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LTTP: Breaking Bad: Remember My Annoying Wife.
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They were all emo. No one has ever felt as hard or as long as the characters on this show. One of my tv pet peeves has become characters staring out into space for extended periods of time. This is why I hate Jon Snow. And then BB goes on an releases an extra scene with Pinkman staring out into space while a stripper gyrates in front of him.
Jesse was such a big sack of shit and waste of space.
I wish they had killed him off in the first season like they intended. They could have at least killed him off at the end. At least we can rest assured he eventually died in that crack shack after escaping.
That's not who he is. He's a giant sack of shit and he had no money left IIRC. And no way the grandmother would let him anywhere near Brock.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I am literally incapable of accurately comprehending the notion that Walt ever ever EVER EVER EVER owned his faults until the very final episode.
I like --
I can't even --
You mean Bmineral?
In my book he got the right closure. After an entire season of characters trying to manipulate him and him just grieving over his mistakes, he's "free". He breaks through the fence and no longer has to worry about the shitty business he got himself into.
And unlike Walt, she didn't let those faults completely consume her.
Besides,
Walt didn't own up to his real faults until the very last moment, which is one of the reasons why that last episode was so good.
Anton Sugar
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Yeah, Walt NOT owning his faults was one of the single defining characteristics of his character throughout the entire series.
Also, uuuuuh, are we forgetting Skyler's "I am a coward" scene? Talk about being a real human being.
Literally lol.
Anyway, the police are still after him, no? After the whole throwing money around the neighbourhood shenanigans
Flying Toaster
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I hated her as a character for the longest time... nagging wife, horrible person that was a killjoy to Walts new life.
But honestly, she was the voice of reason and the moral light in the show. How many of you would truly act ok with knowing your significant other was making meth and killing people?
But honestly, she was the voice of reason and the moral light in the show. How many of you would truly act ok with knowing your significant other was making meth and killing people?
Karsticles
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Skyler is an excellent character in the show. The fact that so many people hate her (myself included) is a demonstration of how effective her presence is. I would like to think that people can see the value in having an unlikeable character in the show. I liked the FFXIII cast for the same reason.
The Smoking Bun
Banned
Skyler's problem was that she kept bringing guys out of the power fantasy of being Walt and making something out of their pathetic selves no matter how horrible a thing it was. It's that whole caveman syndrome where physical power was the rule of the day
Conversely, Skyler was rather paranoid and over-protective without a shred of humor or joy in her. A control freak for whom everything had to go as she intends or plans. She treats Marie like dirt as opposed to understanding her problems or position. Skyler treated Walt like another baby of hers before he went full on psycho evil.
I have lived under the threat of death for a year now. And because of that, I have made choices. Listen to me. I alone should suffer the consequences of those choices, no one else. And those consequences, theyre coming. No more prolonging the inevitable.
-Walter White, Season 4.
I don't like Skyler because she doesnt really do anything to deal with the problems at hand and better her own situation. She pretend she has control but then gives it all up so easily. She kicks walt out but doesn't do shit when he comes back. She cant even lie to the cops. She doesnt skip town when she has the chance. There is a lot she could do to get away. She already hates walt. Why stay?
She also tries to get involved, totally implicating herself in the process. She doesnt back down, insists on the car wash, then becomes afraid of the drug world after Ted's accident. What did she think, that no one dies or gets hurt cooking drugs? She was a good character when she was the moral compass, but she was awful in later seasons. I think the people calling her a bitch are idiots, but she is a lousy character for other reasons.
Carmela Soprano. Now there's a good moral compass and a person who gets shit done.
She also tries to get involved, totally implicating herself in the process. She doesnt back down, insists on the car wash, then becomes afraid of the drug world after Ted's accident. What did she think, that no one dies or gets hurt cooking drugs? She was a good character when she was the moral compass, but she was awful in later seasons. I think the people calling her a bitch are idiots, but she is a lousy character for other reasons.
Carmela Soprano. Now there's a good moral compass and a person who gets shit done.
WAAAAAAT.
BUT SHE"S SO CATHLIK! OH MY GAAAWD
Yeah, that's reallywrong for me to say, but I feel like she deals with her inner conflicts and family a lot better.
Intheflorsh
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Ha ha, wow.
-Pyromaniac-
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I don't know a single person male or female who has watched this show and Skyler didn't get on their nerves in the first few seasons lol.
I've said it in the BB thread but even my mom felt the same. All the women in my workplace thought so too.
I've said it in the BB thread but even my mom felt the same. All the women in my workplace thought so too.
^^^lol that's ridiculous.
My gf did not like skyler. It was annoying as hell. At first it was cool because you didn't like her because she was a naggy mom and that worked. You're supposed to get annoyed by your mom. After the first 2 season though I would just get so annoyed by everything she said and did that my eyes would roll so far back into my head that I fell over on multiple occasions, once having to go to the hospital to have it fixed so I could watch the rest of an episode.
My gf did not like skyler. It was annoying as hell. At first it was cool because you didn't like her because she was a naggy mom and that worked. You're supposed to get annoyed by your mom. After the first 2 season though I would just get so annoyed by everything she said and did that my eyes would roll so far back into my head that I fell over on multiple occasions, once having to go to the hospital to have it fixed so I could watch the rest of an episode.
Dion Blaster
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How many "greatest scenes in the show" does this show have?
You're reaching a little with some of those, but you can argue for some blood being on Jesse's hands as well for everyone you listed.
Dion Blaster
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How is Jesse responsible for the 2nd person on that list? I'm a bit fuzzy tbh but I remember that being all Walt.
Vampirolol
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Skyler is both darker and stronger than Walt.
You're right, Jesse had nothing to do with #2.
I can add Jane, Combo, and yes even Gale.
Yup. Jesse destroyed a lot of lives too. But he'd slink slowly down into corners and cry about it so people forgive his scumbaggery.
That's dramatic bloviation that completely discounts the default danger he puts everyone in his life in just by being a meth cook. Look at that "I, I, I"- no mention of anyone else. That's why he's a douche! He had no concept of what he was actually involved in...a nerdy science teacher who got by on luck, but had enough successes on his own to fool himself into thinking he had control. And if you actually keep up with cartel type stories, the tension in the show regarding his family's safety was heightened pretty much from the start.
PSYGN
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Skyler just needed an escape from all of Walt's bullshit (rejecting treatment, money, mysterious second cell phone, not returning home or returning late; stories that don't add up) and made the "wrong" decision and fucked Ted. She realizes it didn't do anything for her and put a stop to it; at least she owned up to it.
Skyler behaved rationally. Boohoo, Walt has cancer. Look beyond that.
Skyler behaved rationally. Boohoo, Walt has cancer. Look beyond that.
Dark Octave
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Same. By the end of it I wanted him dead. He was acting way to bitch to stay alive. EVERYTHING that happened was his fault at the end. Sure Hank was on to Walt but he couldn't prove anything and never would have been able to with Jesse acting all stupid.
GOD DAMMIT!!
PSYGN
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Walt did what he wanted to and made tons of money from it, albeit illegally. He stayed true to himself while deceiving others. I guess you'll always have the crowd rooting for the villain, or at least some of his traits.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
Oh, absolutely she's complicit after a certain point. The guy you're quoting wasn't arguing that, though.
Walt and Skyler's responsibility for their own fates is the most compelling thing about the show, even though they both consider themselves victims most of the time.
Dark Octave
Banned
You see where he was coming from and the situations he was in. He always used his smarts to get out of them, he was always fair and only a bad person when he was cornered and you can't help but root for that.
What I don't understand is Hank and his annoying wife (Marie) and Hanks annoying wife and his annoying son. It pissed me off that they would choose some law over family. I can understand Hank to some extent, being a cop but overall I feel that they all go off the deep end and overreact way too soon over things and quick to abandon each other. That's not family.
Dion Blaster
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I didn't really "like" Walt but it was really fun watching him. Idk if I was rooting for him but the character was just portrayed so well, I really felt connected to him as the series went on. I think there's a different point for everyone where they begin to see him as the true villain (or never for some people).
Dark Octave
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The only time I saw him as a villain was when he started to become greedy somewhere in the middle of the series when everyone was telling him to quit. He was trying to build the empire he lost in his youth. Once all that was over he changed back into his old self again but hardened, for the most part.
Grimm Fandango
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Meh I disagree.
The finale was okay, not great. Walt got too much of his own way in the finale. After all the shit he did, he gets his "happy ending" so to speak. It's been said in the past but I think that Walt trying and failing to kill the neo-Nazis would have been a better ending.
Poisoning a child is justified, mothafuckas.
OverBlood 3
Banned
All the female characters were pretty terrible
Skyler: Annoying
Her Sister: Thief
Jesse's woman: Junkie
That business woman:Incompetent
Was there a decent female character in the whole thing?
Skyler: Annoying
Her Sister: Thief
Jesse's woman: Junkie
who lasted 5 minutes
Was there a decent female character in the whole thing?
Agreed,
I feel like the show stopped punishing Walt at some point during Granite State, and really they should have just gone all out on it. Gilligan said that Walt's punishment should match his actions, and I never felt the show lived up to that quote. The producers talked about how cool it would be if they could get the audience to root for Walt for Granite State and Felina, and it just doesn't make any sense to me. They wanted to make Walt the main villain of the final season, then just got cold feet in the final hours?
That scene was so weird, and I haven't read much discussion on it. Walt was in a completely feeble spot, and Skyler just tells him to kill one more. I just don't get her character for a lot of the show.
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