CowboyLou
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I'm happy to letThis needs its own thread.
I'm happy to letThis needs its own thread.
Been playing this game for a while.
This game FUCKS.
My threads are not delivering lately. I lost my mojo.I'm happy to letMen_in_Boxes handle that, man lives to create Marathon threads.
I'm a Destiny hater but this game is making me let all of that go.I guess Bungie still has the rizz.
Read my spoiler in there if you didn't.Highguard is Concord 2.0. This is 3.0. Try to keep up.
I think Marathon will steal more of the COD Battlefield fan base.They're fine, but this is absolutely a competitor.
If ARC Raiders was Tyson, this is Holyfield.
They should not be calling themselves the creators of Halo. I doubt they even have many competent people left who helped create the first Destiny.They updated the store page, it looks much better
Certainly possible. I tend to think Marathon will attract more of the nerd gamers whereas CoD & Battlefield hits more of the casual broski audience. I think they'll pull from ARC a bit but also the Valorant & Siege audience. Those competitive shooters seem a bit more hardcore than CoD and BF. It'll be fun to watch.I think Marathon was steal more of the COD Battlefield fan base.
Much like Back 4 Blood shouldn't have called themselves the creators of Left 4 Dead, lol. It's just good "positive" marketing.They should not be calling themselves the creators of Halo. I doubt they even have many competent people left who helped create the first Destiny.
We'll have to see how things play out in practice but to me the abilities seem to encourage a lot of repositioning and disengagement via mobility and stealth, but given how tight the points of interest are on the maps, I think they'll be constant pressure from players and UESC alike that keeps things dynamic and keep combat encounters frequent. I wasn't in the latest tests but in the earlier ones, movement and gunplay felt like a cross between the typical Bungie style and a stiffer, more tactical feel. It was interesting and I'm not sure I fully got to grips with it, but I did like it. I'm sure people in the more recent tests can speak to it further.I've played the game, and I'm somewhat looking forward to it, but I don't like a lot of what I saw in the Runner Shells video.
It's as if they've taken the most annoying abilities from other games and put them all in one.
Most of those abilities seem to encourage avoiding combat instead of engaging in it, which kind of makes sense because the movement and combat felt very stiff in earlier builds. Hopefully things have improved.
Nah the only real competition at this point is Arc and that was $40. Tarkov and whatever else are in the background.This actually looks like a good game but this market is ran by free to play games so I'm not sure how they plan to break in with a retail model instead of Free to Play
Get word to Embark before it's too late. They're charging $40 for ARC Raiders like total idiots.This actually looks like a good game but this market is ran by free to play games so I'm not sure how they plan to break in with a retail model instead of Free to Play
The two biggest recent multiplayer shooters were Battlefield 6 ($70 USD) and Arc Raiders ($40 USD). People will pay for quality (if they like what's on offer). Of course there's f2p shooters like Rivals at the other end of the spectrum but they're then designed and marketed around that paradigm instead. There's also the cheater factor, much easier to create new burner accounts with f2p, especially undesirable in an extraction shooter that's leaning hardcore.This actually looks like a good game but this market is ran by free to play games so I'm not sure how they plan to break in with a retail model instead of Free to Play
It's a fair point but last I checked there were still a few old-timers working there, might even be someone who worked on the original Marathon trilogy somewhere (but take with a grain of salt since I can't recall the name or my source). Technically Jason Jones is still there as "chief creative officer" but I have no idea what he's been up to for the last decade or so. He's a tough one to figure out. I think the industry kinda burned him out somewhere around the PS360 gen with increasing costs/expectations/hype but that's a whole separate conversation. But yeah marketing games with "from the creators of something you loved twenty years ago" is dumb 99% of the time, but what can you do.They should not be calling themselves the creators of Halo. I doubt they even have many competent people left who helped create the first Destiny.
When the human brain forms a belief ("Live Service is run by F2P") it is astonishing at how efficiently it throws out evidence to the contrary.The two biggest recent multiplayer shooters were Battlefield 6 ($70 USD) and Arc Raiders ($40 USD). People will pay for quality (if they like what's on offer). Of course there's f2p shooters like Rivals at the other end of the spectrum but they're then designed and sold around that paradigm instead. There's also the cheater factor, much easier to create new burner accounts with f2p.
This actually looks like a good game but this market is ran by free to play games so I'm not sure how they plan to break in with a retail model instead of Free to Play
The two biggest recent multiplayer shooters were Battlefield 6 ($70 USD) and Arc Raiders ($40 USD). People will pay for quality (if they like what's on offer). Of course there's f2p shooters like Rivals at the other end of the spectrum but they're then designed and marketed around that paradigm instead. There's also the cheater factor, much easier to create new burner accounts with f2p, especially undesirable in an extraction shooter that's leaning hardcore.
It'll be fascinating to watch the ARC Raiders Steamcharts in March / April.
I've been an ARC > Marathon guy basically the whole time. This is the first time I'm thinking Marathon will end up the better game. It now makes sense that Marathon was built by ~300 and ARC Raiders was built by ~100.
For one, I don't think they would have turned it around as they apparently are. It might have been lost with a smaller dev team.Why do you think this?
Lol that look on the drone's face. "WTF DUDE?!"
Battlefield is not the same but ARC Raiders & Helldivers are good examples but they're more dark & gritty vs the bright colorful games like this that are mostly targeted at the Free to Play market.The two biggest recent multiplayer shooters were Battlefield 6 ($70 USD) and Arc Raiders ($40 USD). People will pay for quality (if they like what's on offer). Of course there's f2p shooters like Rivals at the other end of the spectrum but they're then designed and sold around that paradigm instead. There's also the cheater factor, much easier to create new burner accounts with f2p.
ARC Raiders feels like they have a really strong foundation but they didn't develope the top yet.Why do you think this?
Uh?EvenChorizoPicozo is on board!
That's the most positive Marathon post I've ever seen from you.Uh?
I just posted a video from that dude for the people interested (I don't even know what the video says).![]()
Yeah, but hey, providing one is still a good sign these days, especially if it's before release. Now, the quality of that roadmap....I mean even concord devs said the same thing so its a nothingburger
They making a GaaS game here, ofc they planning to support it for years as of now
Bright and colourful games should be free, dark gritty games its ok to charge money for. Gotcha.Battlefield is not the same but ARC Raiders & Helldivers are good examples but they're more dark & gritty vs the bright colorful games like this that are mostly targeted at the Free to Play market.
This looks more like the free to play games that's all I was saying.
Lol no but it looks like it's trying to get the attention of the kids that play these bright colorful free to play gamesBright and colourful games should be free, dark gritty games its ok to charge money for. Gotcha.
The market leaders in this sub genre all charge money.Lol no but it looks like it's trying to get the attention of the kids that play these bright colorful free to play games
Think I might go with:Marathon |OT| Concorde V2.0
just to make fun of that retard earlier in the thread. But really the title should be "Escape Will Make Me God"
Dread It, Run From it, Marathon Still ArrivesThink I might go with:
Marathon |OT| Gamings next Halo moment (tm)
Seriously, will probably go with Escape will make me god unlessMen_in_Boxes provides me with another gem before launch.
I have the OT almost ready, I like it lol. Had to pass the time in some way whilst stuck where I am atm.Dread It, Run From it, Marathon Still Arrives
Play on words since the original quote is "Destiny still arrives."
The original reveal was handled in the worst possible manner. Should have been a closed alpha with no fanfare. It was clearly nowhere near ready for prime time.Watched the latest dev vid. Feels like people are hating on it because they feel like they should.
I think the reason they opened it up (from what I remember people saying) is that if the purely did a closed alpha with streamers or select gamers they'd eventually would leak out it's crap.The original reveal was handled in the worst possible manner. Should have been a closed alpha with no fanfare. It was clearly nowhere near ready for prime time.
On the other hand was probably also the best thing that could have happened to the game ironically.
It was closed (I didn't get in) but they lifted the NDA. Which I never got in the first place. Why have this big reveal then NDA the playtest shortly afterwards? Made zero sense.I think the reason they opened it up (from what I remember people saying) is that if the purely did a closed alpha with streamers or select gamers they'd eventually would leak out it's crap.
But if they open it up to the general public who'd be less critical, they were betting masses of people trying it out and talking about it might get enough positive vibes spread on the net to counter closed alpha gamers.
Sure but, that dev isn't Bungie either...I mean even concord devs said the same thing so its a nothingburger
They making a GaaS game here, ofc they planning to support it for years as of now