Thanks for almost making me spit out my coffee laughing. Hahaha!
This fact come from your think only , not true at allPeople who complain the most about every game are the same people who don't believe in paying full price for a game supporting it but want everything to there liking.
I can't really comprehend why some legit criticism on certain facets of Spiderman 2' graphics is seen as a 'declaration of war' by certain parties. Why to take it so personally and see the other party as 'ennemies or traitors', that's just ridiculous and childish.
Am I allowed to be really excited for the game still? Even if it doesn't look much different than the original / miles morales?
We here not tell anyone to not be existed for the game , we talk here about what make us disappointed from that showcase for usAm I allowed to be really excited for the game still? Even if it doesn't look much different than the original / miles morales?
Yes yes of course, if this game was on XSX it would look 20% better. It's all about teraflops.They only have 10 teraflops to play with.
/Threadit doesn't look bad, it just looks like miles morales, which was a crossgen game, so yeah not what was expected for a this gen only game. that teaser from years ago and matrix awakens didn't help either
Because people are insecure and have tied their identities and self worth to the success of their favorite sports teams and console box makersI can't really comprehend why some legit criticism on certain facets of Spiderman 2' graphics is seen as a 'declaration of war' by certain parties. Why to take it so personally and see the other party as 'ennemies or traitors', that's just ridiculous and childish.
Nah, one dingus does not invalidate the people who are understandably underwhelmed by the visuals on display. It looks like a ps4 game, which is fine, most ps4 games still look great. But i expected something closer to horizon forbidden west (another cross gen title) or demons soulsThe people complaining about Spider-Man 2 visuals:
Horizon Forbidden West is an exception to be honest. No game or studio has been able to match that. And in Spider-Man 2's defense, HFW does not have as fast of a traversal system as can be seen in Spider-Man 2. SM 2's is magnitude faster.Nah, one dingus does not invalidate the people who are understandably underwhelmed by the visuals on display. It looks like a ps4 game, which is fine, most ps4 games still look great. But i expected something closer to horizon forbidden west (another cross gen title) or demons souls
It looks nice in that screenshot, and in that sequence that is probably a cut scene and not gameplay, but the rest of the presentation was lackingHorizon Forbidden West is an exception to be honest. No game or studio has been able to match that. And in Spider-Man 2's defense, HFW does not have as fast of a traversal system as can be seen in Spider-Man 2. SM 2's is magnitude faster.
As for your 1st point, I wholeheartedly disagree. The game is a significant improvement over even the PS5 Remastered version of Spider-Man, let alone the PS4 version.
The draw distance, lighting, details, foliage, density: everything is up even when compared to Spider-Man PS5.
Bonus shot that I loved:
It looks nice in that screenshot, and in that sequence that is probably a cut scene and not gameplay, but the rest of the presentation was lacking
So you called people's who want a better visuals and experience in their next gen machines as it always happens in previous generations or other games like horizon forbidden west (graphic whores)Pleasing graphic whores is unwinnable battle, they alway want something more and devs have spend more development time and resources (which could use for actual game) in order make those graphic whores happy, while those same people complain why games not coming out faster or don’t take more risks.
It’s never ending cycle, this is why Nintendo and most Japanese devs stopped with all that graphic race nonsense.
Unfortunately western devs no longer have that choice.
The people complaining about Spider-Man 2 visuals:
Because you gus acting like its most ugliest game ever made, the fact the visuals still good but not up to your high standard.....so yes I would call that being graphics whore.So you called people's who want a better visuals and experience in their next gen machines as it always happens in previous generations or other games like horizon forbidden west (graphic whores)
Really what's this shit ?
That's just a glitch in the matrix.
Real life needs better developers goddammit! They can’t even be bothered to add proper AO to the parking poles.
There is a difference between realtime cutscene and gameplay, -> real time cutscene uses higher details models , better lighting and graphics effects because of full control over cutscene camera position on the other hand gameplay lighting and models can't match those one's in real time cutscenes , and games like horizon forbidden west improved their technology to close the gab between real time cutscene and gameplay and that's not the case on spider man 2But Insomniac has been doing seamless transition from real-time cutscene to gameplay so what difference would it make?
Oh great another developer apology letter…That's just a glitch in the matrix.
No one said that most ugliest game we disappointed about what we seen and I don't even put high standard I compare it with cross gen title like hfw, you either not read the theard title or not read most of people comments here , you come here to disrespect other members and say anything about something you don't know about and that's just shitBecause you gus acting like its most ugliest game ever made, the fact the visuals still good but not up to your high standard.....so yes I would call that being graphics whore.
And trust me I have ZERO love for this or any other Marvel/DC crap.
The game is just more of the same. So yes, we should expect a better improvement in graphical fidelity for a game made a generation later.Because you gus acting like its most ugliest game ever made, the fact the visuals still good but not up to your high standard.....so yes I would call that being graphics whore.
And trust me I have ZERO love for this or any other Marvel/DC crap.
Iook at majority of thread on GAF, every time, every fucking time new game gets announced people whine about how they are disappointed with graphics and why it its not "next gen" enough. Same shit happen with Elden Ring, FFXVI and even with Dragon Dogma 2 and now this. called it "disrespect" but you guys obsessing over graphic waaaaay too much.No one said that most ugliest game we disappointed about what we seen and I don't even put high standard I compare it with cross gen title like hfw, you either not read the theard title or not read most of people comments here , you come here to disrespect other members and say anything about something you don't know about and that's just shit
Then to me people should be more concerned about the combat not evolving much rather than worry about graphics.The game is just more of the same. So yes, we should expect a better improvement in graphical fidelity for a game made a generation later.
I am not disappointed about those other gamed because they gave me what I expect from their studios and looks now better than their intial teaser trailer s like ffxvi I disappointed for sony first party title which come from insomniac which reveal it in 2021 showcase with shockingly good 1 min teaser and say that's real time captured in ps5 and then find myself show that gameplay showcase with ps4 level of visuals and gameplay experience and not even on par with cross gen title (hfw) and thats what that's make me sad and Disappointed .also In comments here you will find me tell that's its gameplay not improved eitherIook at majority of thread on GAF, every time, every fucking time new game gets announced people whine about how they are disappointed with graphics and why it its not "next gen" enough. Same shit happen with Elden Ring, FFXVI and even with Dragon Dogma 2 and now this. called it "disrespect" but you guys obsessing over graphic waaaaay too much.
Then to me people should be more concerned about the combat not evolving much rather than worry about graphics.
Real life needs better developers goddammit! They can’t even be bothered to add proper AO to the parking poles.
between PS5 and PS5ProThis looks like a cross-gen title to me.
You worry too much what other people think.Iook at majority of thread on GAF, every time, every fucking time new game gets announced people whine about how they are disappointed with graphics and why it its not "next gen" enough. Same shit happen with Elden Ring, FFXVI and even with Dragon Dogma 2 and now this. called it "disrespect" but you guys obsessing over graphic waaaaay too much.
Then to me people should be more concerned about the combat not evolving much rather than worry about graphics.
Nah man it’s obviously just lazy devs.Fucking DX12 ..
If you see the recent threads people complain how games taking longer to release or how devs will less to take risk and to me this high expectations of even higher expectations for graphic fidelity causing problems.I am not disappointed about those other gamed because they gave me what I expect from their studios and looks now better than their intial teaser trailer s like ffxvi I disappointed for sony first party title which come from insomniac which reveal it in 2021 showcase with shockingly good 1 min teaser and say that's real time captured in ps5 and then find myself show that gameplay showcase with ps4 level of visuals and gameplay experience and not even on par with cross gen title (hfw) and thats what that's make me sad and Disappointed .also In comments here you will find me tell that's its gameplay not improved either
Because it becomes a problem when whole forums gets filling with people whining about graphics in EVERY thread.You worry too much what other people think.
No , better visuals and gameplay experience that our major priority , that why we spend money in next gen consoles either we could stick with our last gen consolesIf you see the recent threads people complain how games taking longer to release or how devs will less to take risk and to me this high expectations of even higher expectations for graphic fidelity causing problems.
All I’m saying is people need to shift their priorities to something more important.
There is a time and a place when discussing graphics. A next generation exclusive not looking any different is one of those times. This crusade of yours I can understand and sympathize with. This is not the time or thread to have it.Because it becomes a problem when whole forums gets filling with people whining about graphics in EVERY thread.
You will find players who will want better gameplay and other who want better graphics thats what makes players buy next gen machines and if they don't find that I think that there own right to make theards in all fourms about their expectationsBecause it becomes a problem when whole forums gets filling with people whining about graphics in EVERY thread.
I thought I just read in this very thread that the entire thing was a cutscene and the gameplay was completely on rails. But the screen with flying miles was from the 'gameplay' part, if you do choose to differentiate the two parts of the presentation.It looks nice in that screenshot, and in that sequence that is probably a cut scene and not gameplay, but the rest of the presentation was lacking
The way I remember it - the first time HFW showed any gameplay, this forum and the rest of internet was complaining how much PS4-gen it looked, and how it was not impressive at all, and held-back by the cross-gen etc etc.Horizon Forbidden West is an exception to be honest.
There is a difference between realtime cutscene and gameplay, -> real time cutscene uses higher details models , better lighting and graphics effects because of full control over cutscene camera position on the other hand gameplay lighting and models can't match those one's in real time cutscenes , and games like horizon forbidden west improved their technology to close the gab between real time cutscene and gameplay and that's not the case on spider man 2
No , horizon reveal gameplay even looks better than final build , people who act like that do that because they disappointed in it being cross gen title , and thats not the case here for spiderman 2The way I remember it - the first time HFW showed any gameplay, this forum and the rest of internet was complaining how much PS4-gen it looked, and how it was not impressive at all, and held-back by the cross-gen etc etc.
It wasn't until game actually released that sentiment shifted.
May be you true but I think other sony studio (ND) said their use higher Detailed models in real time cutscenesAnd I'm correcting you by saying ratchet and miles morales use the same assets and character models whether in game or cutscene. The only change would be cinematic lighting for different cutscenes.
It's literally doubling down on the exact same argument (Cross-gen holds games back), ie. Spiderman 2 should look much better because it's exclusive now.No , horizon reveal gameplay even looks better than final build , people who act like that do that because they disappointed in it being cross gen title , and thats not the case here for spiderman 2
Well then when we get new gameplay trailer for Armored Core VI and I see people complaining about graphics I will go for so hard on your asses that they will change my tag to “meanest morherfucker on the forum”.There is a time and a place when discussing graphics. A next generation exclusive not looking any different is one of those times. This crusade of yours I can understand and sympathize with. This is not the time or thread to have it.
I will end up happy if spiderman 2 ends looks better, what they shown really Disappointed me because it's same from either visual and gameplay experience that's not the case with horizon forbidden west which looks very difference than horizon zero dawn in its first trailer and most of people's praise it's visuals and minor of them complain about it and thats not the case with spiderman 2It's literally doubling down on the exact same argument (Cross-gen holds games back), ie. Spiderman 2 should look much better because it's exclusive now.
But that's irrelevant to the point I made. Current Internet sentiment is that HFW is near the top of best looking games to-date for this gen - meanwhile, the pre-launch discourse was (on the forums at least) primarily negative with regards to the visuals.
The way I remember it - the first time HFW showed any gameplay, this forum and the rest of internet was complaining how much PS4-gen it looked, and how it was not impressive at all, and held-back by the cross-gen etc etc.
It wasn't until game actually released that sentiment shifted.
It’s a ‘From Software’ game you don’t get the ass hurt till you see in-game frame pacing…Unless you have VRR and in that case you’re an asshat because I don’t have it… but when I do get it I will just recognize myself as a fellow asshat.Well then when we get new gameplay trailer for Armored Core VI and I see people complaining about graphics I will go for so hard on your asses that they will change my tag to “meanest morherfucker on the forum”.
Hold on to your asses.