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Man punches woman into a coma over parking space

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Satyamdas said:
"I wish I just let her hit me," Fuller told the Daily News on Sunday. "It was out of reflex, just a reaction that went the wrong way,"

"I am very very sorry for the situation she is going through right now, and I am hoping for a speedy recovery"

Doesn't sound like "whatevs" to me. I'm pretty sure the guy realizes she might die. Does he need to get on his knees with tears streaming down his face for you to believe he feels remorse? Or would you take that kind of groveling as insincere or evidence of his guilt. Honestly, the guy probably feels terrible and there is nothing he can say or do that will appease anyone.

Don't apologize enough = OMG you're so casual about this terrible thing
Apologize profusely = See, he knows he's guilty / Thou doth protest too much
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He didn't sound sincere in the slightest, I feel judging by what he said and the manner he said it, he just thinks she'll get better eventually. The fact he fled the scene seals the deal, he just doesn't give a shit.
 
lexi said:
He didn't sound sincere in the slightest, I feel judging by what he said and the manner he said it, he just thinks she'll get better eventually. The fact he fled the scene seals the deal, he just doesn't give a shit.
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Satyamdas said:
I don't think leaving is villainous if you are going to be swarmed by an angry boyfriend or mob, I think it is prudent.

So according to Oscar, he tells her to leave from his car, she refuses, he gets out and she gets in his face and escalates the situation with punches and scratches or whatever. He punches her once to get her off him, looks over and sees an angry boyfriend approaching, and he is now supposed to sit there and calmly discuss the event with this angry guy? He would surely have every opportunity to present his case for self defense. I'm quite certain the boyfriend would be ever so eager to listen to his side of the story.

Leaving in this case is not a bitch move, it is a smart move. If it was only the two of them and he knocked her out and was able to remain at the scene without the threat of the angry boyfriend/onlookers, then I would agree leaving her there is an act of terrible cowardice and detestable.
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If he had stayed and had to fight the b/f that would have made the situation even worse. There is no "win" for him in this situation. It's just bad all around. It's evident and I'm not at all surprised by this but a lot of people here don't seem to have been in a fight before. It's hard think things through with a fist incoming.
 
People who stand in parking spots "saving" them for other people are jerks. It sucks she is in a coma but she probably felt that parking space was entitled to her since she was standing there even though there was a car waiting to be parked there. I don't think he should have punched her but how do we know if he hadn't tried to pick her up and move her, that she wouldn't have just yelled rape or something?

This sounds to me like the case of a guy who has been driving around way too long trying to find a spot, finally does, and then runs into a woman who feels very empowered about ownership of a public parking space.
 
Jury-GAF out in full force. The courts will decide. None of this "Well she's only 100 lbs how can this be" crap necessary. There will be video eventually. If she punched first and he didn't keep kicking her while she was down he'll likely get off. You don't go throwing punches at people unless you can handle retaliation.
 
what a douche! he said he acted in self defense.

I hope he gets punched in the face in jail for punching a 100 lbs woman

BigNastyCurve said:
Jury-GAF out in full force. The courts will decide. None of this "Well she's only 100 lbs how can this be" crap necessary. There will be video eventually. If she punched first and he didn't keep kicking her while she was down he'll likely get off. You don't go throwing punches at people unless you can handle retaliation.
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yeah right; a man like that could easily restrain a woman that size just by "holding" her arms not a punch to the head/face area

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that news story was so badly set up; typical ABC morning crap
 
gutter_trash said:
yeah right; a man like that could easily restrain a woman that size just by "holding" her arms not a punch to the head/face area
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I know 100lb women that would break your arms and rip you a new asshole. Stop white knighting her she obviously doesn't need it.

She didn't not deserve it, but maybe she is used to bloke just taking a few slaps.

Until we see the video it is hard to tell if he over reacted and even if he did it was still an accident if she hit her head.

Let's call off the posse eh?
 
Vagabundo said:
I know 100lb women that would break your arms and rip you a new asshole. Stop white knighting her she obviously doesn't need it.

She didn't not deserve it, but maybe she is used to bloke just taking a few slaps.

Until we see the video it is hard to tell if he over reacted and even if he did it was still an accident if she hit her head.

Let's call off the posse eh?
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I seriously doubt that this particular 100 lbs woman is that woman who is trained.

my GF does Akido and she is trained to never throw to first strike and trained to avoid and restrain
 
She's 100 pounds, he didn't have to hit her to defend himself. Granted, maybe one punch is all it took, but jesus, what can a 100 lb woman do to you?
 
Sorry but people standing in parking spots deserve to be punched to death. You don't know until you've experienced one. YOU CANT SAVE A FUCKING SPOT FOR SOMEONE ELSE BY STANDING IN IT.
 
SmokyDave said:
I'd rather that men changed their perceptions and used chivalry as a reason not to knock a womans block off.
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Chivalry doesn't exist in New York. It's too packed for that.

Given that the dude already has a history of assault, I don't think he'll be walking out of this one.
 
gutter_trash said:
what a douche! he said he acted in self defense.

I hope he gets punched in the face in jail for punching a 100 lbs woman



yeah right; a man like that could easily restrain a woman that size just by "holding" her arms not a punch to the head/face area

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that news story was so badly set up; typical ABC morning crap
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He didn't even need to restrain her.
The natural instinct when being under attack is to curl up, protect yourself and possibly push your assailant away.

You don't "instinctually" lash out with a right hook.

TheOrangeKid007 said:
People who stand in parking spots "saving" them for other people are jerks. It sucks she is in a coma but she probably felt that parking space was entitled to her since she was standing there even though there was a car waiting to be parked there. I don't think he should have punched her but how do we know if he hadn't tried to pick her up and move her, that she wouldn't have just yelled rape or something?

This sounds to me like the case of a guy who has been driving around way too long trying to find a spot, finally does, and then runs into a woman who feels very empowered about ownership of a public parking space.
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Exactly, he probably didn't even consider the option of leaving and thought that hitting her was the only way of dealing with the situation rather than just running away if he feared his life or health.
 
I came this close to punching a woman into a coma for leaving her shopping cart in the line to the register while she went to get the other half of her shopping list.
 
^^that would irritate me too but then I would go into a different line

people do stupid things over the smallest things.........geeez
 
Shanadeus said:
He didn't even need to restrain her.
The natural instinct when being under attack is to curl up, protect yourself and possibly push your assailant away.

You don't "instinctually" lash out with a right hook.
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Instinct is fight or flight not turtle and nudge.
 
gutter_trash said:
I seriously doubt that this particular 100 lbs woman is that woman who is trained.

my GF does Akido and she is trained to never throw to first strike and trained to avoid and restrain
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Not all martial artists follow a code. I know a few kick boxing girls that like to start fights. I'm not claiming that this girl could defend herself, but - if what we are told is true (throwing 4/5 swings - she seems awfully violent for a wall flower.

Maybe the guy could have risked himself to restrain her - no guarantees there, he could have gotten an ass whooping.

Maybe he should have just run, seems like the sensible course of action here, but I'll bet a bottom dollar that there are a lot on GAF who might just react to a situation like that with a punch/push/slap of their own and regret it later.
 
jett said:
If she hit first then sucks to be her.
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Exactly. It's already a tense situation probably with a lot of swearing/name calling and stuff going on. If someone hit me (that wasn't a child who can't control their emotions), then guess what? They're getting hit back. Fuck them for resorting to violence first. Just because you're a 100 lb woman doesn't give you the right to hit someone without any fear of retaliation whatsoever.
 
I love the people saying that a 100lb. woman couldn't do any damage. Women fight dirty as fuck, and even if you grab their wrists and restrain them they're still likely to kick or bite if they really want to hurt you.

So far as I'm concerned, if someone physically attacks me I should be under no compulsion to measure my response based on their size and fighting ability.
 
Women fought for and gained equal rights as a human. Their gender should not come into play in this situation. Women somehow have this notion that they can go around slapping and hitting any male they deem fit. Sorry, but women aren't a delicate snowflake anymore. They have equal rights and if a 100 pound women did attack first, then everything that has happened to her needed to happen.

Just because women differ in natural physique does not give them the right to attack.
 
badcrumble said:
Why am I not surprised that this thread turned into "bitch probably deserved it" within a few pages?
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Because not everyone unthinkingly assumes women are delicate, innocent flowers who bring only good into the world.
 
racooon said:
Because not everyone unthinkingly assumes women are delicate, innocent flowers who bring only good into the world.
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If a man stood in that parking spot and slapped the guy he wouldn't deserve to get beaten into a coma either, idiot.
 
Keepthechange said:
Instinct is fight or flight not turtle and nudge.
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You will instinctual curl up to protect your body if someone try to hit you, and maybe you flail at them a bit on pure instinct.

But you don't accidentally hit someone so they're lifted off the ground unless you're a muscle monster (which this person doesn't look like he is), that require a more controlled retaliatory action in the form of a conscious act of hitting someone back.

He could have pushed her, he could have backed away but he didn't - he instead chose to punch her instead.

In this case he could have backed off knowing that the woman wouldn't proceed to follow him as she was guarding a parking space.
 
VitaminApple said:
Women fought for and gained equal rights as a human. Their gender should not come into play in this situation. Women somehow have this notion that they can go around slapping and hitting any male they deem fit. Sorry, but women aren't a delicate snowflake anymore. They have equal rights and if a 100 pound women did attack first, then everything that has happened to her needed to happen.
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What crap. When did this equal rights thing happen exactly, and for who? Income inequality alone is rife in the first-world, let alone the gross inequality that happens everywhere else.

I'm not saying that she or any woman has carte blanche to attack and not expect retaliation, but this crap about equal rights has got to stop.
 
lexi said:
What crap. When did this equal rights thing happen exactly, and for who? Income inequality alone is rife in the first-world, let alone the gross inequality that happens everywhere else.

I'm not saying that she or any woman has carte blanche to attack and not expect retaliation, but this crap about equal rights has got to stop.
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You're saying it needs to stop because women aren't legally equal?
 
VitaminApple said:
You're saying it needs to stop because women aren't legally equal?
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I'm saying people and particularly some men seem to have the deluded belief that women have 100% equal rights so therefore chivalry can rightfully die, they can expect to be hit, etc. It is not true.
 
badcrumble said:
If a man stood in that parking spot and slapped the guy he wouldn't deserve to get beaten into a coma either, idiot.
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He pretty clearly didn't intend to put her in a coma. Idiot yourself.
 
VitaminApple said:
You're saying it needs to stop because women aren't legally equal?
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I think he's saying that you're pulling a stupid smug "how d'ya like your feminism NOW, bitches, bet you wish you'd stayed in the kitchen" sort of move, which is what it looks like to me.
racooon said:
He pretty clearly didn't intend to put her in a coma. Idiot yourself.
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Doesn't matter. It's clearly vastly excessive force, and he'll justly go to jail for this and after that it'll follow him around to every job he ever applies for. That won't fix her brain, but it's something.
 
racooon said:
He pretty clearly didn't intend to put her in a coma. Idiot yourself.
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The question is if he intended to punch her, if he did then it doesn't matter if he didn't intend to put her in a coma.
 
badcrumble said:
I think he's saying that you're pulling a stupid smug "how d'ya like your feminism NOW, bitches, bet you wish you'd stayed in the kitchen" sort of move, which is what it looks like to me.
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She. But yes, that is what I'm getting at.
 
lexi said:
I'm saying people and particularly some men seem to have the deluded belief that women have 100% equal rights so therefore chivalry can rightfully die, they can expect to be hit, etc. It is not true.
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And I would agree with them. Women aren't delicate snowflakes anymore.
 
VitaminApple said:
And I would agree with them. Women aren't delicate snowflakes anymore.
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There's a reasonable expectation of holding back if you are way more physically capable than another person, no matter if they were at fault.
 
badcrumble said:
I think he's saying that you're pulling a stupid smug "how d'ya like your feminism NOW, bitches, bet you wish you'd stayed in the kitchen" sort of move, which is what it looks like to me.Doesn't matter. It's clearly vastly excessive force, and he'll justly go to jail for this and after that it'll follow him around to every job he ever applies for. That won't fix her brain, but it's something.
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It's not clear at all as we don't know the circumstances. You're making a lot of assumptions here.

badcrumble said:
If a man stood in that parking spot and slapped the guy he wouldn't deserve to get beaten into a coma either, idiot.
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If a man started a fight and then went into a coma as a result of the fight he would be partly, if not wholly, responsible.

It might no be what she deserved, but she should have foreseen that her actions could result in her own injury.
 
Vagabundo said:
It's not clear at all as we don't know the circumstances. You're making a lot of assumptions here.
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Well, we know there was an altercation and the woman is in a coma. I think it's safe to say she didn't slip and fall on a banana peel.
 
CrankyJay said:
There's a reasonable expectation of holding back if you are way more physically capable than another person, no matter if they were at fault.
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A human should be treated as an equal, no matter if they are a 100 pound women or a 300 pound man, or even a 300 pound woman.

Women want chivalry, but they also want to be treated equally. You can't have both.
 
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