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LTTP: The Harvest Moon series

I agree op. I absolutely love Harvest Moon. I'm happy that games like these exist at all. It's surprisingly really fun getting into a methodical routine and building your farm up and becoming a part of the town/community. After a while you really get into a rhythm of things.
 
My first Harvest Moon was Friends of Mineral Town. Loved every second of the game. Charming graphics, lovely characters and fun events. All-around a great game.

My second was A Wonderful Life. It's vastly different and I didn't appreciate it at the time, but I think I'd like it more now. It still seems way too depressing for its own good, though, even if that may be the point. At least more memorable characters or events would've helped, as the idea is a good one.

My third was Harvest Moon for SNES via Virtual Console. I adore the graphics and general atmosphere - it's much more down-to-earth than Friends of Mineral Down. It's sadly not very packed with content and the actual farming is cumbersome due to limitations. Still, it's a charming title. Not the best entry point I'd say, though.

My fourth was Harvest Moon: A New Beginning. I was itching to play a new entry and this had received a lot of praise, so I figured I'd jump in. Turned out it's utter crap. At least Story of Seasons seems better.

My next step will be Rune Factory 4.
 
"Ctrl F + Save The Homeland"

Anyone else play that one for the PS2? I feel like it gets dumped on a lot, but its not too bad. Of course, loved HM64, FoMT, A Wonderful Life, Back to Nature, the SNES original and all of the GBC versions.

I used to love the series, I'm so bummed out that its a shadow of what it used to be nowadays.

Save the Homeland didn't really strike a chord with me due to its short play through time and the multiple ending system. I was super psyched at the time when I saw there was a HM on PS2 (back when PS2 was the shit), but then was seriously underwhelmed by the gameplay. Part of what I loved about HM was the long-running gameplay and building a "life" so to speak.

STH is an interesting title, just very different from the conventional formula.

I was huge on 64, btn, and fomt. What's a good one to play next? I found awl way too slow.

I, too, was huge on those 3 (they are basically the same games, bar minor differences). My next favorite entry in the series is Magical Melody. The art style isn't my favorite, but it adds so much content and owning multiple lands and the building stuff is cool. I also felt the town progression and events in Magical Melody were quite nice.

Save the Homeland definitely has great music, and I like the idea of waking up to an ocean vista just outside my farm. Have been hearing negative things about how it plays, but I grew up with StH and don't wanna ruin my childhood by playing a mediocre HM.

What's everyone's beef with The Lost Valley? Just curious, as I want Natsume to survive long enough to keep porting Artdink handheld games.

Lost Valley butchered Harvest Moon. It was not developed by the traditional HM team, but instead made by a team at Natsume. They cashed in on the Minecraft craze by allowing you to "build" your valley, and there is no town. The NPCs just come to your farm. It's pretty terrible; a huge part of HM is watching the town evolve and having new NPCs that make it feel lively.

My first Harvest Moon was Friends of Mineral Town. Loved every second of the game. Charming graphics, lovely characters and fun events. All-around a great game.

My second was A Wonderful Life. It's vastly different and I didn't appreciate it at the time, but I think I'd like it more now. It still seems way too depressing for its own good, though, even if that may be the point. At least more memorable characters or events would've helped, as the idea is a good one.

My third was Harvest Moon for SNES via Virtual Console. I adore the graphics and general atmosphere - it's much more down-to-earth than Friends of Mineral Down. It's sadly not very packed with content and the actual farming is cumbersome due to limitations. Still, it's a charming title. Not the best entry point I'd say, though.

My fourth was Harvest Moon: A New Beginning. I was itching to play a new entry and this had received a lot of praise, so I figured I'd jump in. Turned out it's utter crap. At least Story of Seasons seems better.

My next step will be Rune Factory 4.

How far did you get in ANB? I found the first 2 seasons to be very slow, but it picks up significantly after summer. I was prone to hating it at first, too, but then it turned out to be pretty good. Still haven't gotten past my first year in that game, though.
 
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Game looks pretty good to me
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"Ctrl F + Save The Homeland"

Anyone else play that one for the PS2? I feel like it gets dumped on a lot, but its not too bad. Of course, loved HM64, FoMT, A Wonderful Life, Back to Nature, the SNES original and all of the GBC versions.

I used to love the series, I'm so bummed out that its a shadow of what it used to be nowadays.

I was huge on 64, btn, and fomt. What's a good one to play next? I found awl way too slow.

Save the Homeland definitely has great music, and I like the idea of waking up to an ocean vista just outside my farm. Have been hearing negative things about how it plays, but I grew up with StH and don't wanna ruin my childhood by playing a mediocre HM.

What's everyone's beef with The Lost Valley? Just curious, as I want Natsume to survive long enough to keep porting Artdink handheld games.

My first Harvest Moon was Friends of Mineral Town. Loved every second of the game. Charming graphics, lovely characters and fun events. All-around a great game.

My second was A Wonderful Life. It's vastly different and I didn't appreciate it at the time, but I think I'd like it more now. It still seems way too depressing for its own good, though, even if that may be the point. At least more memorable characters or events would've helped, as the idea is a good one.

My third was Harvest Moon for SNES via Virtual Console. I adore the graphics and general atmosphere - it's much more down-to-earth than Friends of Mineral Down. It's sadly not very packed with content and the actual farming is cumbersome due to limitations. Still, it's a charming title. Not the best entry point I'd say, though.

My fourth was Harvest Moon: A New Beginning. I was itching to play a new entry and this had received a lot of praise, so I figured I'd jump in. Turned out it's utter crap. At least Story of Seasons seems better.

My next step will be Rune Factory 4.

Harvest Moon for SNES is by far my favorite.

Can't wait for Stardew Valley. This will be the last game I ever need.

So hyped for Stardew. Now if only it could get released..

Also, Magical Melody emulates great on Dolphin with some grahical enhancements even on a modest machine (running it on a 2014 MBP Retina w/ Iris):
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It's so bad. They clearly did some "market research" that said kids these days love Minecraft, and tried to make Harvest Moon into that. I fucking hate it.

When the whole staff who was developing the titles for you up and takes off, gotta do what you can I guess. They went in such a horrible direction I can't help but wonder what they were thinking. Natsume without Marvelous is useless.
 
When the whole staff who was developing the titles for you up and takes off, gotta do what you can I guess. They went in such a horrible direction I can't help but wonder what they were thinking. Natsume without Marvelous is useless.

Totally agree. It's a shame Marvelous doesn't own the Harvest Moon IP, but I am hopeful and excited for Story of Seasons.
 
How far did you get in ANB? I found the first 2 seasons to be very slow, but it picks up significantly after summer. I was prone to hating it at first, too, but then it turned out to be pretty good. Still haven't gotten past my first year in that game, though.
Almost exactly one year if I remember correctly. I got married (to Tina!) and stuff too. The goal to marry was the only thing that kept me going. The game is a huge slog and only playing a year took way over 40 hours. I wrote some impressions when I stopped playing, if you don't mind:

Harvest Moon: A New Beginning is, as the name implies, an attempt to begin anew. With a fresh start to a franchise long considered stale, A New Beginning hopes to bring new ideas to the table and bring back the flare to the popular farm simulator. Yet, despite a lot of interesting additions A New Beginning cannot hide its slow and tedious core.

In similar vein to past entries, A New Beginning opens up with you inheriting an old run-down farm with the task of restoring it to its former glory. From there on out you will grow crops, take care of animals, attend festivals, befriend the local villagers and eventually find your loved one in typical Harvest Moon fashion.

What sets this particular title apart from the rest is how Echo Village – the town you just moved into – is almost entirely uninhabited. With the help of the mayor it is your task to bring back life to the community! This means that in addition to your daily farming routine, you now also have a list of set objectives to fulfill if you wish to progress through the game and unlock more villagers.

The most welcome new feature, however, is the emphasis on customization. For the first time in the franchise you can not only create your own character, but you can also fully customize the layout of your farm and town. By completing different objectives you will unlock more blueprints, allowing you to create buildings that can then be placed anywhere on the map. While the options can sadly be rather limited, it certainly does help make A New Beginning stand out and feel slightly more personal.

Unfortunately, a poor implementation of these new mechanics soon rears its ugly head and ruins what otherwise truly could have been a new beginning.

The first issue comes in the form of the objectives you need to complete. By hiding the townÂ’s growth behind these arbitrarily goals, the game is stripped of all the fun the Harvest Moon franchise is known for. To progress you often need to create a variation of buildings and items that in turn require different materials. The problem arises when you lack the required materials to progress, which can completely stop you from progressing until the correct in-game season will provide you with the material. This is not something desired, as a lack of progression means the town will not develop and no new features or bachelors/bachelorettes will be added.

With the risk of getting stuck, A New Beginning ends up becoming a game focused on hoarding rather than farming. Every little item you forage ends up stored in a shed instead of sold, defeating the entire purpose of the game.

This would not be a problem if not the gameplay itself was so slow and tedious, however. Everything you do in A New Beginning will take a lot of time, whether it is taking care of animals or merely walking around talking with the villagers. The animations are sluggish and you are required to go through a set of menus every time you want to give treats, food or gifts to others. Even taking care of crops takes an immense amount of time as you can only fertilize and pick up one crop at a time. Furthermore, as if to make matters worse, the frame rate is low and choppy if you are in the town or farm area, the latter being the place you will spend most time at.

With no other redeeming qualities to make up for this repetitive core, there is not much fun to be had. There are no interesting villagers to interact with – everyone only being mere archetypes rather than full-fledged characters – nor are there any exciting festivals to participate in. The graphics are empty-looking and the soundtrack only consists of a handful short and simple tracks that will soon get on your nerves.

As a result of all this, the delicate fine line between “enjoyable” and “boring” the Harvest Moon franchise has always balanced on has been severed and it shows: A New Beginning is nothing but a chore.

Don't like it one bit.
 
Harvest Moon: Back to Nature, PS1 is the only Harvest Moon title I played and never got enough.
I want this series back for the home console. I always play relaxing games at a big screen.

It's already there. Aside from the odd PSP titles, Harvest Moon on consoles is sort of a Nintendo thing.
 
Totally agree. It's a shame Marvelous doesn't own the Harvest Moon IP, but I am hopeful and excited for Story of Seasons.
No, they own the IP, just not the "Harvest Moon" trademark, which Natsume first coined...otherwise the games would be called Farm Story like in Japan. So the name's changed, but the Bokujo Monogatari tradition lives strong at Marvelous. Natsume's trying to spur off their competing series with a familiar name as their strength.
 
No, they own the IP, just not the "Harvest Moon" trademark, which Natsume first coined...otherwise the games would be called Farm Story like in Japan. So the name's changed, but the Bokujo Monogatari tradition lives strong at Marvelous. Natsume's trying to spur off their competing series with a familiar name as their strength.

From the amount of reviews and overall rating on the eShop, I don't think this is working well for Natsume. It has less than ~1000 reviews on the eShop and an average rating of 3.5 stars.


This is...really low for HM.
 
No, they own the IP, just not the "Harvest Moon" trademark, which Natsume first coined...otherwise the games would be called Farm Story like in Japan. So the name's changed, but the Bokujo Monogatari tradition lives strong at Marvelous. Natsume's trying to spur off their competing series with a familiar name as their strength.

Ah, ok, thanks for clarifying! That makes sense, as the game is still Bokujo Monogatari in JP. February and the release of SoS can't come soon enough. An announcement of a SoS title for the WiiU would also be fantastic (every Nintendo console has had at least 1 HM entry), but with the slow sales of the WiiU it seems unlikely to me. Hope I'm wrong.
 
From the amount of reviews and overall rating on the eShop, I don't think this is working well for Natsume. It has less than ~1000 reviews on the eShop and an average rating of 3.5 stars.


This is...really low for HM.
Still better than what I've seen for SEGA 3D Classics, and they're still getting localized.

I really don't care about The Lost Valley; if Natsume's team can improve the life-sim elements to be more competitive with Marvelous' games, then cool, I just want more Artdink games.
 
Only played the SNES one and that was fantastic. I've given the the Gamecube (?) one a try and just got completely turned off by the visuals and lack of charm from the original. Are there any that stay close to the original version?
 
Only played the SNES one and that was fantastic. I've given the the Gamecube (?) one a try and just got completely turned off by the visuals and lack of charm from the original. Are there any that stay close to the original version?

Back to Nature, 64, and FOMT are the best entries in the series, and IMO keep the original charm from the SNES version.
 
Absolutely love this series after I first played HM64 back in the day. Rune Factory has been pretty decent, but it still lacks the feel of HM.
 
Only played the SNES one and that was fantastic. I've given the the Gamecube (?) one a try and just got completely turned off by the visuals and lack of charm from the original. Are there any that stay close to the original version?

Back to Nature isn't really good at all. Don't listen to those recommending it. It's almost as bad as Save the Homeland and Tree of Tranquility.

Friends of Mineral Town is what you're looking for. (Though, A Wonderful Life and Magical Melody are both excellent as well.)

Animal Parade is also really good, surprisingly.
 
I loved my harvest moon games, to this day the GBA title (Welcome to Mineral Town or something something Mineral Town) is my favorite... but they have been supplanted by the Rune Factory titles which tend to do the farming better (more like the classic HM style) while also giving you far far far FAR more things to do. It's just a shame RF4 is likely the last one -_-.

Back to Nature isn't really good at all. Don't listen to those recommending it. It's almost as bad as Save the Homeland and Tree of Tranquility.

Friends of Mineral Town is what you're looking for. (Though, A Wonderful Life and Magical Melody are both excellent as well.)

Animal Parade is also really good, surprisingly.

Aside from A Wonderful Life, this person gets it. AWL is bogged down pretty heavily after the first segment of the game.
 
Back to Nature isn't really good at all. Don't listen to those recommending it. It's almost as bad as Save the Homeland and Tree of Tranquility.

Friends of Mineral Town is what you're looking for. (Though, A Wonderful Life and Magical Melody are both excellent as well.)

Animal Parade is also really good, surprisingly.

What? FoMT is essentially BTN with a slightly tweaked village, a few characters removed, some extra events and couple of added features. They are 90% the same exact game. With that said, FOMT is still great if you can get your hands on a copy and a GBA. Getting BTN on PSN is far easier and about as good.

You are clearly the dissenting opinion here when MOST people cite BTN as one of the best games in the series, time and time again.

Animal Parade is fine, if you want to lose out of a LOT of the original charm that made HM games great. It is still a HM game in its mechanics and core gameplay, but it feels nothing like the series originally did at its peak (SNES-BTN).

Magical Melody IMO strikes the best balance between things to do and customizability and keeping the same "feel" of Harvest Moon.
 
Not played BtN and probably never will as it's not on EU PSN afaik but I did check a video out and I'm well prepared to consider it as the worst ever. Isometric viewpoints in games controlled by a dpad are a crime and anyone who made them should be tried for torture.
 
Best console version:
Harvest Moon 64

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Best portable version:
Harvest Moon: Friends of Mineral Town

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(Or More Friends of Mineral Town if you want to play as a female)


There are other games in the series that are good...
But, those are the best, and the must-play ones.
 
Back to Nature isn't really good at all. Don't listen to those recommending it. It's almost as bad as Save the Homeland and Tree of Tranquility.

Friends of Mineral Town is what you're looking for. (Though, A Wonderful Life and Magical Melody are both excellent as well.)

Friends of Mineral Town is essentially a remake of Back To Nature so I don't know what you're talking about. Aside from the graphics I don't recall there being any major differences between the two.
 
Friends of Mineral Town is essentially a remake of Back To Nature so I don't know what you're talking about. Aside from the graphics I don't recall there being any major differences between the two.

I said the same thing. FoMT is pretty much, play-by-play, a remake of BTN, with some very slight modifications and additions. Very slight. So I don't know how someone can barge in and say "BTN sucks for FoMT is the best".
 
I've always been a massive fan of the series and I'm stoked for story of seasons. ANB was nice, but honestly it was hard to look at, and I'm not a huge fan of highly customized games. Let me make some decisions but i don't want to build a town, just feels lifeless.

My favorite artstyle for the series has to be Animal Parade. That game got 3d right. I'd love for them to bring back a similar style in a Wii U game, with more open ended and well tuned gameplay.
 
Friends of Mineral Town is essentially a remake of Back To Nature so I don't know what you're talking about. Aside from the graphics I don't recall there being any major differences between the two.

Friends of Mineral Town had all sorts of fun glitches like a couple untranslated Japanese lines of text, a broken text pointer, and a random line of German text because reasons. It was also simpler to control and the layout of the maps was much nicer/easier to navigate.
 
if I have access to a Wii U and a 3DS and want to scratch the Harvest Moon/RF itch, whats the best game available on those platforms?
 
This thread warms my heart. Harvest Moon is a fantastic series, and the 3DS is a great platform for the franchise - A New Beginning is the best proper Harvest Moon game since Magical Melody, and Rune Factory 4 is the best Harvest Moon game I've ever played bar none. It's a shame that The Lost Valley was a wash, but I'm hopeful for Story of Seasons.

But really guys and gals, buy Rune Factory 4 ASAP

EDIT: I had no idea they re-released Magical Melody on Wii. According to wikipedia though, the only changes they made were shoe-horned motion control and removing the option to play as a girl. Fucking lame.
 
This thread warms my heart. Harvest Moon is a fantastic series, and the 3DS is a great platform for the franchise - A New Beginning is the best proper Harvest Moon game since Magical Melody, and Rune Factory 4 is the best Harvest Moon game I've ever played bar none. It's a shame that The Lost Valley was a wash, but I'm hopeful for Story of Seasons.

But really guys and gals, buy Rune Factory 4 ASAP

EDIT: I had no idea they re-released Magical Melody on Wii. According to wikipedia though, the only changes they made were shoe-horned motion control and removing the option to play as a girl. Fucking lame.

No idea why they removed the girl option, too. It's a much better game on GC, but Wii is more accessible for people with a WiiU.

RF4 seems to be good, but I've only played about 10 hours of it. I really prefer HM's bigger focus on farming/chores, as weird as they may sound to some.
 
I played the very first Harvest Moon on SNES. Then I played the PS2 one. And the GameCube one. I think the SNES one is the only one I played to completion. I dunno why. I know the art style has become horrible lately though. Wish they went back to the original.

Edit: Ok, Story of Seasons is looking pretty good.
 
My first Harvest Moon was Friends of Mineral Town. Loved every second of the game. Charming graphics, lovely characters and fun events. All-around a great game.

My second was A Wonderful Life. It's vastly different and I didn't appreciate it at the time, but I think I'd like it more now. It still seems way too depressing for its own good, though, even if that may be the point. At least more memorable characters or events would've helped, as the idea is a good one.

My third was Harvest Moon for SNES via Virtual Console. I adore the graphics and general atmosphere - it's much more down-to-earth than Friends of Mineral Down. It's sadly not very packed with content and the actual farming is cumbersome due to limitations. Still, it's a charming title. Not the best entry point I'd say, though.

My fourth was Harvest Moon: A New Beginning. I was itching to play a new entry and this had received a lot of praise, so I figured I'd jump in. Turned out it's utter crap. At least Story of Seasons seems better.

My next step will be Rune Factory 4.
ive been playing Rune Factory every day for past month. I love it so damn much. Also my favorite Harvest Moon was 64.
 
I've never actually played the Rune Factory series.

When it was first announced, it just sounded like a joke/sounded "wrong," and I've just never been able to get over that >.>
 
I'm a fan of harvest moon games, but I haven't really played one since hero of leaf valley on PSP. It was a rather mediocre harvest moon game. The biggest problem is the slow ass movement. Everything just takes a long time. Your guy walks really slowly, the animations take forever. Its not particularly terrible, its just not ideal for a game like harvest moon where you're doing a lot of repetitive motions.

The other biggest issue I had with it was the 2 year deal. The story of the game goes that you have 2 years to get enough money to save the land from being made into a theme park or whatever it was. Once you get your crops going (animals didn't make very much money compared to crops which was another issue) its pretty hard to not make enough money in time. However once the two years is up, you pay the money, and the game forces you to marry, I lost motivation to keep playing. There's not a whole lot else to keep you playing.

Playing it kinda made me realize how stale the series has gotten. Before that I had played Island of Happiness and Magical Melody, which again were just okay. They were certainly more fleshed out than the barebones Hero of Leaf Valley but I dont think they didnt anything really interesring. I didnt like how the village in island of happiness was empty and you had to wait for people to move it. Magical Melody's new take on land was interesting, bit ultimately I ended up just making a farm the same as I always have in other games and costumization isn't really my thing.

My favorite two harvest moon games are probably friends of mineral town and a wonderful life, and I like them for completely different reasons. Friends of mineral felt like the textbook example of what a harvest moon game should have. It was my first harvest moon and there was plenty to keep me playing. A wonderful life on the other hand was just really relaxing. I loved the music, and I really liked the artstyle, something that they've avoided recreating since then, instead aiming for the bright colors and cheerful music. This isn't particularly bad, but there's something about AWL that made me feel like I was relaxing in a quaint village in the countryside.

I'm going to give the new 3ds game a shot when that comes out. I also need to try the rune factory series but the whole RPG aspect of it doesn't sound like something I'd want.
 
I've never actually played the Rune Factory series.

When it was first announced, it just sounded like a joke/sounded "wrong," and I've just never been able to get over that >.>
Id definitely give 4 a shot its best in series imo. I really cannot stop playing it and I haven't been this addicted to a game in awhile. I highly recommend it. Buuuut I still like 64 and friends of mineral time better. I know they are good but also that nostalgia is strong!
 
I'm a fan of harvest moon games, but I haven't really played one since hero of leaf valley on PSP. It was a rather mediocre harvest moon game. The biggest problem is the slow ass movement. Everything just takes a long time. Your guy walks really slowly, the animations take forever. Its not particularly terrible, its just not ideal for a game like harvest moon where you're doing a lot of repetitive motions.

The other biggest issue I had with it was the 2 year deal. The story of the game goes that you have 2 years to get enough money to save the land from being made into a theme park or whatever it was. Once you get your crops going (animals didn't make very much money compared to crops which was another issue) its pretty hard to not make enough money in time. However once the two years is up, you pay the money, and the game forces you to marry, I lost motivation to keep playing. There's not a whole lot else to keep you playing.

Playing it kinda made me realize how stale the series has gotten. Before that I had played Island of Happiness and Magical Melody, which again were just okay. They were certainly more fleshed out than the barebones Hero of Leaf Valley but I dont think they didnt anything really interesring. I didnt like how the village in island of happiness was empty and you had to wait for people to move it. Magical Melody's new take on land was interesting, bit ultimately I ended up just making a farm the same as I always have in other games and costumization isn't really my thing.

My favorite two harvest moon games are probably friends of mineral town and a wonderful life, and I like them for completely different reasons. Friends of mineral felt like the textbook example of what a harvest moon game should have. It was my first harvest moon and there was plenty to keep me playing. A wonderful life on the other hand was just really relaxing. I loved the music, and I really liked the artstyle, something that they've avoided recreating since then, instead aiming for the bright colors and cheerful music. This isn't particularly bad, but there's something about AWL that made me feel like I was relaxing in a quaint village in the countryside.

I'm going to give the new 3ds game a shot when that comes out. I also need to try the rune factory series but the whole RPG aspect of it doesn't sound like something I'd want.

Rune factory does have a distinctly different feel. Other than that, I agree with most of what you said, except for the fact that I loved MM because of all the features it brought to the table that made it a well fleshed out HM game.

But I'm with you on FoMT being essentially the perfect Harvest Moon. It's basically a remake of Back to Nature, my favorite game, with a few extra features. I love it. Those games were the peak. I hope SoS brings back that same charm and simplicity, with a lot more to do.
 
Man HM:64, HM:BTN, and HM: FOMT are some of the best games ever made. Shame what happened to the series. They definitely need to go back to 2D.
These are actually the only 3 games I've played in the series, looks like I picked well.
I also remember buying the ps2 one but I think it was a blue disk and my ps2 couldn't play those lol.
 
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