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LttP: Super Mario Galaxy 2 My body was not ready
- Thread starter Head of Vengarl
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Orniletter
Banned
Have you even played the game yourself or are you going by compressed youtube videos ?
3D World looks amazing.
Full Stop.
It is one of the very bestlooking games of the year (or ever).
Picked up my Wii U a few weeks ago, and I ordered Galaxy 1 & 2 because I have never played them. I'm excited
Jesus what I would do to play the Galaxies for the first time again.
Solid Samus
Banned
Oh yeah.
moltonasty
Member
Fucking unreal game. I really should replay it one of these days.
Uncle Rupee
Banned
If you read that crazy Gamecube article that was floating around in the past few days there's a section where they talk about Super Mario Sunshine being too difficult, and if you look at SMG 1 & 2 (which are pretty easy games for the most part) and now SM3DL/W (which is attempting to bridge the gap between SMG and NSMB) you can see the progression I was talking about. Also, the SMG games sold poorly in Japan compared to the NSMB games so there is an added incentive to make the 3D games more like the 2D ones.
Coffee Dog
Banned
The best 3D platformer ever made. The mechanics and level design are so perfectly tuned to one another that it makes the entire experience feel very cohesive and natural.
Seriously.
Seriously.
Yup, best game on Wii. Still can't believe they surpassed the original, but by golly they did.
I love 3D Land and 3D World as well, but they're not quite on the same level (although the multiplayer does make up for -- and explain -- the slightly less tight level designs).
Truth: I'd pay full price for Galaxy 1 + 2 HD. And with that, I mean the price of two full new games, even though I already own them. Shut up and take my money, Nintendo.
I love 3D Land and 3D World as well, but they're not quite on the same level (although the multiplayer does make up for -- and explain -- the slightly less tight level designs).
Truth: I'd pay full price for Galaxy 1 + 2 HD. And with that, I mean the price of two full new games, even though I already own them. Shut up and take my money, Nintendo.
i'd say that Mario 3D World has tighter, more focused level design than Galaxy.
Pancakes R Us
Member
I'm rather jealous of people that get to experience this masterpiece for the first time. What a title. I bitch about Nintendo and don't like a lot of their decisions these days, but the company can take a couple of bows for this one.
I never know what people are talking about when they blame the lack of tightness in 3D World on multiplayer. In the space per things to do ratio, 3D World certainly isn't worse off than Galaxy.
Best galaxy in Galaxy 2 is Chomworks Galaxy. Has flip switches, golden Chomps, shadow Mario trains, the works.
eddfromtheriver
Banned
I love Mario games... but the Galaxy games give meaning to the word "overrated".
Solid Samus
Banned
If opinions can't be wrong then can they at least be terrible
Mango The Magician
Banned
It's a good game, but having played through it again recently, I prefer the first one more. Galaxy 1 has: a better hub, some better levels, a better story, and overall feels more "complete". I will argue though Galaxy 2 handles Luigi better than Galaxy 1,
I also really like how Galaxy 1 has it's own story in comparison to Galaxy 2. Overall though going from Galaxy 1 and 2 to 3D Land then 3D World still feels like a slap in the face. :/ The 3D_ series sucks in comparison to the other 3D series.
I also prefer collecting the extra stars more than just collecting the same ones again.
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Oh but they are in fact overrated. I liked them... but i much preferred ACiT over both of them.
I guess I'm one of not very few who enjoyed the first one more. Don't get me wrong, SMG2 is a wonderful game and without a doubt my GOTY for 2010 (although Mass Effect 2 came very close), and they have added just enough to make everything feel fresh and new. But I don't know, eventhough I ended up enjoying it a loooooot, I had a few moments of "been there done that". The best part was without a doubt the nostalgia trip to (world 6 spoilers!!!!)
. I had a big grin on my face from start to end. But there were some downsides to for me, Yoshi was fun and all the first few times, but I ended up relatively really not liking the levels where he was essential. I don't know why, I guess I'm one of the few. I didn't even bother going after the stars again after 120, whereas in SMG1 I got the
.
The first one though, that was pure magic. I couldn't remember the last time I saw greatness like that (oh yeah, I do. OOT). Especially because I wasn't even aware of it pre-release, it came out of the sky and boy, wow.
Whomp Fortress remake
120 starts with Luigi too
The first one though, that was pure magic. I couldn't remember the last time I saw greatness like that (oh yeah, I do. OOT). Especially because I wasn't even aware of it pre-release, it came out of the sky and boy, wow.
Freezie KO
Banned
Prince Vultan
Banned
I just couldn't finish it tbh. I really enjoyed the first one but by the time I was playing this I was getting tired of going through the motions with the usual Nintendo franchises and made it maybe halfway through before just stopping. It was just way too much like an expansion pack or something of the first to do much for me, so coming at the time it did for me... well...
Glad you're getting so much out of it though. Enjoy.
Glad you're getting so much out of it though. Enjoy.
umm that really doesn't definitively make Mario galaxy overrated. It just means you personally liked another game more. Mario galaxy still stands at the pinnacle of platformers regardless of your likes and dislikes it's pretty much universally excepted as one of the best ever especially for last gen.
If this is all you mean by it then you really should use another word other than "overrated". It's such a loaded term that means much more than what people are willing to actually defend. As it stands, you're basically saying "stop liking what I don't like as much". Which isn't much.
It cool if you like ACiT more, not everyone like platformers. So shooters are more up your alley.
Solid Samus
Banned
And Ipreferred most of last year's great games over The Last of Us but I'm not gonna call the game that is damn near unanimously loved by critics and players alike with tons of redeeming factors and novel differentiating qualities from its peers 'overrated' just because it didn't do it for me in particular.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
The Yoshi mechanics in this are sublime. Like, the most enjoyable and satisfying platforming stuff ever.
I seriously need another 3D Mario with 500% more Yoshi.
I seriously need another 3D Mario with 500% more Yoshi.
Holy Order Sol
Member
Of course your body wasn't ready. How could it have been?
They're not overrated, you just don't like them as much as other people do.
They're not overrated, you just don't like them as much as other people do.
Bill Rizer
Member
Galaxy 1 was a bit of a letdown to me (apart from the amazing soundtrack), but Galaxy 2 is mostly solid. Glad with the direction they took with 3D World.
Green Mamba
Member
Having played them recently back to back, I think the first is easily the better game overall. Galaxy 2 has its moments, but it has more weird non-platforming stuff, is overly reliant on two-dimensional stages, and puts unneeded emphasis on a wide variety of power-ups (including a bunch of Yoshi fruits) instead of Mario's jumping. It overall feels more gimmicky than the first game, like they had kind of stretched the main game design to its limits and had no where else to go, so they just went off in completely different tangents (I have a similar problem with Portal 2). The overall soundtrack is weaker, like it's trying too hard to one-up or just be the first Galaxy's. Still an amazing game (and there are a few moments where I have a hard time separating their stages in my head) though. 3D Land and World were both enormous steps back for the series.
What Mario games and/or other 3D platformers do you like better and why? Just wanting to see what you think.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I just bought both of these about a week ago and have started SMG1. So far, it's absolutely fantastic. I look forward to SMG2 as it's received some of the most praise I've ever seen for a Mario game (next to SMW and SM64 {for other reasons}).
I don't think that counts as a spoiler since every 3D mario game has hidden stars. Can you play as luigi in this one?
I played the first mario galaxy, and I got around halfway and stopped playing. After their departure from a mario 64 style game, I've lost interest in the 3d mario games. My little brother actually brought a copy of galaxy 2, but I never got around to play it.
Just the whole jumping from planet to planet makes it feel so disconnected...
I enjoy platformers, not for their difficulty, but more for their adventure aspect (mario 64, banjo kazooie, dk 64 etc.), and collectables.
TBH, I don't mind collectables in platformers at all, banjo tooie is probably my favourite platformer of them all and its almost exlusively about collecting collectables.
Just the whole jumping from planet to planet makes it feel so disconnected...
I enjoy platformers, not for their difficulty, but more for their adventure aspect (mario 64, banjo kazooie, dk 64 etc.), and collectables.
TBH, I don't mind collectables in platformers at all, banjo tooie is probably my favourite platformer of them all and its almost exlusively about collecting collectables.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
"Overrated" is a term used when someone just can't accept the fact that their tastes aren't universal.
I twitch at the idea of playing ACIT again. What a bland-fest.
I still maintain that the two types of 3D platformer design are different enough to warrant a sub-genre distinction. Like, Mario 64 is a playground 3D platformer, whereas Galaxy is a tunnel 3D platformer.
Mango The Magician
Banned
I'm not even sure people read those...Miiverse is better as a direct link to Nintendo, regardless though Nintendo needs to get as far away from the 3D_ formula with the next mainline game as possible. You don't make your 28-year-old game series sell better by making each installment play the same way and look the same way, it makes people question why they need to even buy the next installment.Don't forget to fill out your Club Nintendo survey to let them know.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
While not my favorite, it is objectively speaking the best game I've ever played.
Solid Samus
Banned
That's debatable plus highly YMMV if critical and (what seems to be) most player reactions are anything to go by. Plus I still don't think that the two approaches to 3D Mario are mutually exclusive to one another so I'd implore you to see it less as a step back and more as a 3D spinoff series doing its own thing (a third pillar to the Mario formula, potentially) that you don't find nearly as enjoyable.
Green Mamba
Member
Club Nintendo surveys were cited as one of the reasons Paper Mario: Sticker Star was what it was.
I'm quite content with my viewpoint on this matter, thank you very much.
Didn't Miyamoto make some mention of Club Nintendo surveys when people criticized the lack of RPG elements in Paper Mario: Sticker Star? That's the only time I can remember Nintendo commenting on them.
Freezie KO
Banned
Completely agree. I loved platforming and then pointing to a flower and flinging myself up. I would even make self challenges, where I would have to jump in the air and grab the chili peppers before I land again. As you said, satisfying.
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Mango the Magician said:
Completely agree. At least I got Club Nintendo coins for shitting on the game though. That's better than I get on GAF. And if anyone ever starts a Never Make Another 3D Mario Land Game movement on Miiverse, I'll join in.
MidnightCowboy
Member
Perfection. One of the 5 best games I've ever played, maybe the best.
Solid Samus
Banned
No way. For its flaws it still felt very unique in tone and atmosphere even compared to the rest of the series much less the rest of the platformer genre. Not perfect but certainly memorable IMO
Nocturnowl
Member
Not only the best Mario game but the best 3D Platformer there is, it took what I thought was the pinnacle of 3D platforming with Galaxy 1 and revealed that beyond the obscuring clouds there in fact was a higher peak to scale which was the domain of Galaxy 2.
SMG2 is so sure of itself it strolls out of the gate with an opening set of stages in world 1 that dive straight into the thick of things flinging in new ideas with every revealed galaxy. Within the first hour you'll have gotten to grips with Yoshi, the drill, flip switches and the Cloud Suit on top of returning elements from the original, warm up stages? no need, SMG1 itself was the warm up and SMG2 is the main event.
SMG2 is so sure of itself it strolls out of the gate with an opening set of stages in world 1 that dive straight into the thick of things flinging in new ideas with every revealed galaxy. Within the first hour you'll have gotten to grips with Yoshi, the drill, flip switches and the Cloud Suit on top of returning elements from the original, warm up stages? no need, SMG1 itself was the warm up and SMG2 is the main event.
Picked up my Wii U a few weeks ago, and I ordered Galaxy 1 & 2 because I have never played them. I'm excited
Don't try to play them back to back; you might get burnt out and miss out on what the games have to offer. At least in my experience what worked best for me was this with some off time in between each step:
- Got 120 stars in Galaxy 1
- Got 120 stars in Galaxy 2
- Went back and got the second 120 stars in Galaxy 1
- Still working on the next 120 stars in Galaxy 2
I got a little burnt out playing so much Galaxy. I wanted to keep going, but I didn't have it in me.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
I just realized I used the wrong name for the galaxy I was talking about in the OP. It's called the Flip-Swap Galaxy, not the Flipswitch Galaxy. I'll edit that now. And here's a video of some guy playing it, for those of you who haven't played it yet or don't remember:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWDRFM4cgsE
Of course he does it perfectly so it looks easy (even though he only had like 10 seconds left), but you can still see what I was talking about. Also: dat Gusty Garden Galaxy remix music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWDRFM4cgsE
Of course he does it perfectly so it looks easy (even though he only had like 10 seconds left), but you can still see what I was talking about. Also: dat Gusty Garden Galaxy remix music.