PumpkinPie
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All the times I played it when I was young I thought the white thing was the actual living animal and the cat on his back was just a toy
he'll always be real to me.
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LTTP: Final Fantasy VII (Steam version)
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All the times I played it when I was young I thought the white thing was the actual living animal and the cat on his back was just a toy
he'll always be real to me.Winnie the Pimp
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Anyone here to confirm this? I'd really like to know before i purchase the Steam version, cos for me that will be the definitive one, as i can't get the game off PSN (game is not available in English in my EU region unfortunately)
I can confirm. FF7 on steam has been updated with PS1 music officially. I own it and I heard it with my own ears.
QuantumZebra
Member
I agree fully. FF6 is highly overrated (though 3rd on my list of best FF's behind 7 and 10).
7 is hands down GOAT.
Lol, ok that is definitely hyperbole.
KoopaTheCasual
Junior Member
Yea, it's clearly exaggeration on their part, but I don't remember this kind of vitriol back in the day. Maybe I'm just getting older and more connected to forums which have really extreme opinions.
terrisus
Member
We got our first computer with the internet the year after Final Fantasy 7 came out, and opinions were just as divisive and extreme back then too. Probably even moreso.
Also, I wasn't exaggerating
That is true. It was updated in a matter of weeks after release.
Megalosaro
Banned
I hate people who say that Cait Sith is useless and doesn't contribute anything to the party.
Storyline, he's actually one of the most important character. He serves as sort of a foil to Barret.
If I had to say who the most important characters are, storyline wise, I'd say it'd go something like
Cloud > Tifa=Aeris > Barret=Cait Sith > Cid > Vincent > Red XIII > Yuffie
I mean, sure Cait Sith sucks in battle, but that's besides the point
Storyline, he's actually one of the most important character. He serves as sort of a foil to Barret.
If I had to say who the most important characters are, storyline wise, I'd say it'd go something like
Cloud > Tifa=Aeris > Barret=Cait Sith > Cid > Vincent > Red XIII > Yuffie
I mean, sure Cait Sith sucks in battle, but that's besides the point
It's also bugged as hell.
My last playthrough is recent, and I did some research because of it.
You have to master last the Enemy Talent materia, because that's where the programmer added the event triggering the achievement into Steam. Meaning if the last materia you master isn't an Enny Talent, you're not gonna have the achievement.
Nevertheless it's pretty easy (and ininteresting to do like many achievements are) to grind the materias once in the final cave. It's also very useless at this point of the game...
Also, the 99.999.999 gils achievement is an asshole thing. Even by having mastred all materias (and without getting the achivement), I wasn't anywhere near 20 millions gils.
I didn't bother duplicating chocobo food to sell at this point.
Thickstone
Member
Do it.
But make sure to play IX somewhere down the line. X,IX and VII are the best ones imo and they did a pretty good job with X HD.
I saw it back in 2008. A lot of people shitting on FF games post VI saying that 3D ruined it. Mostly on topics relating to Dissidia oddly enough. But I just do my best to ignore those people.
Some of them are so arrogant and so far up their own ass.. It's incredible.. Bloated egos like I have never seen before. As if their taste in video games means anything..
TheContact
Member
I always love learning Beta early on from the serpent. You need the elemental materia equipped with fire to someone's armor, they have to be in the back row, and you need to put sadness on them so they can survive Beta, but when you do it makes the next few parts of the game hilarious
Final Fantasy VII is my favorite game of all time (tied with Chrono Trigger, but I would pick 7 with a gun to my head). The first time I played through it was such a magical experience, it was actually the fairly poor original PC version. Still though, not even a sub-par PC port could ruin the magic of playing FFVII for the first time.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I'm returning to the party after being generously gifted FFVII last night. I began playing some of it today. The game really does show its age but it's such a classic. I kind of love the simplicity of it compared to most contemporary FF games. It's so easy to learn and play.
FFVII was also probably one of the most unique FF games when it comes to the setting. It's dark and oppressive and has much less of a fantasy theme than the rest of the games in the series.
OP, hope you're enjoying it once again.
FFVII was also probably one of the most unique FF games when it comes to the setting. It's dark and oppressive and has much less of a fantasy theme than the rest of the games in the series.
OP, hope you're enjoying it once again.
Did you say the same for FFVIII too? Because now it has a "kill 10,000 enemies" achievement and if so this is all your fault.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
It's probably been mentioned, but once you install the Steam version, you also have to create a Square account (if you don't already have one) to play it. Pretty lame.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Asked this in the FF Community thread but maybe someone will know here....
How do I organize/arrange the magic in the menu? For instance, for me to cast Aqualung, I got to scroll down a few times and then click [ok] to use it. I don't want to have to scroll all the way down to it. Is there a way I coud put this at the top of the menu when in battle so I can cast it easier?
How do I organize/arrange the magic in the menu? For instance, for me to cast Aqualung, I got to scroll down a few times and then click [ok] to use it. I don't want to have to scroll all the way down to it. Is there a way I coud put this at the top of the menu when in battle so I can cast it easier?
Box of Kittens
Banned
Agreed. Graphics aside, I'd say FFVI has more in common with FFVII than it does with, say, FFIV or FFV.
For me there was a big difference in narrative perspective between the two, one mostly following Cloud while the other was more of an overhead view of the different characters in the party.
The entire magic+technology dystopian empire setting was pretty similar, though.
The entire magic+technology dystopian empire setting was pretty similar, though.
I thought FFVII was terrible when I first started playing it -- I was really disappointed that they made me identify with one male main character and delivered me two girlfriends to enjoy/choose from. It felt like it was pandering a lot harder than earlier FF's. Whenever a sweeping, epic plot has just enough female characters to fill up the harem of one main hero, it's hard not to feel like the story is missing some scope, or even some humanity. Some free will for its characters.
I was also sad it went from a huge cast of characters, almost all with their own roles in the plot, to a small cast with a few side characters you probably wouldn't even use due to the 3 character party limit.
By the time I beat the game, I ended up loving it, and years later I consider it one of my favorite FFs. It gave me that constantly expanding and unveiling world feeling that the Final Fantasy games do so well, despite my high expectations coming from VI. The graphics were wonderful at the time. And the score is one of Uematsu's masterpieces!
So wait, is FFVII a masterpiece in your eyes, or is it too similar to FFVI?
I'd say the two games are pretty incredibly different. Avoid fixating on the graphics and you'll see that the gameplay is almost entirely different, not to mention the huge differences in storytelling, structure, and that hugely important part of the final fantasy feel, the world building.
But personally, I'd say they're both masterpieces.
I was also sad it went from a huge cast of characters, almost all with their own roles in the plot, to a small cast with a few side characters you probably wouldn't even use due to the 3 character party limit.
By the time I beat the game, I ended up loving it, and years later I consider it one of my favorite FFs. It gave me that constantly expanding and unveiling world feeling that the Final Fantasy games do so well, despite my high expectations coming from VI. The graphics were wonderful at the time. And the score is one of Uematsu's masterpieces!
So wait, is FFVII a masterpiece in your eyes, or is it too similar to FFVI?
I'd say the two games are pretty incredibly different. Avoid fixating on the graphics and you'll see that the gameplay is almost entirely different, not to mention the huge differences in storytelling, structure, and that hugely important part of the final fantasy feel, the world building.
But personally, I'd say they're both masterpieces.
Box of Kittens
Banned
There's some pretty big differences for sure. But I'd still argue that, graphics aside, there's even bigger differences between FFVI and the preceding Final Fantasies.
I could definitely see the argument for that -- but that just shows what a shocking leap FFVI was from all FFs before it, at least in terms of storytelling and world building. And FFVII benefitted from that groundwork. It's a separate discussion from whether there are huge differences between VI and VII, which I barely scratched the surface of above.
It's pretty remarkable how little development time there was between each game and how reinvented every game in the series was. Squaresoft really knew what they were doing.
Box of Kittens
Banned
I think we're pretty much in agreement. Saying the games are "so similar" is probably a stretch. What I was trying (and apparently failing) to convey is that I find it odd how so many people treat FFVII as this stark dividing line in the series where all the games before it were similar to one another and all the games from VII on were this new breed of Final Fantasy. The series has pretty much constantly changed and evolved.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Well, I guess nobody knows the answer to my question even though I *cough* posted it twice.
Anyways, I went back to Fort Condor and I hate strategy types of games. I got the buggy and got the Mythril and Bolt Ring from the old man in the cave and I figure I'll try my luck with Fort Condor.
I can't stress how much I love this game and how much it's holding up for me. This game is as entertaining as any contemporary FF and maybe even more so. I want to own the entire FFVII Compilation now.
Anyways, I went back to Fort Condor and I hate strategy types of games. I got the buggy and got the Mythril and Bolt Ring from the old man in the cave and I figure I'll try my luck with Fort Condor.
I can't stress how much I love this game and how much it's holding up for me. This game is as entertaining as any contemporary FF and maybe even more so. I want to own the entire FFVII Compilation now.
You can't rearrange the magic in the enemy skill materia as far as I know.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Damn, that sucks. I hate having to scroll through tonnes of empty slots just to use a skill. Thanks for an answer, anyhow.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
I won all 8 battles in the Battle Arena in the Gold Saucer. To even enter the contest, I had to annoyingly get GPs from playing stupid mini-games. After that arduous process, I entered the contest and just barely made it through. What did I win? A fucking 'tissue'! Fuck you, Gold Saucer!