sniperpants]

This is what I was talking about:

http://losteastereggs.blogspot.com/2008/02/easter-egg-or-mystery-man.html

Sometimes you guys scare me. Not only did two people notice a shadow in the background, someone else (unrelated) was able to take screencaps and post it as well? The episode ended 2 hours ago.

@_@

And no, I don't think that shadow was at all important. You guys are crazy.

 

[ManaByte]

I guess you're right, but how much future stuff can they show without totally spoiling the "Island part". If you know everything that happens after they get off why is what happens on the island compelling anymore?

They knew how the show would end, but they didn't know when it would end; thus they had to put a lot of filler stuff in the first two seasons to stretch out the story. Now that they know when it will end and in exactly how many episodes they can get right to the main ending without having to put a bunch of filler crap or inventing new characters from the group of the survivors (no more Nikki or Paulos).

 

[border]

Yeah, I'm a little back-and-forth on this episode. There are some good revelations, but there are some truly cringe-worthy moments. When Hurley tells Claire about Charlie, it's dinner-theatre caliber acting. When Kate shows up just-in-time to tell everyone about Naomi, it feels way too trite and convenient.

I skipped most of the thread.....has anyone mentioned this episode's biggest laugh?

"Jack, with your permission I'd like to go with Locke." :lol :lol

Spoiler for "The Beginning of the End" ONLY:

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I don't see why nearly everyone didn't go with Locke. Even if you are merely playing the odds, it seems like a far better decision. Even if the rescue team is what they are supposed to be, you know that the other survivors will help the rescue squad find you and get you off the island. If there's just a 1% chance that the rescue team are evil, you might as well go with Locke because the alternative means your death or enslavement or whatever.

 

[BenjaminBirdie]

Yeah, I'm a little back-and-forth on this episode. There are some good revelations, but there are some truly cringe-worthy moments. When Hurley tells Claire about Charlie, it's dinner-theatre caliber acting. When Kate shows up just-in-time to tell everyone about Naomi, it feels way too trite and convenient.

I skipped most of the thread.....has anyone mentioned this episode's biggest laugh?

"Jack, with your permission I'd like to go with Locke." :lol :lol

Spoiler for "The Beginning of the End" ONLY:

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I don't see why nearly everyone didn't go with Locke. Even if you are merely playing the odds, it seems like a far better decision. Even if the rescue team is what they are supposed to be, you know that the other survivors will help the rescue squad find you and get you off the island. If there's just a 1% chance that the rescue team are evil, you might as well go with Locke because the alternative means your death or enslavement or whatever.

I don't think we need to tag stuff in the actual episode, or things will get really dangerously confusing.

But, from the standpoint of someone actually on the Island, where the sky goes purple and people get blown up and kidnapped and beaten up by smoke, I think it's fair to imagine that, yeah, this might be your one and only shot to get rescued, and the choice is rather significant.

The more that I think about the episode, the more impressed I am with it.

The development of Hurley, as said, was exceptional, as was the full circle to the Pilot.

But philosophically, the fact that Locke's gun was never loaded and that Jack fired it was really a pivotal moment in the entire series. More than any other narrative move, that was the gamechanger. Jack was ready, as he had been several times if you recall, to kill Locke over very little aside from his own obsession with his own sense of justice, no matter how inapplicable it might be in this environment.

Definitely one of my favorite episodes of the show, simply because it raised the stakes in so many ways for Jack, Hurley, and Locke.

And, also, Lance Reddick has found the absolutely most perfect home, post-Wire. Even with just 90 seconds of material, he was fantastic.

And, from a technical standpoint, also one of Lost's best episodes. Jacob's house switcheroo and Hurley's fishbowl vision in the interrogation room were both amazing set pieces. One of the few things that I never liked about the beginning of Season 3 was that it opened in such a bland setting. The Hatch was such a brilliant idea, and so well conceived and executed, that it made the entire Season devoted to it that much more interesting. This premiere really just expanded that in all directions. Bringing the Island weirdness onto the mainland without missing a beat and escalating the Island scenarios significantly. The shot with Kate and Jack just sitting against the wreckage will definitely go down as one of my favorites in the show.

Wow, Lost-Media sure moves fast....