That was the other thing that bothered me -- the whole bit with Hurley and Jacob's Hut felt too much like pointless fanservice. "Ohhhh you guys thought this spooky old house was so cool last season, so here's more of it for no particular reason!" In some ways it just seems like they are piling on all this supernatural stuff without any specific goal or purpose.
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LOST 04.01: "The Beginning Of The End"
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BenjaminBirdie
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border said:
I think it's pretty significant, considering we saw evidence of two people who were supposed to be dead physically interacting with the environment. Jack's Dad audibly rocking the chair in the cabin and Charlie slapping Hurley and being visible to his fellow patient.
BenjaminBirdie
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border said:
The first pan up you can pretty clearly see his white sneaks from 01.04 and his profile and, well, it's pretty clear once you look for it.
BenjaminBirdie
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Also, I don't know why it didn't connect at first but Cedric Daniels clearly wanted to basically abduct Hurley and keep him in some compound for imprisoned observation.
fistfulofmetal
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BenjaminBirdie
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golem said:
:O
Wow. Good call.
Cool, thanks for the clearer screencap of Jack's dad. Interesting, but at this point I feel like they are reaching Twin Peaks levels of self-indulgent weirdness. Both shows featured a long-dead character just lounging in an otherworldly space, but I don't think LindelCuse really has what it takes to pull off what Lynch did. To say it's a ripoff would be too trolly and unfair, but it certainly feels inspired by TP to say the least.
fistfulofmetal
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ManaByte said:
Well... that's the pronoun you'd use in reference to an island
Maybe I've just read too many posts from the classic Lost haters today, but I can kind of see where the hate for "Flashes Before Your Eyes" comes from, having seen this episode. The show feels like mostly medium-hard sci-fi, but for some reason all-of-a-sudden they add on time travel and ghostly supernatural stuff. It feels like they're reaching out for any kind of intrigue they can grasp onto, without regard for where it really takes things.
That's fine, but I guess the blending of so many multiple genres can feel kind of slight and sloppy. So now we've got a giant monster, some science fiction elements....AND a ghost story? Those genres (monster, sci-fi, ghost) tend to remain separate for a reason, and I'm not sure what there is to be gained by jumbling them all together.
Regardless though, I'm signed on for this season
Regardless though, I'm signed on for this season
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
Just started watching. Bull Randleman and Cedric Daniels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seeing the episode tonight, for a second time, proved to me it was perfect. It combined surprises, progression, and character removal flawlessly. It avoided the 'so hyped it feels stilted' factor for the people I watched it with and the only thing we could ask 'what happens next?'...
There are many wrong theories in this thread btw, and thankfully, with their help, I might be able to show restraint for future LOST episodes. Lameness lowering.
Also, here is a teaser for next week:
Next week = freighter people/crazy new power/oh fuck this is trippier than Cremaster...
There are many wrong theories in this thread btw, and thankfully, with their help, I might be able to show restraint for future LOST episodes. Lameness lowering.
Also, here is a teaser for next week:
Next week = freighter people/crazy new power/oh fuck this is trippier than Cremaster...
PetriP-TNT
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Just watched the episode and oh good god how it was awesome! Totally worth of the damn 8 month wait or something. Shivers running down my spine constantly, can't wait for next thursday!
Ah, Lost. So good to have you back.
I teared up a bit when hurley told claire that charlie is dead. Fuck the haters, I'll miss the poor guy. :'(
The episode started off much better than it ended, but this is only the first one. Things are just getting started. Too bad there are only 7 episodes left. Freaking strike. >_<
I teared up a bit when hurley told claire that charlie is dead. Fuck the haters, I'll miss the poor guy. :'(
The episode started off much better than it ended, but this is only the first one. Things are just getting started. Too bad there are only 7 episodes left. Freaking strike. >_<
Keyser Soze
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Just got done watching the episode (I'm in euroland). The Charlie swimming in the Glass thing freaked me out the most. I am surprised it was not talked about more on here
Lakitu said:
Ok, that's what I thought. So Jack changes his mind about wanting to go back. Maybe Hurley made it back to the island at some point after the flash forward in last night's episode then. Why else would Jack call Kate about returning to the island in last season's finale? Why not call Hurley? They could work together with Charlie to get back to the island.
Unless Hurley is dead...
Spotless Mind
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Just watched it. Totally meh season premiere. Some good moments as usual, but brought down by Lost's usual sappy tendencies and penchant for drawing things out that don't need to be. Also, not nearly enough Juliet!
I loved Hurley's trek through the jungle. Pretty creepy stuff. Especially, when he peered in on Jacobs chair. I also really like the intrigue surrounding the boat people, even if it is basically another repeat of the others. Far more interesting to me than button pushing, that's for sure.
Hurleys flashforwards were about as interesting as his flashbacks - not very. The opening didn't have a patch on season 2's. No WTF reaction elicited here, though i look forward to discovering who the oceanic 6 are. There are no words to express how much i hate that we are now flashbacking to the characters before the flashforward in Through The Looking Glass. Now we have to sit through backstory leading to Jack's "We have to go back!" scene? Holy fuck. I bet it will take a season to even reach that point. Geez icarus-daedalus, you were totally right. We are gonna have to sit through MORE of Jack's marriage and daddy issues. D=
People were ripping on Sylars escape in the Heroes season 1 finale like it was the worst thing ever. Why not in this thread about Naomi escaping in a similar fashion, while also having enough time to leave fake blood trails and get far enough away, while mortally wounded, for night to set in? That was pretty effing stupid writing and she happens to not have super powers...
Was Hurley's slo mo fat run supposed to be a parody scene? It was hysterical to me on a "wow, this is so bad" level. It was obviously meant to contrast his happiness with the impending news of Charlie's death and his state in the flashforwards, but man was the execution bad. Horrible directing job. Same for the various 'tender' character interactions. Sun, Rose and Claire had me cringing like no tomorrow. Does anyone else hate the harpy Rose almost as much as i do? God, she is almost as irritating as Jack and Kate. Claire telling Hurley of Charlie's death, and the ultra dramatic and cloying speech were pretty hilarious as well. Giacchino has seriously gotta lay off the lame piano notes already.
I loved Hurley's trek through the jungle. Pretty creepy stuff. Especially, when he peered in on Jacobs chair. I also really like the intrigue surrounding the boat people, even if it is basically another repeat of the others. Far more interesting to me than button pushing, that's for sure.
Hurleys flashforwards were about as interesting as his flashbacks - not very. The opening didn't have a patch on season 2's. No WTF reaction elicited here, though i look forward to discovering who the oceanic 6 are. There are no words to express how much i hate that we are now flashbacking to the characters before the flashforward in Through The Looking Glass. Now we have to sit through backstory leading to Jack's "We have to go back!" scene? Holy fuck. I bet it will take a season to even reach that point. Geez icarus-daedalus, you were totally right. We are gonna have to sit through MORE of Jack's marriage and daddy issues. D=
People were ripping on Sylars escape in the Heroes season 1 finale like it was the worst thing ever. Why not in this thread about Naomi escaping in a similar fashion, while also having enough time to leave fake blood trails and get far enough away, while mortally wounded, for night to set in? That was pretty effing stupid writing and she happens to not have super powers...
Was Hurley's slo mo fat run supposed to be a parody scene? It was hysterical to me on a "wow, this is so bad" level. It was obviously meant to contrast his happiness with the impending news of Charlie's death and his state in the flashforwards, but man was the execution bad. Horrible directing job. Same for the various 'tender' character interactions. Sun, Rose and Claire had me cringing like no tomorrow. Does anyone else hate the harpy Rose almost as much as i do? God, she is almost as irritating as Jack and Kate. Claire telling Hurley of Charlie's death, and the ultra dramatic and cloying speech were pretty hilarious as well. Giacchino has seriously gotta lay off the lame piano notes already.
Keyser Soze
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If we are talking about the coffin again then it is obliviously Vincent that is in it.
- It's small, but Vincent would fit in it
- No one came, cause no one cares about Vincent
- Jack was asked was he "friend or family" and he said "neither"
- Kate asks "Why would I go to the funeral?" as she thinks dead dogs don't warrant having funerals.
Prefect sense!!
- It's small, but Vincent would fit in it
- No one came, cause no one cares about Vincent
- Jack was asked was he "friend or family" and he said "neither"
- Kate asks "Why would I go to the funeral?" as she thinks dead dogs don't warrant having funerals.
Prefect sense!!
Tchu-Espresso
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I thought it was a satisfactory opener to the season, although i didnt really know how they were going to kick start it before hand, seeing as the direction of the show is shifting.
I missed how this was the first seasn that didnt open with the same close-up eyeball shot of every other season.
I missed how this was the first seasn that didnt open with the same close-up eyeball shot of every other season.
teruterubozu
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It was a decent episode, nothing terrible or great.
Some intriguing parts, some sappy parts and more questions.
I still expect a few crappy episodes this season where nothing happens at all (except maybe the last few seconds), or it won't be Lost.
Some intriguing parts, some sappy parts and more questions.
I still expect a few crappy episodes this season where nothing happens at all (except maybe the last few seconds), or it won't be Lost.
Keyser Soze
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What's GAF opinion on the cabin:
Was it a vision?
If so why is Hurley seeing visions now?
Why did Hurley see Jack's dad, as he does not even know who he is?
Was there two people in there, as it seems the second eye that popped up before Hurley ran looked different?
Does the way he concentrated to make the cabin disappear have any connection with making Charlie disappear as well?
Also, on a different note:
Does the public think that only the Oceanic 6 survived and everyone else on the Island is dead?
What are the chance of everyone else been dead? Or dying between the time the 'Oceanic 6' left and the time that flashfoward took place?
Is that what Jack does not want Hurley to tell and the end of the episode?
Is that what Abbadon wanted to know when he started shouting at Hurley?
Was it a vision?
If so why is Hurley seeing visions now?
Why did Hurley see Jack's dad, as he does not even know who he is?
Was there two people in there, as it seems the second eye that popped up before Hurley ran looked different?
Does the way he concentrated to make the cabin disappear have any connection with making Charlie disappear as well?
Also, on a different note:
Does the public think that only the Oceanic 6 survived and everyone else on the Island is dead?
What are the chance of everyone else been dead? Or dying between the time the 'Oceanic 6' left and the time that flashfoward took place?
Is that what Jack does not want Hurley to tell and the end of the episode?
Is that what Abbadon wanted to know when he started shouting at Hurley?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Down on your knees, you'll be left behind
This is the beginning
Watch what you think, they can read your mind
This is the beginning
I got my mark, see it in my eyes
This is the beginning
My reflection I don't recognize
This is the beginning
We think we climb so high
All up the backs we've condemned
We face our consequence
This is the beginning of the end
You wait your turn, you'll be last in line
This is the beginning
Get out the way, 'cause I'm getting mine
This is the beginning
God helps the ones that can help themselves
This is the beginning
May be too late as far as I can tell
This is the beginning
We think we've come so far
On all our lies we depend
We face our consequence
This is the beginning of the end
This is the beginning
Watch what you think, they can read your mind
This is the beginning
I got my mark, see it in my eyes
This is the beginning
My reflection I don't recognize
This is the beginning
We think we climb so high
All up the backs we've condemned
We face our consequence
This is the beginning of the end
You wait your turn, you'll be last in line
This is the beginning
Get out the way, 'cause I'm getting mine
This is the beginning
God helps the ones that can help themselves
This is the beginning
May be too late as far as I can tell
This is the beginning
We think we've come so far
On all our lies we depend
We face our consequence
This is the beginning of the end
teruterubozu
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StoOgE said:
I'm afraid the DUI killed that plotline. It's a shame too, since that was one of the more intriguing mysteries.
BenjaminBirdie
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At this point I'm just enjoying watching Spoilers PWNing all these other theories even though I don't know what the spoilers are or what they refer to.
fallengorn
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I think it's safe to say that there are more survivors than the Oceanic 6 (as hinted by Abbadon), but I don't think that everyone's going to survive what happens between now and the future. The Oceanic 6 are probably just covering up the fact that there are more survivors (either they're still on the Island or they went underground) and the fact that the Island exists.Keyser Soze said:
Eel O'Brian
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Something bothers me:
Hurley was talking to Bernard about being free of his money, because once he's declared dead it will be taken away. In the flash forward, he's clearly not rich anymore.
Now, I may be wrong, but I thought that a missing person is only declared legally dead after seven years - they've only been on the island a little over three months.
Barring him giving it away, wouldn't Hurley still have all his money?
Hurley was talking to Bernard about being free of his money, because once he's declared dead it will be taken away. In the flash forward, he's clearly not rich anymore.
Now, I may be wrong, but I thought that a missing person is only declared legally dead after seven years - they've only been on the island a little over three months.
Barring him giving it away, wouldn't Hurley still have all his money?
Eel O'Brian
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The Naomi thing is easily explained. Remember, the island heals you. Yes, she was mortally wounded, but perhaps the island's "power" slowed down her death enough for her to make it as far as she did.
Locke was showing almost no effects from his gunshot wound in this episode.
Locke was showing almost no effects from his gunshot wound in this episode.
Eel O'Brian said:
well, he might have some money from being one of the Oceanic Six, since they're apparently pretty famous. and it is a TV show, so real life missing person law might not apply...
i wonder if Kate is included in the six. i was thinking she might have hid from the public since she was on the running, meaning seven actually made it back.
jamesinclair
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Kastro said:
They dont BELIEVE
As for Jacobs house. The screen shows the rocking chair man is
Jacks Dad
The Other who doesnt age, forgot his name
mightynine
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Why can't the eye in the window be
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