So I just started this the other day, and I'm really enjoying the game, but it's giving me 'what am I supposed to be doing?' anxiety. Like, should I study or eat food or hang out with people? Very early game but
Yukiko, I think her name is
is still in the TV and it's been like a week and I don't know if that's OK? I joined two clubs but they meet on the same day and I don't know which to go to? Also, headphones dude was all 'we have a day off tomorrow we should go to TV land' so when my football friends phoned I said I wouldn't hang out with them; but when I went to the department store he was all 'hey let's hang out' so I got nothing done? I have enough trouble with this stuff in real life without it happening in games too.
Plus, I think I suck at this game. I keep getting killed by
the angry fire bird monster thing on floor 8 of the first dungeon
even though I got through the dungeon itself OK. If I don't want to have to wonder around killing monsters over and over to level up, should I just start again on easy? I really love the story and characters and soundtrack and stuff but I don't think I'm good enough at the actual video game bit to not get frustrated.
Starting again on Easy might not be a bad idea if you want to get thru the game with zero grinding. That boss can be tough if you don't have a Persona who can deal with its fire attacks. You can fast forward thru the non interactive parts really quickly if you choose to restart so its not a huge time loss.
Fusing as often as possible is a good habit to get into. Obviously if you have a really strong Persona that you rely on you don't want to fuse it and get a weaker one. But fusing new personas as often as you can really helps.
So I just started this the other day, and I'm really enjoying the game, but it's giving me 'what am I supposed to be doing?' anxiety. Like, should I study or eat food or hang out with people? Very early game but
Yukiko, I think her name is
is still in the TV and it's been like a week and I don't know if that's OK? I joined two clubs but they meet on the same day and I don't know which to go to? Also, headphones dude was all 'we have a day off tomorrow we should go to TV land' so when my football friends phoned I said I wouldn't hang out with them; but when I went to the department store he was all 'hey let's hang out' so I got nothing done? I have enough trouble with this stuff in real life without it happening in games too.
Plus, I think I suck at this game. I keep getting killed by
the angry fire bird monster thing on floor 8 of the first dungeon
even though I got through the dungeon itself OK. If I don't want to have to wonder around killing monsters over and over to level up, should I just start again on easy? I really love the story and characters and soundtrack and stuff but I don't think I'm good enough at the actual video game bit to not get frustrated.
1) The 'what should I be doing?' anxeity was something I had on my first run. Really, your priority should be rescuing people from the TV, because they have a time limit. You can do anything else in your down time once you've rescued the person inside. You have a very long in-game time to build up your social links and attributes, so don't fret about them right now. Any opportunities thrown at you can be had again in a week or two.
2) Tackling the boss on floor 8 is challenging. It's your first major end-dungeon boss, so you're not really sure what to expect. The best thing to do is find its weakness (
use bufu spells
) and find out where its getting its strength from (
normally the Charming Prince -- it heals Shadow Yukiko and is weak to Zio attacks, so finish it off as soon as she summons it
). Remember that once you've learned an enemy's weakness, Teddie remembers it and you can bring up this info with the Analyze command (it won't waste your turn). I'd recommend facing Yukiko's Shadow at between level 10 and 15, depending on what personas you have. You primarily want
electric
attacks (
Zio
) and
ice (Bufu)
.
3) As for starting again... if you're really struggling, you could do it. But Normal isn't hard; it's just intimidating in the first dungeon. Once you've got to grips with the gameplay, I find successive dungeons are far less of a struggle. Playing on Easy pretty much means the game is on autopilot for the purposes of playing the story. If that's what you want, then start again, but if you want the RPG stuff then try and get through the first dungeon before you go down difficulty.
Some other general hints would be:
- Do a few non-boss battles. Don't avoid all enemies, because you can use shuffle time to acquire new Personas and in-dungeon bonuses. On Normal in Persona 4 Golden, I found that simply fighting every enemy I encountered as I climbed the dungeon floors pushed me a few levels past what the boss really requires you to be at. Some food for thought. On Normal, you certainly won't have to run around floors grinding levels out for hours on end, just progress through the dungeon and face who you meet, and you'll do fine.
- Go to the velvet room and fuse often. Fusion is important; don't bother levelling your personas. This isn't Pokemon.
- The sooner you clear a dungeon, the sooner you're back experiencing story segments. But don't push yourself too hard; once you've run out of SP on all your characters, retire for the night. SP recovery items are rare, and you'll want to save them for real emergencies. Once you've learned the game, any dungeon should be easily cleared in 3 days max.
Oh, no doubt. Personas also have abilities to share XP too, which is useful for that purpose. But in general, fusion and using the S.Link bonus to level the persona up is the accepted way of gaining those abilities. Levelling up personas through battle really is a grind.
Oh, no doubt. Personas also have abilities to share XP too, which is useful for that purpose. But in general, fusion and using the S.Link bonus to level the persona up is the accepted way of gaining those abilities. Levelling up through battle really is a grind.
Yep, and it's unfortunate the first dungeon that you find yourself doing it a lot to have a competent persona for when you face the end-boss.
Honestly, I probably go too far with it, but I loved having a persona with Resist Fire, Resist Physical, Red Wall, and Media for the fight. Of those, Media is probably the only really good one to have on normal since having a heal all spell for the fight is awesome. I think an early Justice one gets it, but I always use Oberon for the fight personally, since it comes with Zio, a very strong physical attack ability, and Media.
Just started this after not getting very far in P4 PS2 last year. I loved P3P though, so I told myself I'd wait until I had a Vita to revisit it. Looks/sounds great so far.
Advice persona vets. On the first run should I use one of the max a link guides that tells ya how do spend each day? I'm not sure given the length of the game I can do 2 whole runs of a 70 hour game. I did this wit p3 fes and it turned out ok.
Advice persona vets. On the first run should I use one of the max a link guides that tells ya how do spend each day? I'm not sure given the length of the game I can do 2 whole runs of a 70 hour game. I did this wit p3 fes and it turned out ok.
Don't obsess over it. Use it as a reference if you want, but don't worry about following it step by step. There's no real reason to max every social link, some of them aren't even very good.
Unless you really feel compelled to see everything, but I don't think that's a good way to play through the first time.
Advice persona vets. On the first run should I use one of the max a link guides that tells ya how do spend each day? I'm not sure given the length of the game I can do 2 whole runs of a 70 hour game. I did this wit p3 fes and it turned out ok.
Advice persona vets. On the first run should I use one of the max a link guides that tells ya how do spend each day? I'm not sure given the length of the game I can do 2 whole runs of a 70 hour game. I did this wit p3 fes and it turned out ok.
I think a S.Link guide ruins the experience (I quite enjoy the aspect of juggling my friends around, rather than being "perfect"). If the guide is specifically designed for a first time save file, and it's good, then you'll probably be able to experience everything. However, if the guide is designed for NG+, you might find yourself falling behind.
I guess in the end it all depends on how much winging it adds to the experience for you. Personally, I find the guides insufferable to follow, and feel they completely strangle the game. If you feel differently, and you think maxing the game out is the best way to enjoy it, then nothing I can say will stop you!
Dont follow a Max SLink guide on your first time. It ruins the game because you have a schedule you strictly follow. Its not fun. Save it for NG+ because you can 't even access everything on NG.
All you want to max on NG are your stats (knowledge, courage, etc) which is easy to do. It makes it much much easier to max out SLinks on NG+.
As for the issue of "what should I do?", just go do the rescue ASAP. Spend the remaing time however you want, though try to prioritize studies early on.
I'm playing golden right now as well. Beat Persona 4 last year. I love the enhancements they made. The whole game just feels fresh even after 100+ hours in the ps2 version.
Advice persona vets. On the first run should I use one of the max a link guides that tells ya how do spend each day? I'm not sure given the length of the game I can do 2 whole runs of a 70 hour game. I did this wit p3 fes and it turned out ok.
you'll have the best time if you just go with the flow and not stress about 100%-ing it(god have achievements ruined gaming). Playing the first run of P4 by a guide or FAQ would be to ruin the experience, like watching a walkthrough while playing Dark Souls. I'd advice on using guides for the technical stuff - like reading up on different personas, skills and whatever but nothing more really.
I skipped some days, I made some bad choices that had the consequence of not progressing the social link(i was annoyed and told the character off) at events with some characters. I played like how I felt MC should act even if it had a negative impact, that's the point of RPGs after all.
In my opinion you'll have less of an experience following some guide than just feeling it out, going where the game takes you, even if it means you won't see everything(if you are not satisfied at the end, you can always play it again).
This is the only Persona game I have played and only picked it up due to all the praise. I loved every second of it. The only JRPG I have finished since the PS1 days.
Is Persona 4 Golden significantly better than the original on the PS2? Im just now getting around to getting a PS2 and am thinking about picking up the original but dont know if I should just wait until I have the cash to pick up a Vita and this.
Is Persona 4 Golden significantly better than the original on the PS2? Im just now getting around to getting a PS2 and am thinking about picking up the original but dont know if I should just wait until I have the cash to pick up a Vita and this.
I would say so. There's a lot of streamlining such as quest givers are indicated as opposed to being sheer luck talking to random people. More events. You've got the ability to go out at night and hang out with people. Fishing is much more fleshed out. You can visit two extra locations that are only in cutscenes in the PS2 version. Two extra social links. Dat OLED. Costumes for battle. Fusing Personas is 100x more enjoyable. More voiced dialogue. New music. Better shuffle time. And an epilogue which follows the true ending.
All in all it's the better version to play in my opinion.
Really loved the game with one caveat. Having the game prematurely end if you don't pick some really arbitrary dialogue choices is a very piss poor thing to do. What were they thinking?
Is Persona 4 Golden significantly better than the original on the PS2? Im just now getting around to getting a PS2 and am thinking about picking up the original but dont know if I should just wait until I have the cash to pick up a Vita and this.
Really loved the game with one caveat. Having the game prematurely end if you don't pick some really arbitrary dialogue choices is a very piss poor thing to do. What were they thinking?
Yeah, ended up getting the bad end on my first playthrough of the ps2 version because of that, and didn't get the truest ending on my second play of the ps2 version.
Really loved the game with one caveat. Having the game prematurely end if you don't pick some really arbitrary dialogue choices is a very piss poor thing to do. What were they thinking?
Using a guide to play the game the first time is terrible, disagree completely. And you can't get back that quickly if you simply don't know. It's not even clear why you have to make said choices.
Is Persona 4 Golden significantly better than the original on the PS2? Im just now getting around to getting a PS2 and am thinking about picking up the original but dont know if I should just wait until I have the cash to pick up a Vita and this.
I've played the original on the Ps2 and there's no question that Golden is the definitive version of P4.
Atlus has polished just about every aspect of the game like for example in the original persona fusion was a pain to get the desired spells to transfer over now you can choose exactly what you want. They've added a new character along with a corresponding dungeon and social-link. There's mechanics to improve and customize your friends personas along with custom outfits for your crew. New events at the beach and a ski-trip plus probably quite a lot I've forgot to mention. I think the only thing I miss from playing it on the Ps2 was the rumble.
I would never suggest buying a system for just one game, but if you are thinking of getting a Vita it's a no-brainer to get P4 Golden.
I really loved this game(even the dungeons) however
End game story spoilers ahead
It kind of lost me with the Izanami/gas station attendant thing. I was pretty happy with the whole story up until then. I would have been even happier if it was just Adachi as the final boss, nothing to do with Magatsu Inaba, but that was OK. The story was very narrowly focused on this one small town murder spree and then all of a sudden it felt like things went off the wall crazy.
I'm of the opinion that the multiple endings were handled very poorly in Persona 4. I remember there art least being one deciding dialogue choice which could be interpreted differently similarly to the "right" one and I'm certain when I say that the last deciding factor to get to the true ending would not be randomly stumbled upon by most people who play the game.
At least Persona 4 Golden remedied that somewhat with frequent prompts telling the player to save because there'd be no turning back.
So it's near the end of the game, and I didn't finish Rise's Social Link (ended at 9)...
Feel really bad right now, almost like I let her down. It's strange. You spend 60+ hours with these programmed characters and you become attached to them. It's gotten to the point where I almost don't want to finish the game.
I've played the original on the Ps2 and there's no question that Golden is the definitive version of P4.
Atlus has polished just about every aspect of the game like for example in the original persona fusion was a pain to get the desired spells to transfer over now you can choose exactly what you want. They've added a new character along with a corresponding dungeon and social-link. There's mechanics to improve and customize your friends personas along with custom outfits for your crew. New events at the beach and a ski-trip plus probably quite a lot I've forgot to mention. I think the only thing I miss from playing it on the Ps2 was the rumble.
I would never suggest buying a system for just one game, but if you are thinking of getting a Vita it's a no-brainer to get P4 Golden.
Thats what I'm seeing from a lot of people... gah... I wish they had made it on the PS2 instead of the Vita... I really care about nothing on the Vita except for Golden... thanks for the answers everyone.
Using a guide to play the game the first time is terrible, disagree completely. And you can't get back that quickly if you simply don't know. It's not even clear why you have to make said choices.
So I started P4G this week and just finished the first dungeon. I had to reload a save after dying my first time through on the boss. I entered the dungeon on the last day possible so I couldn't leave and fill up on HP/SP.
On my second try, I just spent several hours grinding so that my party was all level 15. Is this the same strategy to take in later dungeons? Enter, grind for hours, then head for the boss? Or is the ideal to enter the dungeon early when it's available, play a few of the levels of it, then leave, heal/up my SP and head back in the next day again?
So I started P4G this week and just finished the first dungeon. I had to reload a save after dying my first time through on the boss. I entered the dungeon on the last day possible so I couldn't leave and fill up on HP/SP.
On my second try, I just spent several hours grinding so that my party was all level 15. Is this the same strategy to take in later dungeons? Enter, grind for hours, then head for the boss? Or is the ideal to enter the dungeon early when it's available, play a few of the levels of it, then leave, heal/up my SP and head back in the next day again?
You want to try to spend as little time in a dungeon so you can save your days for slinks and other things. So if you can do it in one day that's the optimal way to do it.
So I started P4G this week and just finished the first dungeon. I had to reload a save after dying my first time through on the boss. I entered the dungeon on the last day possible so I couldn't leave and fill up on HP/SP.
On my second try, I just spent several hours grinding so that my party was all level 15. Is this the same strategy to take in later dungeons? Enter, grind for hours, then head for the boss? Or is the ideal to enter the dungeon early when it's available, play a few of the levels of it, then leave, heal/up my SP and head back in the next day again?
Play it the way you want really. It's optimal to do it using as little time as possible, but that kind of destroys the game's pacing and losing a few days here and there isn't really all that significant unless you are trying to max every social link, which you should not do on your first playthrough.
Well for what it's worth, my tactic was rescue at the first opportunity then in the downtime while they recover build up s-links and when it comes time for the next dungeon fuse some more powerful personas.
The secret to the game is to let your personas do most of the heavy lifting, so try to fuse in the arcana that you've got progress along a s-link. Also along the way through a dungeon you can get card drops that allow you to level up your currently active persona to the next level or gain more powerful spells.
Doing it this way means you can punch above your weight with very little actual grinding.
Hey I'm assuming this has been known forever, but I just found
The teddie midnight channel in the tv listings
last night. Can you do anything besides knock him over and tickle him?
I'm of the opinion that the multiple endings were handled very poorly in Persona 4. I remember there art least being one deciding dialogue choice which could be interpreted differently similarly to the "right" one and I'm certain when I say that the last deciding factor to get to the true ending would not be randomly stumbled upon by most people who play the game.
yeah that one was kinda iffy if we are talking about the same one,
(Is it one of the throwing Namatame in lines?)
but gotta blame that on the translation. So it's an issue I admit, but I feel it's excusable. The last deciding factor
(I'm assuming you meant not going home/ going to Junes)
Is kinda random, but at the same time, you must have realized the case wasn't over. There were way too many loose threads; and while the way to tie them up was arbitrary, it was important that you went and looked. The place to look isn't very illogical either.
Where did you do all the other mystery solving?
Also I defend all the bad endings.
If you threw Namatame in
, you get an apt ending. The ending you deserve. The same goes for
not being able to name the correct killer
. Thankfully the game tells you to save. I see it as the same as a boss battle. If you can't beat it you get the ending you deserve, and can take it or reload a save. The ending is just much more detailed in the case of a bad or not perfect ending, rather than an immediate option to reload a save.
I expressed an interest in trying an RPG on the Vita to start off 2014 over in the Vita OT, and P4G seemed to be the popular choice. It'll be my first ever JRPG.
I'm about to get started, but I'm not sure which difficulty setting to choose. Bearing in mind that I've got virtually zero experience with this kind of RPG (and very little with any other kind of RPG), should I be going with Easy or Very Easy? Would I regret it later if I chose Very Easy?
I expressed an interest in trying an RPG on the Vita to start off 2014 over in the Vita OT, and P4G seemed to be the popular choice. It'll be my first ever JRPG.
I'm about to get started, but I'm not sure which difficulty setting to choose. Bearing in mind that I've got virtually zero experience with this kind of RPG (and very little with any other kind of RPG), should I be going with Easy or Very Easy? Would I regret it later if I chose Very Easy?
Are you certain? I'm really not kidding about my lack of experience with RPGs/JRPGs and I'd like to avoid scaring myself off early on if I can. Can you describe in what ways the game increases in difficulty (based on which setting you choose)?
Are you certain? I'm really not kidding about my lack of experience with RPGs/JRPGs and I'd like to avoid scaring myself off early on if I can. Can you describe in what ways the game increases in difficulty (based on which setting you choose)?
The first boss isn't that hard, but can be tricky because you don't have very many skills at your disposal. After that the game gets easier and easier, primarily because the game throws skills cards, level ups, and stat ups at you, as well as your number of Personas (and thus, abiltilies) increasing. By the third or fourth dungeon, you'll probably find the game quite easy.
Are you certain? I'm really not kidding about my lack of experience with RPGs/JRPGs and I'd like to avoid scaring myself off early on if I can. Can you describe in what ways the game increases in difficulty (based on which setting you choose)?
On Easy,monsters do less damage to you and you earn more XP and Gold for each fight. Also you get multiple continues if you do happen to die in a battle.
Normal, the damage isn't that bad, but it's enough where you have to actually heal normally.
Hard, you need to grind more, because you get less XP and take more damage.
I was a bit puzzled at the abrupt like ending and then found out to get the new ending I had to start over.
I can't truly say I seen the ending as I only got the bad ending and I said this was one of the best rpgs I've ever played. How foolish of me?? I did spoil the true ending a little but I still want to find out how it transpires.
Are you certain? I'm really not kidding about my lack of experience with RPGs/JRPGs and I'd like to avoid scaring myself off early on if I can. Can you describe in what ways the game increases in difficulty (based on which setting you choose)?
Persona 3 was my first JRPG and it put me onto the series big time. I think I played that one on easy as to not put myself off, but with 4, I played on Normal and was perfectly fine. If it gets a little hard, just get some more XP to level up - improve your items as well. Easy!
I'm about to get started, but I'm not sure which difficulty setting to choose. Bearing in mind that I've got virtually zero experience with this kind of RPG (and very little with any other kind of RPG), should I be going with Easy or Very Easy? Would I regret it later if I chose Very Easy?
Easy increases your damage output, and decreases the damage you take. It makes the game much less grindy to complete. Very easy gives you waaay more XP and money, meaning that grinding is absolutely unnecessary, and simply fighting half the monsters you encounter will overlevel. It also lets you continue a battle after you die. When your HP hits zero, you can chose to have it be completely refilled, along with SP (not to mention the same happens for the whole party) while your enemy's health remains the same. Simply put you cannot loose.
For an non grindy playthrough, choose easy, If you don't want to have to worry about combat at all, choose very easy
I expressed an interest in trying an RPG on the Vita to start off 2014 over in the Vita OT, and P4G seemed to be the popular choice. It'll be my first ever JRPG.
I'm about to get started, but I'm not sure which difficulty setting to choose. Bearing in mind that I've got virtually zero experience with this kind of RPG (and very little with any other kind of RPG), should I be going with Easy or Very Easy? Would I regret it later if I chose Very Easy?
