Dude, all the enemies early on are slow as shit. If you are running out of stamina, that's 100% your fault. I blame the other games for being so lenient that you can spam rolls with little consequence. It's part of the reason DS3 is such a cakewalk.
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Major bullshit moments in videogames
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Dude, all the enemies early on are slow as shit. If you are running out of stamina, that's 100% your fault. I blame the other games for being so lenient that you can spam rolls with little consequence. It's part of the reason DS3 is such a cakewalk.
So we're going to debate the amount of time you spend thwarting Cerberus' plans, and not the extent to which the organization is up to some seriously shady stuff?
You are very clearly missing the point. Not to mention absolutely incorrect in labeling Cerberus a rebel group. It's a terrorist organization operating on multiple planets and performing horrible experiments.
Skyward Sword was the first thing that came to mind:
"Here! Fight this boss again. What? It was boring? Fight it again, now with horseshit one hit kill powers!"
"The world is in peril, and I can help you save the day? Fuck you! Swim around this shitty minigame that is designed for people with quintuple-jointed wrist."
Typing this out gave me flashbacks to that shitty clown minigame.
Typing that out gave me flashbacks to that shitty minecart minigame.
"Here! Fight this boss again. What? It was boring? Fight it again, now with horseshit one hit kill powers!"
"The world is in peril, and I can help you save the day? Fuck you! Swim around this shitty minigame that is designed for people with quintuple-jointed wrist."
Typing this out gave me flashbacks to that shitty clown minigame.
Typing that out gave me flashbacks to that shitty minecart minigame.
AppleSeason
Member
5 minutes ago...
Final Fantasy X, killing with little effort "Bevelle's protector", then defeatead by a standard enemy that can remove two out of three party members and killing the only remaining one with no time to react. Now I have to repeat a boss battle and suck again a fuckton of unskippable cutscenes and fmv's thanks to no savepoints between the boss and said "normal" enemy,
Fuck this. I'm going to dread having to fight
very soon.
Final Fantasy X, killing with little effort "Bevelle's protector", then defeatead by a standard enemy that can remove two out of three party members and killing the only remaining one with no time to react. Now I have to repeat a boss battle and suck again a fuckton of unskippable cutscenes and fmv's thanks to no savepoints between the boss and said "normal" enemy,
Fuck this. I'm going to dread having to fight
Braska's Eon
Daffy Duck
Member
I'm starting to have a very strong dislike for uncharted 2 due to the amount of bullshit this game has.
The final boss fight is fucking bollocks, and I mean absolute bollocks.
God it's made me very mad.
The final boss fight is fucking bollocks, and I mean absolute bollocks.
God it's made me very mad.
Hitokiri03
Member
MGSV EP45
Fuck those tanks!
Fuck those tanks!
Krappadizzle
Member
The last boss fight in Quantum Break is a pretty recent example. Out of nowhere, the boss has instant one hit kill attacks. Very annoying.
I've memorized each and every enemy on that fucking mission until I finally perfected a run, every tank was fulton'd and so was every fucking soldier. Hated that mission to no end. Especially the fact that you couldn't leave it.
Theognosis
Member
LOL!!!
Omg I went thru this with King Boo so much. I still pulled first most of the time but when this shit happened, my heart...
Riposte
Member
A semi-optional boss fight (you don't have to win) in Trails in the Sky where the character you're fighting can chain-heal himself back to full health because he's so fast. The best solution is stack speed quartz on your characters, but the fight occurs while your party is split in half, meaning your other party may have your speed quartz. Probably still the best boss fight in the game, but rather luck-based if you put yourself in an awkward position.
MilHombreLobo
Member
Getting stuck in scenery and having to reload.
Most notably Fallout.
Rage quit activates.
Most notably Fallout.
Rage quit activates.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Just jump on the imprisoned's head and knock the seal down into it
Oh my god that video.
GamingOblivion
Banned
It's not an undodgable attack. This game is all about learning from your mistakes. Your mistake was getting all up in his taint while having no stamina.
And to bitch about this one boss having an "undodgable" attack with absolutely no startup is funny when you said that you played Bloodborne. Many Bloodborne bosses (like Blood-starved Beast, Bloodletting Beast, Abhorrent Beast, Pthumerian Elder, Laurence) have little to no windup with some of their attacks. In fact, I would argue that Oceiros is probably the most Bloodborne-type boss in DS3.
Speaking of SMT- any place where you're instantly dropped to the floor below you without any way to tell. Especially maze-like floors where seemingly 95% of the tiles are invisible pits. This leads to more random encounters (if you've played an SMT game, battles are draining and the encounter rate extremely high).
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Yeah that is a great example of a major bullshit moment. Can be game-breaking, hah.
John Kowalski
Banned
Charmed Misturu.
I wish someone would put a real bullet in her gun.
Ok maybe that was a bit too much.
I wish someone would put a real bullet in her gun.
Ok maybe that was a bit too much.
Chilli_Axe
Member
Like I said before, this attack is completely fine when he's using it from range https://gfycat.com/GargantuanGlamorousIggypops
but the problem is if he uses it while you're under him (pretty much where you need to be to deal good damage to him and to bait out his tail swipe) there literally is not time to dodge it. If you go through the gif I posted on the other page frame by frame, you can see that in the exact frame where he drops his right knee (before he even starts charging) my health bar is already empty. https://i.gyazo.com/ebe8180b950692ea9b77565662e829f4.png I agree that I should have managed my stamina better but that's not the issue here - I just don't think it's reasonable that a boss can instantly kill you for being positioned slightly to the side of where you should be for him to not do that one attack. I also didn't have any problems to this extent with fast attacks with any bloodborne bosses, however pthumerian descendant's sickle throw comes close.
(side note: the bandit knife is much better than the weapon I was using there, because swinging it costs so little stamina and with carthus rouge you can blitz through his health bar pretty quickly. I'm pretty sure the only reason I beat him at sl1 is because he didn't use that one attack while I was under him, but rather used one of the couple of other charging attacks where he gives you enough warning to get out of the way. Also you can mitigate the chances of him doing the undodgeable running attack if you stay slightly to the side of his leg instead of directly in front of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69XMmM0T5uU)
afreaknamedpete
Member
You should play some SMT. There's not one but two different forms of instant death, and having your protagonist die in pretty much all but the most recent SMT games instantly leads to a game over. This includes normal enemies as well as bosses, so you can just be wandering around and get insta-killed by a random roaming mob whenever they ambush you if you don't take precautions.
Then there's this asshole.
The final boss of SMT Strange Journey, with an attack called "MA" that instantly kills a random party member and steals their health. No prevention, no escape. Best you can do is equip an auto-revive ring but that only works once per battle and won't save you from a second lucky shot. The boss also more or less spams this as the health is whittled down.
MasterForm
Member
My roommates and I played a game where the winner had to finish out the story mode so we could unlock the other maps. This meant nobody really wanted to win. I somehow "won" with "lucky" dice rolls and bs bonus stars.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Technically not bullshit, but it sure does feel like it every time it happens:
Not helped that the gold you get back from a lost Wonder is almost never worth it.
As a more genuine example, I would like to call out this moment from Escape from Monkey Island (linked due to spoilers).
Now the thing is, I actually didn't mind Monkey Kombat that much when I was growing up, with it being one of the closest examples I've ever had to the whole 'draw up a map' experience, where I charted out all the various combinations and what beat what - even if it changes every time you play the game. But I took offense to the above, because it goes the conventions you've been taught prior to that point, and being honest, I'm not sure if the game ever really explains how you're meant to beat it within itself. Its a prime example of adventure game logic.
Not helped that the gold you get back from a lost Wonder is almost never worth it.
As a more genuine example, I would like to call out this moment from Escape from Monkey Island (linked due to spoilers).
Now the thing is, I actually didn't mind Monkey Kombat that much when I was growing up, with it being one of the closest examples I've ever had to the whole 'draw up a map' experience, where I charted out all the various combinations and what beat what - even if it changes every time you play the game. But I took offense to the above, because it goes the conventions you've been taught prior to that point, and being honest, I'm not sure if the game ever really explains how you're meant to beat it within itself. Its a prime example of adventure game logic.
Son Of Sparda
Member
Only if you play it like a Souls game.
GamingOblivion
Banned
He instantly killed you because your health bar doesn't exist. I'm sorry, but I see no issue with with what you're showing me. You admitted to not managing your stamina on an attack you were familiar with while playing a middle-to-end game boss at SL1. I have no sympathy for you and isn't the game's fault. I'm sure Miyazaki wasn't thinking of the people playing the game at SL1 when he made the boss.
This is literally a non-issue if you weren't SL1.
Currently playing Bravely Second and a number of late-game bosses have pure bullshit strategies. Lots of unavoidable/uncurable special status effects or attacks which can effectively level your whole party with nothing you can do about it. All you can do is simply beat them faster and pray they don't use it, and hopefully the next time you can setup such that when they hit certain HP thresholds you go all out.
innervision961
Member
Bloodborne post Rom fight... all of it lol
Fuck Mem Aleph. Everything else in Strange Journey is hard, but fair enough that you can beat it with some clever planning outside of the Sector E boss (possible to get hit with Stone on your MC with no way to avoid, although this is rare). Mem Aleph has two solutions.
1. Grind like ten levels. Due to how damage scaling works in the game where your level is compared with your foe's it's possible to run into Mem Aleph and be almost unable to actually hurt her at all, while she'll kill you in a single turn. Basically you can reach the final boss at around level 75, but the final boss is scaled for parties at around level 85-90. While this is a lot of SMT games to some extent, I'm pretty sure the effect is more pronounced than usual in Strange Journey.
2. Fight bullshit with bullshit. Use the password system to summon a bunch of super low level demons that reflect everything. Since reflected damage will deal out the amount of damage that would have been dealt to the original target, she dies in under a minute after hitting herself for thousands of damage multiple times.
I was just going to post it.
I was the saltiest person alive just an hour ago because of this stupid boss fight. Hell, all of Lost Izalith should be flooded with lava forever.
Frigid Outskirts [Dark Souls II - Crown of the Ivory King]
They respawn forever unlike the rest of the enemies in the game, only appear during snowstorms when the visibility is near 0 AND the biggest fuck you to the players is that the boss at the end
and you need to pass all over again the area for another chance at the boss.
The only area in the series I never cleared T_T
They respawn forever unlike the rest of the enemies in the game, only appear during snowstorms when the visibility is near 0 AND the biggest fuck you to the players is that the boss at the end
is a dual boss
The only area in the series I never cleared T_T
Mika! is that you!?
I felt he was pretty easy to beat with only Ground Gear but THERE are ways to prepare for that fight if you want to use Skells (like using the Squad Reward that re-fuel all your skells mid combat or constantly stagger the enemy so he can't use that attack.)
icecold1983
Member
the "press q for kills" game design in overwatch. blizzard is the first dev to make an online fps game little more than a glorified QTE fest
Frigid Outskirts [Dark Souls II - Crown of the Ivory King]
You'd think the B-team has learned from their mistakes in vanilla Dark Souls 2. But no, definitely not.
MegaManTrigger
Banned
All because of the shoddy localization when the game attempts to explain the battle system to you. All you need to do is increase Bravery or Faith depending on what class you use, and you'd be able to score high enough damage on Wiegraf to kill him in a few turns (double fisting max Monk took me 2 turns, whereas Velius took me 4).
Also, I agree with the save file bullshit, you're stuck if you didn't create multiple game files.
Frigid Outskirts [Dark Souls II - Crown of the Ivory King]
They respawn forever unlike the rest of the enemies in the game, only appear during snowstorms when the visibility is near 0 AND the biggest fuck you to the players is that the boss at the endand you need to pass all over again the area for another chance at the boss.is a dual boss
The only area in the series I never cleared T_T
There's a way to get past it quite easily. Summon 2 NPCs and run along the edge of the area on the left. Just run past everything and send the summons back home before going through the fog door. Easy as.
Fuck that place in every way, i've never raged in DS as much as i did at that place. The fucking worst of the worst in any Souls or Souls esque game i've ever played. That area absolutely cemented my disdain for DS2, utterly irredeemable.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Red iron twinblade or any weapon with high staggering power makes it almost trivial. Iron Passage is worse, to be honest.
I recoil in disgust every time my party gets oneshot by an enemy first strike encounter in Shin Megami Tensei IV. Like, come on, at least give me a chance game. Then again, that's just one of the disadvantages of the press turn system. Good thing is, you don't really loose a lot since you are constantly saving anyways playing that game.
Still, some major bullshit moments that luckily don't really subtract from my enjoyment of the game. Stuff was way worse in some of the older SMT games...
Still, some major bullshit moments that luckily don't really subtract from my enjoyment of the game. Stuff was way worse in some of the older SMT games...
Yeah. I went through it with a greatsword and didn't have much of an issue apart from beating the bosses solo. Iron passage is the most annoying section of the game though, that's for sure.
farmerboy
Member
Yep. Lazarevic can go fuck himself.
Earthpainting
Member
In Uncharted 2, if you try to sneak your way through an arena in the Himalayas with stealth, you get insta-killed as you try to the leave. Since you're pretty familiar with how the mechanics work in Chapter 15 or whatever, many of you may be tempted to take out these enemies with stealth-kills. If you're really fancy, you can even sneak through it without coming into contact with any one.
The game expects you to get caught though, so it can justify sending more waves of enemies your way. When it hasn't done this, a bunch of enemies spawn behind you, and shoot you down. I don't know if it was a bug, or if this was their fail-safe to ensure players would engage with weapons, but it feels pretty unfair and invalidated the viability of the stealth mechanics.
The game expects you to get caught though, so it can justify sending more waves of enemies your way. When it hasn't done this, a bunch of enemies spawn behind you, and shoot you down. I don't know if it was a bug, or if this was their fail-safe to ensure players would engage with weapons, but it feels pretty unfair and invalidated the viability of the stealth mechanics.
The worst point about that final boss fight is that the checkpointing does not take the skells into account. If your skells die in battle, you need to go back to your pad and reactivate them (sometimes for money). This is slightly annoying in normal gameplay, but it makes sense there. Where it doesn't make sense, is when you're locked in the final boss, where you can't escape the arena. If you die in that place, you can safely ignore the checkpoint it left you. You're going to have to re-load the save, since your loaded checkpoint did not give you your skell back, and you have no way of retrieving it. A pain in the arse.
This is also one that bugged me. I think I understand what they were trying to do. The boss battle evolved slightly every time, so you had to change tactics to adapt to it. The problem for me however was that I was unfortunate enough to use the method for a later iteration on the first encounter already. This made those boss battles identical for me, and made those small changes irrelevant. I'm sure I'm not alone in that.
RamaTheVoice
Member
I remember basically quitting the game right there when it first came out. So fucking sick of getting neck-snapped just before the final hit. Watched the ending on YT.
Then I bought the collection on PS4 and beat him on the first try.
Kinda lost interest after too many of these moments...
What game is this and what's happening here?