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Just take what Najimi says at face value and it makes sense. Consider the main characters of the big 3. Sure they have the support of their nakama, but in the end it's their natural strength that lets them achieve their goals. This is nearly universally true of shounen battle manga (I guess FMA kind of subverts this).
Kumagawa resents this, apparently. He sees Kurokami and Co. as the embodiment of this cliche, because they have what he doesn't and they have it because they are the main charactersl. Out of jealousy, he seeks to defeat them to validate his personal ideals. Basically, this makes Kumagawa is a shounen Lenin.
Ah, I see. Well, this is true, but only a fool (or a child) wouldn't believe that power is what decides everything in this world, and its only rival is intelligence. In a shounen manga, a battle manga, it's obvious that of those two things, power will be the one that prevails. I don't think that's a fuck you but more of a "this is how it works" thing.
Of course, I don't know the context behind what's being spoken as I don't read the manga, but the converse is true. You can gain power through friends, you can gain power through hard work, and you can gain power through (minor and sometimes major) victories. If you take the big three for example, their characters have power, but they don't see their power as their source of power, rather, their friends/loved ones are. That could just be denial to what the truth of that panel is saying, but yeah. For example, if Naruto/Ichigo/Luffy couldn't protect one of their friends with their 'power', I don't think that their friends would say "Oh, well you don't have the power to protect me, so I'm not your true friend anymore"
But, yeah.
Of course, I don't know the context behind what's being spoken as I don't read the manga, but the converse is true. You can gain power through friends, you can gain power through hard work, and you can gain power through (minor and sometimes major) victories. If you take the big three for example, their characters have power, but they don't see their power as their source of power, rather, their friends/loved ones are. That could just be denial to what the truth of that panel is saying, but yeah. For example, if Naruto/Ichigo/Luffy couldn't protect one of their friends with their 'power', I don't think that their friends would say "Oh, well you don't have the power to protect me, so I'm not your true friend anymore"
But, yeah.
I meant it in the sense that Isin trolls WSJ. Whereas something like Gintama lovingly spoofs them. There's the sense that he doesn't respect the conventions of the genre--hence, the absurd power-levels, built-in retcons, and one-dimensional protagonists. The series just stretches everything to ridiculous levels, gleefully so.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Claymore: Continuing to overstay its welcome and continually go nowhere.
I don't even remember who Miria is.
I don't even remember who Miria is.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
She's the blond chick.Angry Grimace said:
Dedication Through Light
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Doc Holliday said:
Really? I thought it was so creative how they had to get to that place, and it was so adventurous, which defines One Piece first and foremost, an adventure...
spiderman123
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Question: is there any One Piece this week?!\
edit: nvm a lot of breaks OP is taking
edit: nvm a lot of breaks OP is taking
mugurumakensei
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Stat Flow said:
I'm happy. I'll get my riruka cover page.
Dedication Through Light
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Stat Flow said:
Fortunately Bleach is first...though I hope Oda is alright, wonder why it isnt making it this wk.
mugurumakensei
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Bleach
Chapter is out on mangastream.
Riruka color page was wonderful.
Chapter is out on mangastream.
Riruka color page was wonderful.
Dedication Through Light
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Bleach 439!
ZOMG Kubo, why?! Wasting time with the healthy guy, caused the pages with the action to not climax before reaching the chapter, and now, Im left on the edge of my seat dying for more (and a potential Ichigo fullbring versus "book of the end" Tsukishima fullbring too). GAH! Sword looks awesome though.
ZOMG Kubo, why?! Wasting time with the healthy guy, caused the pages with the action to not climax before reaching the chapter, and now, Im left on the edge of my seat dying for more (and a potential Ichigo fullbring versus "book of the end" Tsukishima fullbring too). GAH! Sword looks awesome though.
Hopefully its not just a normal sword. Would like some more intellectual battles going on. Maybe it has some sort of time travel ability? Or teleportation? Going to certain places you've "set"?
Edit: Agh! This splitting the pages BS has messed with my autoloader. Scrolling down and reading the whole chapter was great! Now its gone though
Edit: Agh! This splitting the pages BS has messed with my autoloader. Scrolling down and reading the whole chapter was great! Now its gone though
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Lirlond said:
Oh not just normal with some intellectual battles...hm maybe its like Kyokasuigetsu...I can only HOPE!!!
VGChampion
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Dang no One Piece this week? I didn't see anything about it taking a break last week.
Kind of figured we'd be in for one soon though as we've gone a long time without one now. Still sucks not having my manga fix.
Kind of figured we'd be in for one soon though as we've gone a long time without one now. Still sucks not having my manga fix.
Nekomancer
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dat smirk
RepairmanJack
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Aizen has two sons? :\
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RepairmanJack said:
Im quite sure they are just projections thanks to Kyokasuigetsu, since Aizen never stopped using it.
RepairmanJack
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Dedication Through Light said:
Do you really think that? Really??
My Name Is Luke
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At this point, I'm just putting off the "Aizen Smirk" as a red herring for any new character that we're seeing in this arc.
Bummer about there being no new OP this week, hopefully Naruto actually interests me this week. I'm getting a little tired of all this resurrection juitsu stuff.
Bummer about there being no new OP this week, hopefully Naruto actually interests me this week. I'm getting a little tired of all this resurrection juitsu stuff.
It's good, and I recognize that panel of Minato licking Yuuji in dragon form from somewhere but I forgot where I saw it.flawfuls said:
The interaction is very sweet, I just wish it would tone down the socio-political commentary (which is pretty outdated by today's standards) and the rape.
thetechkid
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Azein's Son #1 told Ichigo to leave and planned on him running into Azien's Son #2, JUST ACCORDING TO KEIKAKU!
Infinite Justice
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Bleach
Interesting.
it be funny if the crazy idea of Aizen having a brother/relative whos stronger than him actually comes true lol.
Interesting.
it be funny if the crazy idea of Aizen having a brother/relative whos stronger than him actually comes true lol.
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Infinite Justice said:
That would be awesome.
Bleach
Cool chapter. Loved that coverart Nice to see Orihime standing her ground, but I wonder what's happened with her, I'm about 90% sure Tsukishima isn't there to harm her, but instead to teach her/"hold" her until Ichigo arrives.
Anyway, dude's Fullbring is awesome, I think he might be an ex-shinigami like Ginjou and Ichigo. The big question right now is if he's in alliance with Ginjou or not. That, and what Orihime can do.
Oh, and I would love if Aizen was somehow related to Ginjou/These Fullbringers.
Naruto
Good god this is bad. I just skimmed, and I don't care nor know what the fuck is going on.
Ino and Chouji seriously bring down the worth of my favorite character, they're better off dead. And I wasn't even interested in team 10's segments. I don't know who Mifune is or half of those other people flying around. Why the fuck is Kakuzu running his mouth like he didn't get roflstomped, why are we even seeing him? HIdan was much cooler Is this the end of him with this sealing shit? ARGHHHH
Cool chapter. Loved that coverart Nice to see Orihime standing her ground, but I wonder what's happened with her, I'm about 90% sure Tsukishima isn't there to harm her, but instead to teach her/"hold" her until Ichigo arrives.
Anyway, dude's Fullbring is awesome, I think he might be an ex-shinigami like Ginjou and Ichigo. The big question right now is if he's in alliance with Ginjou or not. That, and what Orihime can do.
Oh, and I would love if Aizen was somehow related to Ginjou/These Fullbringers.
RepairmanJack said:
Naruto
Good god this is bad. I just skimmed, and I don't care nor know what the fuck is going on.
Ino and Chouji seriously bring down the worth of my favorite character, they're better off dead. And I wasn't even interested in team 10's segments. I don't know who Mifune is or half of those other people flying around. Why the fuck is Kakuzu running his mouth like he didn't get roflstomped, why are we even seeing him? HIdan was much cooler Is this the end of him with this sealing shit? ARGHHHH
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Stat Flow said:
Darn you make Orihime sound essentially like a worthless deadweight. I guess it was a guaranteed way to get them involved with Ichigo (or perhaps Chad, since Chad seems to be having his greatest screentime thus far in an arc in Bleach).
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lol, how? I'm saying that just like Ishida, she's a trigger to get Ichigo to further advance in his Fullbring training. Does this make Ishida a worthless deadweight? Just moving the plot along. I want to see what Tsukishima will have to say to Orihime if anything, I'm sure it'll be important to the readers. Like I said, I don't think he's a bad guy.
It's better that she stood her ground, but I mean, this is the same opponent that hacked off Ishida's arm in what was probably one fell swoop, so yeah.
Like I've said before; I like Orihime's character. She doesn't try to be what she isn't, cares about her friends, and wants to help when she cans. And while her love for Ichigo is annoying at times, it's not like its misplaced or anything. Her powers are also the most mysterious (and possibly most interesting, especially if she could have fullbring in store for her) up to this point out of all of Ichigo's compatriots.
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