Zero_Phoenix said:Jesus Christ, enough with this 'superior version' BS... The game isn't even announced yet, let alone actually played by anyone...
Mamesj said:but it will be the superior version. as were all the other PC GTA games. I'm not trying to stick it to console owners (I bought a version day 1)...I'm just happy about 60fps, no vaseline filter, better control, true 720p and higher, mods etc.
Zero_Phoenix said:Except who's to say any of those things (other than resolution) will actually come true if the game does show up on PC?
The old GTA3* ports on PC had severe problems when uncapping the framerate, we've seen plenty of PC ports with broken control scenes, being able to turn off the filters remains in debate, and with the current situation with DLC, modding ability remains up in the air...
They were able to mod, massively multiplayer game modes into the previous GTA, which didn't even have any multiplayer AT ALL. I think the modders will do alright.Zero_Phoenix said:Except who's to say any of those things (other than resolution) will actually come true if the game does show up on PC?
The old GTA3* ports on PC had severe problems when uncapping the framerate, we've seen plenty of PC ports with broken control scenes, being able to turn off the filters remains in debate, and with the current situation with DLC, modding ability remains up in the air...
Cheeto said:They were able to mod, massively multiplayer game modes into the previous GTA, which didn't even have any multiplayer AT ALL. I think the modders will do alright.
Zero_Phoenix said:Except who's to say any of those things (other than resolution) will actually come true if the game does show up on PC?
The old GTA3* ports on PC had severe problems when uncapping the framerate, we've seen plenty of PC ports with broken control scenes, being able to turn off the filters remains in debate, and with the current situation with DLC, modding ability remains up in the air...
That's a good question. Maybe a better question is, why would anyone buy mods when you and your community can make and distribute them for free?Zero_Phoenix said:Why would they let users make mods for free when they can sell it to them?
Ysiadmihi said::lol :lol :lol
Oh dear.
Anyway, it doesn't matter if Rockstar allows mods, there *will* be mods.
Cheeto said:That's a good question. Maybe a better question is, why would anyone buy mods when you and your community can make and distribute them for free?
Zero_Phoenix said:Because distributing official mods / paid DLC is illegal
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Ysiadmihi said:I'll wait and see what mods come out for it. Not even the mighty PC can make this game fun.
Munin said:Jesus where did all this hate come from?
Zero_Phoenix said:Oh it's a bunch of BS that's been brewing up for quite a while. That shit annoys me almost as much as this speculation BS.
Really, because I didn't pay a dime for the 50 maps I got from Epic for UT2k4... or the maps for COD4... or the maps and game mode from Valve for Team Fortress 2... and the list goes on for miles.Zero_Phoenix said:First off, user made content and DLC are different things. You said why would people pay for mods? Because they want extra premium content. You can't get that stuff for free.
That's their problem.Zero_Phoenix said:Secondly, people will pay for content if there's no other way around it (other than piracy).
Ysiadmihi said:1. You don't think the PC version of GTA4 will be the superior version, though the PC versions of 3, VC and SA were by miles.
2. You think GTA4 was a good game and any complaints about it are BS.
I'm starting to see the problem here.
Cheeto said:Really, because I didn't pay a dime for the 50 maps I got from Epic for UT2k4... or the maps for COD4... or the maps and game mode from Valve for Team Fortress 2... etc etc etc
Zero_Phoenix said:1. Personally I'd like to know a little more about this PC version before deciding if it's better or worse than the console versions. Many things have changed since GTASA was released and these aren't PS2 ports anymore. Personally I think anyone who assumes any version of a game will be made and that it will be the best version is a complete fool.
Zero_Phoenix said:2. Not what I said at all, but nice strawman attack. It was a GREAT game, but there are many valid complaints about the game. I can't stand people who slander a game just because it was highly rated. You know there are people who actually say the controls in GTA4 were WORSE than GTA3, VC, and SA on consoles?
Ysiadmihi said:It stunk
Zero_Phoenix said:Except who's to say any of those things (other than resolution AND FRAMERATE) will actually come true if the game does show up on PC?
Ysiadmihi said:I have doubts it will be made. I have no doubts that if it is, it will be the best version easily. You're just holding out hope it will end up being a bad port it sounds like.
GTA4 was not a great game. I'm not slandering it because it was highly rated, I'm calling it what it is because I had such high hopes for the game after the godliness that was San Andreas and was served a steaming pile of shit.
It's not "BS" as you say. Plenty of people were truly disappointed with and didn't like GTA4. It stunk and I didn't like it.
Chiggs said:Going by the history of the franchise on the pc, it will most likely happen.
I can't say I ran into any problem with my copy of SA (Hot Coffee original).
Zero_Phoenix said:I'm not holding out hope for anything, I'm being realistic about the entire thing.
Zero_Phoenix said:Do you really think GTA4 is a steaming pile of shit or is that hyperbole?
Ysiadmihi said:Fair enough, but the chances of screwing up the PC port are so incredibly low that I find worrying about it silly. They'd have to screw up a ton to take away the advantages of mouse aim and mods alone.
Ysiadmihi said:It was a bad game imo. It felt like a chore to finish and I had no desire to go back to it after I beat it. There was barely any mission variety, tons of useless additions (internet? car wash? hanging out with friends? who gives a fuck?), some cutscenes before missions were WAY too fucking long (implying that story is much more important to Rockstar than actual gameplay) and the environments were just plain boring. Had VC and SA not been released I may have felt differently, but those games showed what Rockstar was capable of and this just ended up being a half-assed effort on their part.
Jacobi said:Wow@all the GTA4 hate, just unbelievable, especially after seeing all the hype going on on GAF
DEO3 said:Lovin' dis.
Every big 360 game comes out on the PC eventually, usually with better visuals and a much more robust modding community. From Oblivion to Mass Effect, from
Devil May Cry to Assassin's Creed, Gears of War, Grid, even Viva Pinata, and now GTA4. It's one of the major reasons I decided to upgrade my PC last month instead of buying a 360, and it looks like I made the right decision.
Chiggs said:Agreed. As an avid pc gamer, I personally love getting these console ports. Here's to Far Cry 2 and Mercs 2.
DEO3 said:Every big 360 game comes out on the PC eventually, usually with better visuals and a much more robust modding community. From Oblivion to Mass Effect, from
Devil May Cry to Assassin's Creed, Gears of War, Grid, even Viva Pinata, and now GTA4. It's one of the major reasons I decided to upgrade my PC last month instead of buying a 360, and it looks like I made the right decision.
Zero_Phoenix said:I mean really, PC, 360, and PS3 share like 85% of all games, and the rest are exclusives. However, saying Far Cry 2 and Oblivion were EVER console (only) games is a big mistake.
Jacobi said:Wow@all the GTA4 hate, just unbelievable, especially after seeing all the hype going on on GAF
Pimpbaa said:They are all a bunch of fucking gaf sheep. Hating on something just because everyone else is hating on it. The game IS one of the better games this year. Can't wait to see the PC version.
Pimpbaa said:They are all a bunch of fucking gaf sheep. Hating on something just because everyone else is hating on it. The game IS one of the better games this year. Can't wait to see the PC version.
Crime Boss:This man has insulted my dog go and kill his entire family.
Niko:Sure
Dabanton said:A higher resolution or mods which are going to take an age to come out and will mostly be shit won't fix what is a very flawed experience.
:lol People can justify anything in life.aznpxdd said:Yup, PC always ends up with the superior versions, even if it means we have to wait a bit. I actually prefer it that way, I hate being caught in the launch hype.
MWS Natural said::lol People can justify anything in life.
Well, all the other GTA games were recently released on Steam. I guess it would depend on how well they did.nestea said:So... what are the chances this would be on steam? Slim to none?
I'd say better than 90%nestea said:So... what are the chances this would be on steam? Slim to none?
nestea said:So... what are the chances this would be on steam? Slim to none?