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Marvel's Daredevil - Trailer 2
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thetrin
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It's one reason I love Daredevil's story as well. Matt's life sucks, and it consumes him. He remains one of my most favorite Marvel characters.
The alien invasion did a lot of damage and made the area poorer.
I wouldn't say zero percent.
But maybe that's because I also hope we'll see a few TV show characters in the movies.
He got blind as a kid which the trailer implies.
I hope they go with something similar to the McDaniel armored design.
I always liked that suit.
That suit is associated with the worst run on Daredevil comics and seen as part of the awful mid-90's Marvel craziness. I doubt we are ever going to see it again.
Yep, watched it again and for some reason missed that part - thanks.
NeloAnjelo
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HOLY $#IT!
I love the comics. This looks true to the books!
I love the comics. This looks true to the books!
That run is much better then some people make it out to be though!
More_Badass
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What role could Kingpin play in another Marvel movie (besides as a villian in Spiderman)? (By role, I mean importance as a character, not regarding the actor).
Cameo in Civil War openly supporting the registration act under his legit businessman persona.
RoninChaos
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The kid that played Fulton Reed is Foggy Nelson?
DonasaurusRex
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Spiderman 2 comes to mind otto was a tragic villain in that one. Oh and Mr Glass from Unbreakable.
I wonder how much the show will take from Miller's run. The style, costume and stuff like Jack Murdock's boxing fight and him being trained by Stick is in. But I wonder if the whole plot of Mickey and the prostitute girl business of the mob is in too, brings the moment where Matt becomes a man, with it.
Or if they will mix things from other runs as well. So that they take from all these stories but where the main inspiration is Miller's run.
Or if they will mix things from other runs as well. So that they take from all these stories but where the main inspiration is Miller's run.
The show seems to be pretty much all Miller with a dash of Bendis based on the trailer. i imagine they may invert this by season 2 And honestly I would be perfectly fine with this.
GuitarAtomik
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I said it before, but the logo would look better and fit the tone more if it was just straight flat red over black instead of the 3D version. I know it's basically a "Hey look, it's live action and we need to jazz it up and make it pop!" but it doesn't work attached to this. It needs to take a more grindhousey, graphic, Sin City-ish approach. Basically this:
The series is not Miller's run or Bendis' run. I totally believe DeKnight when he says that it only draws inspiration but the story is original, because that's exactly what it looks like.
Miller's Man Without Fear is a graphic novel, not really part of his "run" so to speak, and the only things they seem to be taking from it is the black proto-costume. The actual origin story Miller imagined is heavily Elektra-centric and mostly takes place before Matt is even a lawyer. That's not going to be a big part of the series at all.
Miller's actual run in Daredevil also heavily involves things which are clearly not in the series - Bullseye, Elektra, Heather Glenn. The main thing which we see in the trailers so far is that Kingpin is indeed "returning" to Hell's Kitchen to make his mark there, so that's similar to what Miller did, but even then the tone and context is very different. The Kingpin here appears to be pre-Vanessa, a younger and maybe a bit more idealistic Kingpin. Not the ganglord who tried to walk away and got dragged back in.
The only time Miller ever used Karen Page was in Born Again, and Bendis never got to use her. So that stuff is all going to be drawing from other stuff or created to fit the context of the show. They're also introducing Daredevil as a character here, so it seems premature to even touch the idea of him being outed. The tone we've seen is definitely very similar to the sort of hard crime story Bendis did, but it seems to be mostly the atmosphere, rather than actual narrative.
If anything, I'll say DeKnight's version of Daredevil here is sort of a "what if a Miller style Daredevil story is retold right from the beginning without being limited to a prequel story like Man Without Fear, and was illustrated by Alex Maleev".
Miller's Man Without Fear is a graphic novel, not really part of his "run" so to speak, and the only things they seem to be taking from it is the black proto-costume. The actual origin story Miller imagined is heavily Elektra-centric and mostly takes place before Matt is even a lawyer. That's not going to be a big part of the series at all.
Miller's actual run in Daredevil also heavily involves things which are clearly not in the series - Bullseye, Elektra, Heather Glenn. The main thing which we see in the trailers so far is that Kingpin is indeed "returning" to Hell's Kitchen to make his mark there, so that's similar to what Miller did, but even then the tone and context is very different. The Kingpin here appears to be pre-Vanessa, a younger and maybe a bit more idealistic Kingpin. Not the ganglord who tried to walk away and got dragged back in.
The only time Miller ever used Karen Page was in Born Again, and Bendis never got to use her. So that stuff is all going to be drawing from other stuff or created to fit the context of the show. They're also introducing Daredevil as a character here, so it seems premature to even touch the idea of him being outed. The tone we've seen is definitely very similar to the sort of hard crime story Bendis did, but it seems to be mostly the atmosphere, rather than actual narrative.
If anything, I'll say DeKnight's version of Daredevil here is sort of a "what if a Miller style Daredevil story is retold right from the beginning without being limited to a prequel story like Man Without Fear, and was illustrated by Alex Maleev".
This is what I'm thinking as well. Just finished reading the whole "Man Without Fear" arc again a minute ago, and the Netflix series doesn't seem to take much from it, which I am perfectly fine with. The trailers make the show seem super interesting.
The series is not Miller's run or Bendis' run. I totally believe DeKnight when he says that it only draws inspiration but the story is original, because that's exactly what it looks like.
Miller's Man Without Fear is a graphic novel, not really part of his "run" so to speak, and the only things they seem to be taking from it is the black proto-costume. The actual origin story Miller imagined is heavily Elektra-centric and mostly takes place before Matt is even a lawyer. That's not going to be a big part of the series at all.
Miller's actual run in Daredevil also heavily involves things which are clearly not in the series - Bullseye, Elektra, Heather Glenn. The main thing which we see in the trailers so far is that Kingpin is indeed "returning" to Hell's Kitchen to make his mark there, so that's similar to what Miller did, but even then the tone and context is very different. The Kingpin here appears to be pre-Vanessa, a younger and maybe a bit more idealistic Kingpin. Not the ganglord who tried to walk away and got dragged back in.
The only time Miller ever used Karen Page was in Born Again, and Bendis never got to use her. So that stuff is all going to be drawing from other stuff or created to fit the context of the show. They're also introducing Daredevil as a character here, so it seems premature to even touch the idea of him being outed. The tone we've seen is definitely very similar to the sort of hard crime story Bendis did, but it seems to be mostly the atmosphere, rather than actual narrative.
If anything, I'll say DeKnight's version of Daredevil here is sort of a "what if a Miller style Daredevil story is retold right from the beginning without being limited to a prequel story like Man Without Fear, and was illustrated by Alex Maleev".
Your description is way better it does seem like a mixture of Miller's grittiness in Bendis' modern setting. When you talk about DD being outed do you mean by the press or just the
Kingpin finding out his identity? Fisk seems to be chatting to Matt and I can't recall any stupid Batman voice silliness. I don't know what direction the series will take, from the trailer it seems that they are planting the seeds of a hard crime story with Ben Urich and Matt Murdock, love triangle with Matt and Foggy, powerplays between Fisk and rival gangs, cat and mouse games between Matt and Fisk, and laying the foundation for Japan/Elektra related elements cos of the Ninja. This is all without mentioning the Defenders, I am not sure how far in advance Deknight and crew are thinking ahead but I love the potential directions they may go.
Guardian Angel takes place just before Bendis' run. It's not in the far future. There's an important event in it in terms of the ongoing Daredevil storyline, but I'm not a fan of the story at all.
In terms of what? When it was written? There's lots there since Daredevil is an ongoing comic, but I've never read any of that. There are literally hundreds of issues of Daredevil over the decades. Smith's arc started a renumbering though, which then leads into Bendis' run, is continued in Brubaker's run, and then concludes with the Shadowland stuff by Diggle. After that there was a soft reboot of sorts with Daredevil Reborn, which led to the current Waid run.
MuddyDonut
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Admiral Woofington
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I've never read daredevil and completely erased the Affleck movie out of my head. So when they said he's a lawyer my friend and I imagined how his creation happened.
"Justice is...blind"
"Oh my god Derek blind superhero that dresses like a devil write it down man quick!"
"Justice is...blind"
"Oh my god Derek blind superhero that dresses like a devil write it down man quick!"
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I liked Cox's delivery of the line "We're nothing alike."
It feels different from the way he speaks as Murdock. It kinda feels like how Kevin Conroy's Batman voice is simply at a different register than his Bruce voice. So they sound very different, but also quite alike.
Also like how the Kingpin seems more soft-spoken than with a booming voice.
It feels different from the way he speaks as Murdock. It kinda feels like how Kevin Conroy's Batman voice is simply at a different register than his Bruce voice. So they sound very different, but also quite alike.
Also like how the Kingpin seems more soft-spoken than with a booming voice.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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I love that it seems like just so much love went into the show. They really seem to have nailed everything.
This, Agent Carter, and SHIELD (now firing on full cylinder), the MCU is killing me with awesomeness, hahaha.
This, Agent Carter, and SHIELD (now firing on full cylinder), the MCU is killing me with awesomeness, hahaha.
More_Badass
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I really want the song from that trailer
Anyone know what it is?
Anyone know what it is?
Delta Assault
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Hmmm. Well, I love the actor they got to play Foggy. He was great in Cheats and The Butterfly Effect.
And I love the actress they got to play Karen Page. Karen's always been the one great love of Murdock's life, IMO.
And Vincent D'Onofrio is obviously great.
Only real question now is the guy playing Daredevil. If he's up to the task, this is going to be an amazing show.
And I love the actress they got to play Karen Page. Karen's always been the one great love of Murdock's life, IMO.
And Vincent D'Onofrio is obviously great.
Only real question now is the guy playing Daredevil. If he's up to the task, this is going to be an amazing show.
Original track for the show probably, lyrics aren't making any hits online.
Kind of sounds like Ian Astbury https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSsMGNwYDdg
CrunchyFrog
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lol yeah I noticed that too
You would think the song would have available for download around the same time as the trailer. they should've known there was gonna be demand for it. So much $$ making potential. If they wait to long people may forget about it.
GringoLOCOo
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I bet the song is part of the soundtrack to the show that comes out on April 10th, but at the same time i do agree they could of released this song as a teaser for the soundtrack.
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