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[badcrumble]

It's not clear at all as we don't know the circumstances. You're making a lot of assumptions here.

We know that the man seems unhurt and says nothing about her ever pulling a weapon on him, and that she's permanently damaged. I think that's more than enough to conclude that he used excessive force.

A human should be treated as an equal, no matter if they are a 100 pound women or a 300 pound man, or even a 300 pound woman.

Women want chivalry, but they also want to be treated equally. You can't have both.

So I was right, then. You're basically saying "you should've stayed in the kitchen and maybe this wouldn't have happened to you." Horrible.

 

[Vagabundo]

Well, we know there was an altercation and the woman is in a coma. I think it's safe to say she didn't slip and fall on a banana peel.

Your assuming she was beaten into a coma. In a fight people can be pushed or slip and it can result in head trauma.

We know that the man seems unhurt and says nothing about her ever pulling a weapon on him, and that she's permanently damaged. I think that's more than enough to conclude that he used excessive force.

No it is not.

 

[CrankyJay]

A human should be treated as an equal, no matter if they are a 100 pound women or a 300 pound man, or even a 300 pound woman.

Women want chivalry, but they also want to be treated equally. You can't have both.

I would say the same thing if the altercation was between a healthy male and an 80 year old male. There's no acceptable reason to put someone significantly weaker into a coma. You can join the rest of the idiots that reside in Black/White GAF logic-land.

 

[JudgeN]

I bet she did attack him first. A lot of women believe they can hit men anytime they want with no repercussions. Not saying that is any excuse for putting her in the hospital though.

This is how I feel, just because your a women you don't get to do whatever the fuck you want because you think someone won't put you in your "place" (and I place I don't mean your a women so get back into the kitchen. I mean stop being a fucking douche).

Guy shouldn't have put her into a coma, now if it just 1 hit KO then I can see it being a self defense but if he just pummeled her he went way way to far.

 

[CrankyJay]

Your assuming she was beaten into a coma. In a fight people can be pushed or slip and it can result in head trauma.

Yes, and the fault lies with the person who did the pushing. That's causality.

 

[oneHeero]

If the video shows the chick raging on the guy and he hit her once, o well for her, bad luck.

lol@women gaf and chivalry, since when did chivalry include dumbass broads who hit other people for a parking space? Maybe you need to read the definition again.

Chivalry: the sum of the ideal qualifications of a knight, including courtesy, generosity, valor, and dexterity in arms.

And is it true the guy is only 140 lbs? Really? Because all this nonsense that he used all this force and the guy is only 40 lbs heavier? You guys make it seem like he's a UFC fighter knocking out random ppl on the streets.

Until we have video I side with the guy, I wouldve done the samething in his situation. It happens to often that women think they can go off with no consequences for their actions. She could have kicked him in the nuts (she didnt) orshe could have poked his eye out with her nails (which she didnt), regardless he didnt know she wouldnt have done that and punched her.
But a 140lb man (unless trained) is not knocking ot a 100lb girl with 1 hit. Obviously the fall must have played a part a and I dont think he should be responsible for that.

If the video shows otherwise, then the dude shall rot in prison.

 

[Vagabundo]

Yes, and the fault lies with the person who did the pushing. That's causality.

If someone came up and pushed her out of the blue, yeah maybe, but we're talking about someone who was physically assaulted by someone else and that person was injured as a result of her own actions.

 

[CrankyJay]

And is it true the guy is only 140 lbs? Really? Because all this nonsense that he used all this force and the guy is only 40 lbs heavier? You guys make it seem like he's a UFC fighter knocking out random ppl on the streets.

Since when is strength measued in weight? Bruce Lee at one point was 140 pounds. Do you think that would be a fair fight between him and an average joe who weighed 140 pounds?

 

[BankaiZaraki]

I don't really feel bad for the woman IF it was indeed self-defense like the man is claiming.

 

[CrankyJay]

If someone came up and pushed her out of the blue, yeah maybe, but we're talking about someone who was physically assaulted by someone else and that person was injured as a result of her own actions.

I guess we will have to wait and see the video if it is released to the public.

 

[Vagabundo]

Since when is strength measued in weight? Bruce Lee at one point was 140 pounds. Do you think that would be a fair fight between him and an average joe who weighed 140 pounds?

lol wow.

I agree and so the 100lbs woman doesn't get a free pass.

She attacked, he responded and she got injured.

The trail will look at the circumstances to see if there was excessive force in his self-defense.

I guess we will have to wait and see the video if it is released to the public.

We of course all this could change depending on what's in the video. We only have his statements to go on right now.

 

[VitaminApple]

I would say the same thing if the altercation was between a healthy male and an 80 year old male. There's no acceptable reason to put someone significantly weaker into a coma. You can join the rest of the idiots that reside in Black/White GAF logic-land.

So you're saying a woman of can go around and hit males without repercussions?

 

[badcrumble]

So you're saying a woman of can go around and hit males without repercussions?

oh my god you are so dumb

 

[CrankyJay]

So you're saying a woman of can go around and hit males without repercussions?

No.

 

[oneHeero]

Since when is strength measued in weight? Bruce Lee at one point was 140 pounds. Do you think that would be a fair fight between him and an average joe who weighed 140 pounds?

lmfao, thanks for making my fucken point.

Also I included an answer regardless

But a 140lb man (unless trained)

EDIT: To clarify the point that people on the guys side are trying to make is that just cuz shes 100lbs means nothing. Its NY she could have taken self-defense classes, couldve kicked him in the nuts or whatever.

Again, if video shows otherwise than he should rot. But from what we have and how women typically behave when it comes to physical altercations (throwing the first hit) then I'll believe the guy for now.

 

[VitaminApple]

No.

Then you're not actually proving your point in any sense.

 

[Slayer-33]

Why do you guys keep writing as if the guy WANTED to put her in a coma deliberately? The fuck?


Her face wasn't battered, it indeed LOOKS as if he had punched her only once and she got K.N.F.O.


Hopefully they do find some video to see what happened..

What has weight got to do with anything?

She's a woman. 100lbs is frail. One punch could easily knock out a woman of that kind of weight.

Any kind of punch can knock out this guy too

 

[-viper-]

If the video shows the chick raging on the guy and he hit her once, o well for her, bad luck.

lol@women gaf and chivalry, since when did chivalry include dumbass broads who hit other people for a parking space? Maybe you need to read the definition again.



And is it true the guy is only 140 lbs? Really? Because all this nonsense that he used all this force and the guy is only 40 lbs heavier? You guys make it seem like he's a UFC fighter knocking out random ppl on the streets.

Until we have video I side with the guy, I wouldve done the samething in his situation. It happens to often that women think they can go off with no consequences for their actions. She could have kicked him in the nuts (she didnt) orshe could have poked his eye out with her nails (which she didnt), regardless he didnt know she wouldnt have done that and punched her.
But a 140lb man (unless trained) is not knocking ot a 100lb girl with 1 hit. Obviously the fall must have played a part a and I dont think he should be responsible for that.

If the video shows otherwise, then the dude shall rot in prison.

What has weight got to do with anything?

She's a woman. 100lbs is frail. One punch could easily knock out a woman of that kind of weight.

 

[toxicgonzo]

I'll wait 'til I see video footage of the fight before judging.

 

[POWERSPHERE]

Punched an 100-pound woman


That can't be grammatically correct, right?

 

[richiek]

Why am I not surprised that this thread turned into "bitch probably deserved it" within a few pages?

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[daviyoung]

Punched an 100-pound woman


That can't be grammatically correct, right?

Only if pronounced in a Cockney accent

 

[oneHeero]

What has weight got to do with anything?

She's a woman. 100lbs is frail. One punch could easily knock out a woman of that kind of weight.

And a kick to the nuts from 100lbs to a 140lb guy wouldnt be as life changing?

EDIT: To clarify the point that people on the guys side are trying to make is that just cuz shes 100lbs means nothing. Its NY she could have taken self-defense classes, couldve kicked him in the nuts or whatever.

Again, if video shows otherwise than he should rot. But from what we have and how women typically behave when it comes to physical altercations (throwing the first hit) then I'll believe the guy for now.

 

[Emerson]

If he did in fact pummel her relentlessly, which I would guess is probably the case, then he should go to prison. But if it was a one or two punch, or slip and fall kind of thing, then I say good. I don't know the woman but I bet you she was one of these girls who goes around acting like a bitch because she "knows" nothing will come of it.

 

[reggieandTFE]

I personally wouldn't want to wait until I've been attacked. If I can see someone clearly coming at me, I'm not going to wait to get struck before I do anything.


If it was one punch and she fell, I don't think that's disproportionate. I'm going to estimate enough force to end the threat and keep me safe - with me leaving on the "just to be sure" side of force. But as I said later in my post, if he hit her multiple times after any threat was over, then we have a problem.


How does he know that? How does he know she isn't aware of ways to neutralize larger opponents? What if she kicked him in the nuts? He is now temporarily more vulnerable to her allowing her to do real damage. Hell, the punch/kick to the nuts alone is enough to do serious and life-altering damage. You don't need to be equal size to cause stuff like that. Does he know her mental state? What if she is fucking batshit insane and unstable? How could he possibly know any of that?

Well what if he was getting coming at her and that's why she swung her fucking purse at him? The misogyny in this thread is disgusting. You guys need to get laid and stop hating women.

 

[Shanadeus]

If he did in fact pummel her relentlessly, which I would guess is probably the case, then he should go to prison. But if it was a one or two punch, or slip and fall kind of thing, then I say good. I don't know the woman but I bet you she was one of these girls who goes around acting like a bitch because she "knows" nothing will come of it.

That's silly.

He could have pushed her away if he was fearing his life or health. It doesn't matter if he threw just one or two punches if it was the first thing he did - which according to his own statements seem to be the case.

IF he had pushed her away, ran away and was followed by the woman who continued to hit him then yes, a punch or two would have been justified.

 

[richiek]

And a kick to the nuts from 100lbs to a 140lb guy wouldnt be as life changing

Why are people using the "kick in the nuts" defense when none of the reports indicates she did anything of the sort?

 

[MWS Natural]

In Idealsville perhaps. She's not going to learn much in a coma, and the dude's facing jail time.

Oh yes I can guarantee she will think twice before confronting someone again after getting knocked the fuck out.

If a man stood in that parking spot and slapped the guy he wouldn't deserve to get beaten into a coma either, idiot.

Why do people keep saying she only slapped him when the only information we have right now, according to his lawyer, is that it was a full on attack:
Fuller, he said, was polite, asking the woman from the seat of his Plymouth Voyager to step out of the spot on E. 14th St. She refused, and when Fuller got out of his vehicle, she socked him in the eye, then hit him several more times

 

[Outlaw]

If he has a good lawyer that can prove self defense more power to him. It's not like there is a punching power meter you can set to "Stun", "Bruise" or "Coma". If she attacked him and he felt his life was threatened he has the right to defend himself.

You're a dumb ass. Hopefully someone will kick your ass into coma in the future. You deserve it for that type of thinking.

 

[racooon]

There's two sides to this debate. One side is 'this is clearly not what the man intended to happen, putting him in jail doesn't solve anything', the other is 'EVIL MAN PUT HIM IN JAIL THE FOUL MONSTER.'

 

[C Jones]

Oh yes I can guarantee she will think twice before confronting someone again after getting knocked the fuck out.




Why do people keep saying she only slapped him when the only information we have right now, according to his lawyer, is that it was a full on attack:
Fuller, he said, was polite, asking the woman from the seat of his Plymouth Voyager to step out of the spot on E. 14th St. She refused, and when Fuller got out of his vehicle, she socked him in the eye, then hit him several more times

What was the purpose of him getting out of the vehicle?

 

[Shanadeus]

There's two sides to this debate. One side is 'this is clearly not what the man intended to happen, putting him in jail doesn't solve anything', the other is 'EVIL MAN PUT HIM IN JAIL THE FOUL MONSTER.'

Yeah...

... that's not at all what's happening here.

 

[richiek]

Why do people keep saying she only slapped him when the only information we have right now, according to his lawyer, is that it was a full on attack:
Fuller, he said, was polite, asking the woman from the seat of his Plymouth Voyager to step out of the spot on E. 14th St. She refused, and when Fuller got out of his vehicle, she socked him in the eye, then hit him several more times

Oh yeah, we can definitely take his word that he was polite. :rolleyes

 

[MWS Natural]

You're a dumb ass. Hopefully someone will kick your ass into coma in the future. You deserve it for that type of thinking.

 

[SmokyDave]

What was the purpose of him getting out of the vehicle?

She was standing in a parking space. Obviously she needed some fucking champ to teach her a lesson.

 

[CrankyJay]

Why do people keep saying she only slapped him when the only information we have right now, according to his lawyer, is that it was a full on attack:
Fuller, he said, was polite, asking the woman from the seat of his Plymouth Voyager to step out of the spot on E. 14th St. She refused, and when Fuller got out of his vehicle, she socked him in the eye, then hit him several more times

Please cite your source on this because I can't seem to find this text in the original article.

 

[oneHeero]

Why are people using the "kick in the nuts" defense when none of the reports indicates she did anything of the sort?

why are we saying his intent was to knock her out when he said it wasnt?
Why are we saying she deserves chivalry when she clearly doesnt
Why did she throw several punches first (from article)
Why are people saying he pummelled her when the article doesnt say that>?

 

[Outlaw]

You ain't scaring anyone.

 

[chris121580]

If she tried to hit first, well too bad. That's called self defense and the fact that she is in a coma is pure badluck.

Give me a break. I would never be in this situation to begin with because fighting over a parking spot is flat out retarded but if I was and a woman swung at me, I may catch her arm or block the punch but I would never ever punch back. It's never ok to hit a woman no matter what the circumstances are

 

[VitaminApple]

Why do people keep saying she only slapped him when the only information we have right now, according to his lawyer, is that it was a full on attack:
Fuller, he said, was polite, asking the woman from the seat of his Plymouth Voyager to step out of the spot on E. 14th St. She refused, and when Fuller got out of his vehicle, she socked him in the eye, then hit him several more times

If that is the case, then, she should go to jail after waking up from the comma and the victim [Fuller] should be labeled as an American Hero and keeper of justice and equality.

 

[Kettch]

How come the man's weight isn't listed? He looks pretty tiny in that video.

If he's 115 pounds, does it change anyone's opinion?

 

[oneHeero]

Please cite your source on this because I can't seem to find this text in the original article.

Sure no problem, it was posted by Devolution.

Fuller, he said, was polite, asking the woman from the seat of his Plymouth Voyager to step out of the spot on E. 14th St. She refused, and when Fuller got out of his vehicle, she socked him in the eye, then hit him several more times.



Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_...n_spat_over_a_parking_spot.html#ixzz1GCumOeyP

 

[MWS Natural]

What was the purpose of him getting out of the vehicle?

"Excuse me Miss you are standing in the spot where I am attempting to park my vehicle, please move so you do not get hit by my car"

FUCK YOU! *woman attacks violently*

"Please stop as I fear for my life and must defend myself!"
*lashes out with a defensive blow that sends her flying*



Story posted on GAF. White Knights descend like a swarm of killer bees.

 

[Vagabundo]

That's silly.

He could have pushed her away if he was fearing his life or health. It doesn't matter if he threw just one or two punches if it was the first thing he did - which according to his own statements seem to be the case.

IF he had pushed her away, ran away and was followed by the woman who continued to hit him then yes, a punch or two would have been justified.

Are you Mahatma Gandhi?

Turn the other cheek?

Was she justified in escalating the conflict? Is he not justified in responding in kind?

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

That's silly.

He could have pushed her away if he was fearing his life or health. It doesn't matter if he threw just one or two punches if it was the first thing he did - which according to his own statements seem to be the case.

IF he had pushed her away, ran away and was followed by the woman who continued to hit him then yes, a punch or two would have been justified.

What if he pushed her, she tripped over a curb, hit her head and went into a coma? Would it still be unnecessary force? Our heads are fragile little things and we can die from falling over funny.

 

[MWS Natural]

You ain't scaring anyone.

Oh yes there is a violent Aardvark on the loose. I'm sure you can handle yourself though "Outlaw".

 

[Shanadeus]

Are you Mahatma Gandhi?

Turn the other cheek?

Was she justified in escalating the conflict? Is he not justified in responding in kind?

Didn't say that he should turn the other cheek, he should have returned to his car and called the police so that they could arrest her for assault if she did attack him.

But yeah, he is not justified in responding with an intentional punch when there are other, less violent, options.

What if he pushed her, she tripped over a curb, hit her head and went into a coma? Would it still be unnecessary force? Our heads are fragile little things and we can die from falling over funny.

Pushing her to get her away from him would be justified and a more effective mean of escaping the situation than punching her.

That's the deal here, he didn't unintentionally punch her.
He intentionally punched her with enough force to lift her off the ground.

 

[Slayer-33]

Why are people using the "kick in the nuts" defense when none of the reports indicates she did anything of the sort?

If she socked him in the face 4-5 times (as reported) would you take the chance to let a woman hit you like that and add insult to injury with a kick to the nuts?


Or should you run away like a pansy from the woman?

 

[C Jones]

"Excuse me Miss you are standing in the spot where I am attempting to park my vehicle, please move so you do not get hit by my car"

FUCK YOU! *woman attacks violently*

"Please stop as I fear for my life and must defend myself!"
*lashes out with a defensive blow that sends her flying*



Story posted on GAF. White Knights descend like a swarm of killer bees.

This doesn't tell my why he got out of his vehicle in the first place. Supposedly he asked her to move while seated in his vehicle, and she refuses. Why did he feel the need to get out of his vehicle? To physically move her?

The fact this dude fled the scene before the boyfriend could come back tells me all I need to know.

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

Give me a break. I would never be in this situation to begin with because fighting over a parking spot is flat out retarded but if I was and a woman swung at me, I may catch her arm or block the punch but I would never ever punch back. It's never ok to hit a woman no matter what the circumstances are.

I can't decide between two responses, so I'll just post them both.

1) Sexist.

or

2) Look at this stupid thing you posted!

Edit:

Pushing her to get her away from him would be justified and a more effective mean of escaping the situation than punching her.

That's the deal here, he didn't unintentionally punch her.

Sometimes when being hit repeatedly in an already angry, frustrated, tense emotional state, people do not react in a rational manner.