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Marvel Introduce Diverse New Warriors Characters “Snowflake” (Jock) & “Safespace” (Non Binary) B Negative (vampire) Screetime (Edgy Meme Boy) & more

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
Do SJW's even read comic books? Why the hell does every entertainment have to pander to them?

Movies, games, books. Who knew the "oppressed" class also happened to be the wealthiest.

And when this shit fails, Publishers will still be like "clearly, we weren't diverse enough!".

Vertigo RIP =/
 

Ivory Blood

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slugbahr

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As if 'progressive' audiences have the money to spend on superhero comics. It's always been a genre for young boys and men. Marvel editorial is really braindead if they think this will attract new readership.

Shit. It's not like there wasn't a precedent before. One of the most acclaimed comics of the late 80's to early 90's featured gay people and transsexuals as characters. That was Sandman. Doesn't Marvel, the vaunted 'House of Ideas', have someone on their payroll who can come up with a comic like that?

Then again, Sandman was written by Neil Gaiman. Asking comic creators today to match his talent is akin to asking a regular dude to beat Usain Bolt's record.
I was referring to the more general tendency to utilise the popularity and reach of past enjoyed works to try to get away with creating the shit they do today.
 
I can't complain. I have always said stop race/sex/sexuality swapping existing characters and make new ones. They did just that. That doesn't mean this looks good. In fact it looks downright awful. When it gets dropped due to poor sales the blame game will be the usual nonsense.
I've long accepted that if these kind of people had any real talent or creativity, they wouldn't have ended up obsessed with such superficial and irrelevant differences between people in the first place.
 
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lock2k

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Psychic Twins. “All twins are psychic, but we’re psychic-er.” Snowflake, a cryokinetic, can materialize snowflake-shaped shuriken projectiles for throwing. Safespace can materialize pink forcefields, but he can’t inhabit them himself, the reflex only works if he’s protecting others. They’re hyper aware of modern culture and optics, and they see their Super Heroics as “a post-ironic meditation on using violence to combat bullying.” They're probably streaming this.

"Snowflake and Safespace are the twins," the writer says, "and their names are very similar to Screentime; it's this idea that these are terms that get thrown around on the internet that they don't see as derogatory. [They] take those words and kind of wear them as badges of honor.

"Safespace is a big, burly, sort of stereotypical jock. He can create forcefields, but he can only trigger them if he's protecting somebody else. Snowflake is non-binary and goes by they/them, and has the power to generate individual crystalized snowflake-shaped shurikens. The connotations of the word 'snowflake' in our culture right now are something fragile, and this is a character who is turning it into something sharp.

"Snowflake is the person who has the more offensive power, and Safespace is the person who has the more defensive power. The idea is that they would mirror each other and complement each other."



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A teen “living vampire” exposed to Michael Morbius’s blood as a child in a rogue, but life-saving medical procedure. He still ages like a regular kid, but has all the abilities of Morbius. He’s also obsessed with all the music and attitude of a “classic” long-past decades like the '90s, and the '00s. “The world is a vampire…and so am I.”

B-Negative is the goth kid. When he was a baby he got a rogue lifesaving blood transfusion, we assume, from Michael Morbius. And now he has a very similar look, and very similar vampire powers," shares Kibblesmith. “B-Negative ages like a regular person (or does he?) and he definitely drinks blood (or does he?), but designer/artist Luciano Vecchio took brilliant inspiration from the '90s Spider-Man cartoon and gave B-Negative the 'leech suckers' that the animated version of Morbius had on his palms.”




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A regular kid scooped up into the world of teenage Super Heroing. Her “magic backpack” is actually a pocket dimension with seemingly infinite space, from which she can pull out useful or random objects—it’s not always under her control. She claims to get her power from god, but “not the god you’re thinking of.”


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A Meme-Obsessed super teen whose brain became connected to the internet after becoming exposed to his grandfather’s “experimental internet gas.” Now he can see augmented reality and real-time maps, and can instantly Google any fact. Does this make him effectively a genius? He sure acts like it does.

"I wanted to have teen characters who felt as "now" as the New Warriors did in 1990,” explains Kibblesmith. “The New Warriors have been zeitgeist characters from the beginning, you get edgy skateboarding Night Thrasher in the '90s and the Reality TV team in the 2000s, and now in 2020, we have New Warriors who have never grown up without the Internet, and one character who appears to essentially live inside it.

“The word ’screen time’ is only ever used in a sort of restrictive sense, and because we’re doing a story about teenage rebels, a lot of the names are about teens fighting against labels that are put on them. So with Screentime, we liked the idea that he has infinite screen time.”



I saw these on Twitter and thought “They can’t be real”
Oh they are real.
https://www.marvel.com/articles/comics/introducing-the-new-new-warriors?linkId=84516276
Marvel sucks. lol
 
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slugbahr

Unconfirmed Member
The one with almost normal eyes wears a visor that hides em. Fuckin hilarious.
Hire artists that can fuckin draw, Marvel.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
Damn, does Trailblazer eat EVERYTHING she pulls out of her backpack?

I feel like this kind of stuff could work, but only if they stripped away the costumed superhero nonsense and just gave teens powers and played that out. Why would these dorks work together? Who makes their costumes? Why are they not making a FORTUNE using their powers to help humanity in real world ways instead of fighting cishet bullies? Having superpowers doesnt make you a cop. It doesnt make you a criminal either. Comics can never understand this basic concept when they write stuff for kids older than 10.
 

Mahadev

Member
Goddamn, the ugly, obese, short girl looks so heroic! Can't wait to read all about her adventures of hurrying to the scene of the crime to defeat the bad guys, stopping for a few minutes to catch her breath, keep hurrying, stopping for a few minutes to catch her breath, keep hurrying, stopping for a few minutes to catch her breath, keep hurrying, stopping for a few minutes to catch her breath and so on....
 

tkscz

Member
Shit like this is why my local comic book store went out of business. In their attempt to reel in a new audience (who don't read comics), they've completely alienated their actual audience. GG Marvel.

A lot of stores went out of business because of moves like this. This isn't to say the Tumblr crowd doesn't read comics, but they don't read main stream comics. They only read web comics found on WebToons or other sites/apps like that. They have no interest what so ever in DC or Marvel. But Marvel writers and editors kept pushing these books to stores with stores unable to sell them. And they can't just cut off Marvel, a lot of Spider-man, X-men and Avenger books still sell (Spider-man especially) but Marvel tosses like 93 different books at them a month, and they can't get rid of like 80 of them. This book is going to flop, but those in Marvel will twist it so that it succeeded at something, or blame trolls or "Privileged straight white men" for it's failings.

Also why even read this when Teen Titans and Young Justice are way better books?
 

#Phonepunk#

Banned
I really am scratching my head at this. Even if this was aimed at you, wouldnt you find this incredibly pandering and insulting?
this is what makes it so funny. they are trying soooo haaaard to pander to teens. teens are the demographic who will see through that kind of bs.

this isnt for teens tho, not really. this is for the middle age SJW virtue signalling his way into clout.
 
this is what makes it so funny. they are trying soooo haaaard to pander to teens. teens are the demographic who will see through that kind of bs.

this isnt for teens tho, not really. this is for the middle age SJW virtue signalling his way into clout.


This is what I never really understood. SJW types seem to celebrate whenever they shoe-horn in this bullshit in an incredibly pandering manner instead of realizing that its kind of insulting. Its like politicians who pretend to give a shit about small towns when they're campaigning and never visit those places ever again once they are in office.
 
Hilarious and puzzling.
Do the creators really think this will bring respect to real life snowflakes and people who hide in safe spaces?
 
Remember this when people debate that there's a trend of woke ideology in entertainment and media. There's a lot of patently invalid "if you complain about this stuff you're just as bad as the woke side." type of arguments that get made.

It shouldn't have to get this bad in every single industry before people stop denying that this is a trend and it's damaging. You can see the effects becoming worse and faster in comics than other mediums because of how quickly "fresh talent" can be brought on board and produce new books. Without seeing the gradual, industry wide, decline something this shitty is almost unbelievable... but after having already experienced comics like Ignited, for instance:

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That are (co) written by comics veterans like Mark Waid, it's nearly impossible to be shocked. These people are absolutely steeped in it. I can only hope that the universal backlash against this New Warriors rollout can serve as the beginnings of a wake up call.
 
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