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Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam Bros. out on December 4th in Europe
- Thread starter L~A
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I'm down for the 10th, no crossover with Xenoblade. 
I think just Nintendo titles for me for the rest of the year too...
Yokai Watch, Kirby and I'm pretty sure more games have released weeks/months later in Europe this year. Everyone has the right to a Nintendo pity party.
I think just Nintendo titles for me for the rest of the year too...
Yokai Watch, Kirby and I'm pretty sure more games have released weeks/months later in Europe this year. Everyone has the right to a Nintendo pity party.
Robin64
Member
Yo-Kai Watch says hello.
Well if NoA is getting an announcement it'll be later. They be sleepin now.
TheMoon
Member
Good one. Everyone gets their turn. There is no "as usual" ...
hopefully that will come here sooner than later.
Benzychenz
Member
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Can't wait.
most of the games i'm interested have been the ones NoA has been last while almost none of the ones they put before NoE have interested me.
why can't they just do same date like with other releases such as SMM and Splatoon?
TheMoon
Member
Because with those non-tentpole games, they're filling their calendar as needed. Plus sometimes it's a matter of localization priority or whatever. Win some, lose some.
Cool one more for the trade pile
I'd give it a try at least. Everybody seems to hate because it's no TTYD and because of its extremely limited battle system, but if you play it with an open mind you'll find a pretty good game with some of the best level design the series has seen. Its major flaw for me was the lack of charismatic characters, the plot is non existent but that's not that bad considering it's a Mario game.
Right on, will buy this game even if it's bad just to hear that glorious music
Dream Team might have been a weak game but it easily had the best soundtrack of the whole M&L series.
eXistor
Member
I love the M&L games, but Dream Team was the worst along with Partners in Time. They draaaaaagged so much. DT had no right to be 60 hours long. Cut it down to 20 or 30 at the most and it should help the game immensely.
Also isn't it about time for a M&L/Paper Mario X Zelda? Now that would be an interesting game and it'll sell better than Paper Jam I'm sure.
Still curious to see what Paper Jam is gonna end up being though. I'm a staunch defender of Sticker Star so the Paper Mario brand isn't tarnished in my eyes.
Also isn't it about time for a M&L/Paper Mario X Zelda? Now that would be an interesting game and it'll sell better than Paper Jam I'm sure.
Still curious to see what Paper Jam is gonna end up being though. I'm a staunch defender of Sticker Star so the Paper Mario brand isn't tarnished in my eyes.
Robin64
Member
No, it's a singleplayer game.
is it me or do the Paper Mario characters seem to have a Paper Mario 1 charm to them in the artwork? They look a little stockier like on the N64 cover.Some new artworks (click to enlarge)
GiantBreadbug
Member
Pleeeeease be out in December in NA.
How likely is that?
How likely is that?
Man that sucks, looks like it would lend itself to 1 player being Mario and the other Luigi.
TheMoon
Member
Not very. Their slots are filled with Yokai Watch and Devil's Third. The former isn't coming this year in EU and the latter has been out for months so there was empty space.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
Pretty sure the US is getting pokemon mystery dungeon this year and we're not that, so thats ok.
TheSlySoul
Member
Times like these I am still glad I got a European 3DS. Guess January 2016 for US.
Whoa, lightning fast localization on this one. I wonder if it's not quite as lengthy as Dream Team? No great reason to really think that, though. As to NA, I can see unfortunately how with Yo-kai and Pokémon SMD it will be less likely for this to come out still this year. Hopefully by March at the latest, though?
P.S. the M&L games never went downhill. 😊
I don't think NOA does January or June releases typically, unfortunately.
P.S. the M&L games never went downhill. 😊
I don't think NOA does January or June releases typically, unfortunately.
It really, really was not that bad at all. The game was 55+ hours and the tutorials were mainly in the first ten hours. The game would teach you how to use a mechanic and then set you free to solve puzzles using that mechanic. It was no more pronounced than in a console Zelda game, or in many, many other Nintendo games.
Robin64
Member
No, sorry, I can't agree. If it wasn't that bad, there wouldn't be such a commotion about it.
And come on, even at the end of the game it's still telling you what to do. "That floor looks weak! Maybe jump on it and see what happens!" Don't need that crap, if the floor looks weak that's enough.
Yes, the tutorial complaints have been way overblown. It didn't feel much different to me than the previous game.
I want to say that the reports from E3 said the tutorials they encountered all came with a yes/no prompt that let them opt out before they began, but don't quote me on that.
TheSlySoul
Member
Pretty much. I played the whole series recently and the series is pretty tutorial heavy. The reports of it being slippage in this game is huge.
Dream Team is one of my favorites.
I've thoroughly enjoyed all Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi games (apart from Partners in Time, which I still need to play), so I'm really looking forward to Paper Jam Bros. I don't think NoA will release it this year, though. They seem to be focused on pushing Yo-Kai Watch as their next big 3DS release after Tri Force Heroes.
They seem to have the same line work as their TTYD redesigns, but I agree they look better than usual. Maybe because they are shown next to their M&L designs?
TheSlySoul
Member
Fates in summer is probably realistic because If has lots of text and dubbing.I can't believe NOA would want to release this and FE Fates early next year. So either Paper Mario is going to get a surprise December release as well or Fates probably won't be out until the summer
Huh, that's soon! I'll probably put it off until Christmas unless I get really desperate.
I'm with you on Dream Team not being bad. I will say the tutorials were bad and often unnecessary, but the mechanics themselves were fun when the game left you alone to use them. It's a great game that's unfortunately weighed down by being a bit too long and having lengthy tutorials. Definitely has some of my favourite battle mechanics in the series. And the best music.
Not holding my breath. Starlow is the only thing we've seen that isn't commonplace in the Mario platformers.
I'm with you on Dream Team not being bad. I will say the tutorials were bad and often unnecessary, but the mechanics themselves were fun when the game left you alone to use them. It's a great game that's unfortunately weighed down by being a bit too long and having lengthy tutorials. Definitely has some of my favourite battle mechanics in the series. And the best music.
Not holding my breath. Starlow is the only thing we've seen that isn't commonplace in the Mario platformers.
I really wish Nintendo would capitalize on their "Paper" franchise, it doesn't have to always be Mario. Just like Yarn didn't stick to Kirby, I think there can be really cool games using their other properties.
Still, I'm excited for this game, I hope they've learned from Dream Team.
Still, I'm excited for this game, I hope they've learned from Dream Team.
Starwolf_UK
Member
I want to go back and add bros to the other titles:
Superstar Saga Bros
Partners in Time Bros
Bowser's Inside Story Bros
That implies the Yo pie what anime is airing in Germany, France, Spain, Italy (I honestly don't know if that is the case). There will be no game launch until that happens judging by Inazuma Eleven (hopefully without the whole "but you UK plebs can wait 6 months for don't give a fuck, cut my nose to spite my rivals Disney XD to air and drop the series after a few weeks",< on the other hand some countries had the game launch before the anime, game bombed and then once anime aired demand surged out of nowhere).
I also though Style Boutique was the apology game. I guess that wasn't enough...
I think the deal with the tutorials is that we get this whole thing about Starlow coming out, examining the thing and being like "hmmmmmmmm maybe you could use this? press the button to switch to Luigi. Good! Now press B to merge with the object!"
Just like, this unnecessary load of text which amounts to telling you how to use a very simple mechanic. Didn't turn me off the game, but often you can tell what an object does just by looking at it.
Waylon Drums
Member
Tip: When critiquing one's ability to be taken seriously, never use the word "broham"
Ysssssssssss, this is one of the game that I was looking forward to play.
-Kirby and the Rainbow curse
-Super Pokémon Mystery Dungeon
-Yo-Kai Watch
-Chibi-Robo Zip Lash
-Sin and Punishment on Wii U virtual console
You guys got those game before us, but sure continue posting how you guys are last for everything.
Not like it gets annoying in every European related thread. ¬_¬;
This pretty much, the tutorials just slows down the gameplay which can get annoying as the course of the game goes on.
-Kirby and the Rainbow curse
-Super Pokémon Mystery Dungeon
-Yo-Kai Watch
-Chibi-Robo Zip Lash
-Sin and Punishment on Wii U virtual console
You guys got those game before us, but sure continue posting how you guys are last for everything.
Not like it gets annoying in every European related thread. ¬_¬;
This pretty much, the tutorials just slows down the gameplay which can get annoying as the course of the game goes on.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Its not just the tutorials. The whole game is just really fuckin talky. Anything that could be said in one sentence will be three. Even when the localization and humor is good, you're mashing through like fuuuuck let me just play the fuckin video game.
TheSlySoul
Member
I think that the complaint is valid. You know why they do that? Because gamers today cannot figure anything out for themselves. Remember when Super Metroid came to Wii U and the posts of people asking how to do the most basic crap? If you want to get mad at anything, get mad at the fact that new gamers do not have the patience to figure out things on their own.