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[SmokyDave]

White Knights descend like a swarm of killer bees.

White Knights?

He punched a woman, into a coma, over a parking space. He ran away with his tail between his legs because he knew he'd fucked up. Why are you driven to defend this prick? Have you been 'bitchmade' in front of your friends or something?

The fact this dude fled the scene before the boyfriend could come back tells me all I need to know.

Exactly. Big enough to swing a punch, not big enough to take one. Like every guy I've ever known that's hit a woman.

 

[CrankyJay]

Sure no problem, it was posted by Devolution.

Thank you.

This article tells two different tales, so we will need to see the video to tell for sure. However...two quotes from the article stick out to me:

Fuller sped off, but witnesses gave his license plate number to cops. That led to the arrest. An electrician and father of two, Fuller was scrambling last night to post $100,000 bail. His previous arrests include busts for assault, drug possession and marijuana possession.

Why speed off if he was in the right?

There was another quote about hitting her with so much force she flew off her feet. There were witnesses for this.

 

[MWS Natural]

Or should you run away like a pansy from the woman?

According to WK-GAF you should attempt to restrain her while taking the beating and/or getting your eyes scratched out then attempt to run away while calling the police.

 

[Slayer-33]

This doesn't tell my why he got out of his vehicle in the first place. Supposedly he asked her to move while seated in his vehicle, and she refuses. Why did he feel the need to get out of his vehicle? To physically move her?

The fact this dude fled the scene before the boyfriend could come back tells me all I need to know.

Yeah good idea to stand around the woman you knocked out, lets see how the people in the vicinity would react if they didn't know the full story.

 

[Shanadeus]

According to WK-GAF you should attempt to restrain her while taking the beating and/or getting your eyes scratched out then attempt to run away while calling the police.

Not at all.
If he could run away, he should have.
Problem is that his pride would have gotten a hit instead though.

He could have pushed her away and be justified in doing so.
But according to what he said, he just punched her instead.

 

[CrankyJay]

Yeah good idea to stand around the woman you knocked out, lets see how the people in the vicinity would react if they didn't know the full story.

LOL

 

[YoungHav]

The video will probably leak.

 

[richiek]

According to WK-GAF you should attempt to restrain her while taking the beating and/or getting your eyes scratched out then attempt to run away while calling the police.

And when the boyfriend arrives on the scene, you should stay and take your beating like a man instead of run away like a pussy.

 

[Outlaw]

According to WK-GAF you should attempt to restrain her while taking the beating and/or getting your eyes scratched out then attempt to run away while calling the police.

You're still talking like a dumb ass just like that dude. All he needed to do was drive away when he asked her to move from the spot while on the car. Why get off and start a confrontation? Again, you're a dumb ass.

 

[SmokyDave]

According to WK-GAF you should attempt to restrain her while taking the beating and/or getting your eyes scratched out then attempt to run away while calling the police.

Or, y'know, find another fucking parking space?

I'd go through a long list of shit, including your quote above, before I ever hit a woman. You know why? Because there is a very real chance she'll end up in a coma.

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

The "You should always run from a fight" law is the most ridiculous bullshit. When threatened with violence our animal minds kick in to high gear and it's fight or flight, and no law is going to change that.

That someone can attack you and yet you can be held liable for harm you to do them because you didn't run away first is obscene.

Edit:

I'd go through a long list of shit, including your quote above, before I ever hit a woman. You know why? Because there is a very real chance she'll end up in a coma.

There's a very real chance that anyone you hit will end up in a coma. A bare-knuckle fist to the face followed by a six foot fall to pavement is very much life-threatening to anyone, male or female.

 

[Emerson]

That's silly.

He could have pushed her away if he was fearing his life or health. It doesn't matter if he threw just one or two punches if it was the first thing he did - which according to his own statements seem to be the case.

IF he had pushed her away, ran away and was followed by the woman who continued to hit him then yes, a punch or two would have been justified.

I am not saying punching her was rational or the ideal reaction. What I'm saying is that if the woman was indeed one of these bitches who act however they want because they've been raised to think there are no consequences, I am glad she is hurt, whether or not his actions were rational.

 

[Slayer-33]

You're still talking like a dumb ass just like that dude. All he needed to do was drive away when he asked her to move from the spot while on the car. Why get off and start a confrontation? Again, you're a dumb ass.

Finding a parking spot is a pretty big deal here in NYC.


Tempers get the best of people, that woman had no business in standing on the spot. It's not hers it's a public parking spot, look how she paid for it.

 

[Sol..]

rofl New York is awesome. You can't stand in a space to save it in New York then fight any random dude that comes up. Especially if a overhand right can easily put you in coma.

 

[Shanadeus]

The "You should always run from a fight" law is the most ridiculous bullshit. When threatened with violence our animal minds kick in to high gear and it's fight or flight, and no law is going to change that.

That someone can attack you and yet you can be held liable for harm you to do them because you didn't run away first is obscene.

No one is stopping him from choosing fight over flight.
He'll just be punished for choosing the former because there is no room for such a person in a civilized society.

Also, we don't know if she did attack him. He had not a single scratch on his face in the video posted whereas she was bloody and is in a coma.

 

[MWS Natural]

White Knights?

He punched a woman, into a coma, over a parking space. He ran away with his tail between his legs because he knew he'd fucked up. Why are you driven to defend this prick? Have you been 'bitchmade' in front of your friends or something?



Exactly. Big enough to swing a punch, not big enough to take one. Like every guy I've ever known that's hit a woman.

No I have just seen a woman beat a man's ass before. If a random woman attacked me violently I would not hesitate to defend myself the same was as if it was a man.

Or, y'know, find another fucking parking space?

I'd go through a long list of shit, including your quote above, before I ever hit a woman. You know why? Because there is a very real chance she'll end up in a coma.

You're still talking like a dumb ass just like that dude. All he needed to do was drive away when he asked her to move from the spot while on the car. Why get off and start a confrontation? Again, you're a dumb ass.

Clearly neither of you have ever lived in New York.

 

[CrankyJay]

I have to wonder, has anyone on GAF successfully changed the mind/opinion of another GAFer in any of these threads? It seems futile.

 

[Outlaw]

The "You should always run from a fight" law is the most ridiculous bullshit. When threatened with violence our animal minds kick in to high gear and it's fight or flight, and no law is going to change that.

That someone can attack you and yet you can be held liable for harm you to do them because you didn't run away first is obscene.

So you think a 100lb girl was going to seriously injure a 200lbs man? He could have avoided all if he just drove away instead of getting off the car and starting the confrontation. Think don't be stupid.

 

[Minsc]

Saying you post on GAF should be enough to get you off jury duty I think. This thread is crazy from all directions.

 

[MaddenNFL64]

If she attacked, knock her the fuck out.

 

[suzu]

He could have just left after asking her to move. I don't understand what he was planning on doing after getting out of the car.. argue with her and hope she will change her mind?

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

No one is stopping him from choosing fight over flight.
He'll just be punished for choosing the former because there is no room for such a person in a civilized society.

Hurf Durf I have a grossly idealized view of humanity.

Excuse me if my response is too insulting, you attacked me verbally and I violently over-reacted.

Edit:

He could have just left after asking her to move. I don't understand what he was planning on doing after getting out of the car.. argue with her and hope she will change her mind?

Intimidate her with his size and get her to move. It's her fault that she reacted with violence to his harassment. There's no room for a person like her in a civilized society, I say.

 

[Shanadeus]

Hurf Durf I have a grossly idealized view of humanity.

Excuse me if my response is too insulting, you attacked me verbally and I violently over-reacted.

And if the mods deem your over-reaction too much they'll ban you.
Sounds just like society.

Problems?

 

[YoungHav]

^^ yeah it's silly. I just wish a woman would magically appear behind some of these people's computers and give them a good whack in the head. Then when they turn around bewildered another punch in the eye. lol @ people swearing up and down that it's not impulsive to hit back

 

[Slayer-33]

He could have just left after asking her to move. I don't understand what he was planning on doing after getting out of the car.. argue with her and hope she will change her mind?

I bet that's what he wanted until she flipped out on him and then we know the rest of the story..


I hope she learned her lesson. She didn't have any right to "save" that spot for anyone.


People in this forum act as she's the victim here when in reality her actions ultimately led to an unintended consequence.

 

[Sol..]

He could have just left after asking her to move. I don't understand what he was planning on doing after getting out of the car.. argue with her and hope she will change her mind?

move a small human from a place they have no business being in. Now I woulda used my car. But you know she woulda started scraping the shit out of my car.

 

[richiek]

Clearly neither of you have ever lived in New York.

I do. Holding a parking spot is kind of a douche move, but be the better person and find another fucking parking spot.

 

[Igo]

He could have just left after asking her to move. I don't understand what he was planning on doing after getting out of the car.. argue with her and hope she will change her mind?

A reasonable person might. Sadly, this isn't the case.

No one is stopping him from choosing fight over flight.
He'll just be punished for choosing the former because there is no room for such a person in a civilized society.

Also, we don't know if she did attack him. He had not a single scratch on his face in the video posted whereas she was bloody and is in a coma.

If she did attack first she's the one who needs to be removed from society. No, i'm not talking about a coma or death, just jail.

 

[SmokyDave]

No I have just seen a woman beat a man's ass before. If a random woman attacked me violently I would not hesitate to defend myself the same was as if it was a man.

I've been violently attacked by a woman, more than once. I even had charges pressed against me on one occasion because I left a ring of bruises all around her arm while restraining her. The charges were dropped when the police saw she'd bitten a 4" gash into my shoulder to start the whole thing off.

Clearly neither of you have ever lived in New York.

My principles aren't based on geography and I believe my city has a higher violent crime rate than New York.

 

[Slayer-33]

I do. Holding a parking spot is kind of a douche move, but be the better person and find another fucking parking spot.

Screw her.


She had it coming, let this be a lesson to any asshole man or woman saving/jacking/blocking a parking spot from you.


People endure a lot of shit here at work just to deal with more shit trying to find a parking spot in NYC.

There's just no space to fucking park a car anymore.


Hope she makes a full recovery but she better learn her lesson.

 

[MaddenNFL64]

I bet that's what he wanted until she flipped out on him and then we know the rest of the story..


I hope she learned her lesson. She didn't have any right to "save" that spot for anyone.


People in this forum act as she's the victim here when in reality her actions ultimately led to an unintended consequence.

The story is because it's a woman. Man on man, be a normal day in idiots throwing punches over parking spots. Big deal.

 

[Kinitari]

If she was meekly throwing baby slaps and punches at his torso like some of you think, and he punched her hard in the head (hard enough to lift her off the ground) excessive force, no question.

If she was clawing at his face with her nails, spitting, grabbing and trying to kick him in the nuts, well... people get really defensive about their eyes, not saying his reaction in that scenario would have been entirely appropriate, but I'd at least understand it more.

Also, some of you must not have angry violent sisters. I literally still have scars from when she used to scratch the fuck out of me for no real reason.

 

[Shanadeus]

If she did attack first she's the one who needs to be removed from society. No, i'm not talking about a coma or death, just jail.

Definitely, if it turns out that she attacked him then I resolutely believe she shouldn't be allowed to freely move about in society.

Here's the dude in question:


Click for bigger, albeit blurrier, pic.

Clearly the victim of a brutal assault that he had to defend himself from by hitting back with great force.

 

[The Technomancer]

Not at all.
If he could run away, he should have.
Problem is that his pride would have gotten a hit instead though.

Right....so...how does that not translate to "she was allowed to hit him, and he was just supposed to take it or run away."
Or in other words, how is that not sexist as hell? You're saying that since she's a woman it was his job to be chivalrous and turn the other cheek.

Assuming that it was only one blow delivered, and assuming that her actually attacking him (not just a single "slap") is true, then he is entirely in the right. A woman can fuck you up just as much as a man.

 

[Outlaw]

^^ yeah it's silly. I just wish a woman would magically appear behind some of these people's computers and give them a good whack in the head. Then when they turn around bewildered another punch in the eye. lol @ people swearing up and down that it's not impulsive to hit back

Impulse to defend is an instinct be we are above animals. If a girl whacks/punches me my first thought would be "What the fuck are you thinking" . I already know I am physically superior to them and I don't need to show it by knocking them out.

 

[Incitemaybe]

In my view the man was in the wrong to have hit her as hard as he did and to have hit her at all.

Saving a parking space in that manner is a stupid idea however, for many reasons. She could have just as easily been rammed with the guys car.

I don't know where people come from when they think just because it's a small woman they can act in whatever assho-lish manner they choose.

Bottom line, if you condemn the man, you should also condemn the woman's behavior.
Why she would choose to put herself in this antagonistic situation with any other human who found that parking space first is beyond me.

Sounds like she had an aggressive stance from the outset.

Also, I hope she is going to be ok :-(

The man should also be made to get a good psychologist, sounds like he did the best he knew in that situation, which can be improved upon to the umpteenth degree.

 

[Shanadeus]

Right....so...how does that not translate to "she was allowed to hit him, and he was just supposed to take it or run away."
Or in other words, how is that not sexist as hell?

It's not sexist in any way.
If male weighing a 100 pounds hit him then he still should have run away.

She, and the 100-pound male, aren't allowed to hit him and should be dealt with by the proper authorities for initiating violence if they did so.

 

[Yamauchi]

What a stupid woman. American ladies still haven't figured out that when you attack dudes, they're going to fight back. As for 'excessive force'--most likely BS. When someone attacks you, you're first instinct is not going to be "How hard should I punch this person?" You're first reaction will be to punch as hard as you can.

 

[CrankyJay]

Definitely, if it turns out that she attacked him then I resolutely believe she shouldn't be allowed to freely move about in society.

Here's the dude in question:


Click for bigger, albeit blurrier, pic.

Clearly the victim of a brutal assault that he had to defend himself from by hitting back with great force.

Yeah, another article says he was socked in the eye. I don't see any bruising.

 

[MaddenNFL64]

Impulse to defend is an instinct be we are above animals. If a girl whacks/punches me my first thought would be "What the fuck are you thinking" . I already know I am physically superior to them and I don't need to show it by knocking them out.

We need more women punching you daily. See you restraining one after another until you snap! Someone should make that a show.

 

[MWS Natural]

I've been violently attacked by a woman, more than once. I even had charges pressed against me on one occasion because I left a ring of bruises all around her arm while restraining her. The charges were dropped when the police saw she'd bitten a 4" gash into my shoulder to start the whole thing off.

This is a perfect example of what I mean. If you would have defended yourself like a man was attacking you I'm sure you would still have the flesh in your shoulder.

My principles aren't based on geography and I believe my city has a higher violent crime rate than New York.

It has nothing to do with violent crime. By saying "just find another parking space", I know you don't understand how parking is in NY. There are times in NY where there actually isn't "just another space". There have been several occasions where I have driven around 30+ minutes before parking a nearly mile away from my destination.

What a stupid woman. American ladies still haven't figured out that when you attack dudes, they're going to fight back. As for 'excessive force'--most likely BS. When someone attacks you, you're first instinct is not going to be "How hard should I punch this person?" You're first reaction will be to punch as hard as you can.

Exactly. Too much fantasy land posting in here.

 

[Steelrain]

How that guy should have reacted:

AWWWWWWW YEEEEEAAAAAH!

 

[CrankyJay]

What if it were a 100 pound 10 year old kid and he started wailing on you? Okay to punch him?

 

[soundahfekz]

Never once did the story in the OP state that he hit her more than once. Beat to a coma can be a one hitter quitter as being shot do death doesn't have to involve multiple gunshot wounds.

All these comments about the man rotting and so forth. If she was blocking a parking space (how fucking stupid is that) then attacked him first and he lost his cool and hit her ONCE and she fell, I don't think he should face the kind of charges he's up against. If he literally beat her into a coma, multiple blows and all that then let him rot as that would be excessive.

You're talking about a grown woman (regardless of weight) with potential to harm just like any other human being on this planet who put herself into a confrontational situation by blocking access to a parking spot by standing in it. Because she hits and gets hit back all of a sudden its grounds for a felony? Again I'm going on what's provided in the OP. I'm sure the guy didn't turn his punch meter on "coma", but he shouldve exercised better self control knowing he'd be at legal disadvantage by engaging her in the first place.

I've been in this exact situation and I gave her a mean mug and kept it moving. Thay kind of douchery Is not worth going to jail for.

 

[Shanadeus]

What if it were a 100 pound 10 year old kid and he started wailing on you? Okay to punch him?

Remember that he may bite and scratch!

And that the puncher will be this beaten up afterwards:

 

[richiek]

Remember that he may bite and scratch!

And that the puncher will be this beaten up afterwards:

And don't forget nutshots, too!

 

[C Jones]

Yeah good idea to stand around the woman you knocked out, lets see how the people in the vicinity would react if they didn't know the full story.

Because running has done wonders for his image so far.

 

[Baby Milo]

if there is no visible damage you shouldn't be allowed to defend yourself

 

[Neki]

Not at all.
If he could run away, he should have.
Problem is that his pride would have gotten a hit instead though.

He could have pushed her away and be justified in doing so.
But according to what he said, he just punched her instead.

lol Shanadeus, you're hilarious. You come into threads citing "oh common sense, common sense justifies that right?" and then in this thread you say the same thing as the common sense brigade on GAF, you're like "INSTINCT TELLS YOU TO PUSH, NOT PUNCH." Apparently it isn't instinct if the guy didn't do it. You're such a hypocrite, LOL.

 

[effzee]

She has brain damage as a result? WTF how hard did he hit her?