SneakersSO
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I'm 4 episodes in. For context: Loved S1 & S2 of DD, really enjoyed JJ although I had a few gripes here & there, didn't get into Luke Cage (felt like it was spinning its wheels in the 1st half, 2nd half just bored me to sleep almost nightly), and Iron Fist basically got turned off after the 1st episode.
So, missing IF makes me feel like i'm missing out on a lot of the setup here. I have no idea who Alexandra or any of the other plot elements that have to do with Iron Fist. And everything about his depiction in his show is back here & dialed to 11 - I legitimately cannot stand watching a scene with him. For starters, as someone who has a rough idea of Iron Fist from the comics & genuinely finds the concept fascinating, Danny Rand's depiction here is just unbelievable amounts of shit. Maybe its cause the concept of having this badass martial artists who is meant to be the most advanced fighter around look like he is flailing about half the time, or that he never even utilizes his unique power set, but Danny just comes off as a petulant child.
In Iron Fist, he starts the show by basically going around saying who he is & that he wants what is his birthright. And now he just goes around saying he's the Immortal Iron Fist, as if that makes it so. I keep being reminded of Tywin Lannister's "Any man who says they are a king is no king." line whenever Danny refers to himself & how awesome he supposedly is. The worst part is, I do want Iron Fist on the show. I just want one that is depicted far different (better) then the nonsense in this adaptation.
There is something about the way this show is shot that just 'feels' cheap. Its hard to describe. There are a lot of angles & such that feel almost like a fan/amateur attempt at directing a TV show about their favorite heroes. I had to actually go back & check out Daredevil & some of my favorite moments from that show to remind myself that it wasn't my imagination - the scene framing & shot direction was just far better on the show. Doubly so for the fights. The only person display any amount of decent fight choreography is DD. I also gotta say just how supremely underwhelmed I am that 'The Black Sky' that got built up in DD season 2 turned out to be a revived Elektra who is a little bit stronger. Like, she isn't even Luke Cage levels of strength so far, she's just a little stronger then daredevil, seems weaker than JJ. There just ain't a whole lot threatening about her.
And what is The Hand's deal? Like, why is having a badass martial artist on their payroll (Elektra) the key to their success, so much so that they pulled out all the stops for in DD S2? Like, I thought these people had a master plan here? World domination & access to mystical realm stuff that none of the heroes would be able to deal with. Like, I remember that initial episode with Stick in S1 of DD & how that kid in the van was way more than he appeared. And its like... now I just get the feeling the kid might've been extra good at martial arts or something. I dunno. This is all over the place. I understand a few of them want to be immortal. The cheeky joke they keep doing with Alexandra, how she'll reference a historical place as if she was there, only to be corrected by some informed onlooker about some detail she got wrong, even though she was right cause she was actually there, is getting a bit stale. They've done it three times now, and i'm only 4 episodes in.
The reality is, I just don't feel any stakes or build up here. No one feels like they have any skin in the game with the exception of Matt due to Elektra. I guess Rand is avenging (yeah that's a pun) some martial arts nation/place he was at but I have zero investment in anything going on with him & his story line, and that Kun-lun place never even got built up in the few episodes of Iron Fist I skimmed through, so its not like there is any particular attachment to that place or the cast that inhabited it. Cage is there because of that White Hat guy but I really don't know who that is or why I should care. I actually enjoyed why Jessica got pulled into all of this but I get the feeling she isn't gonna get much more motivation besides that.
Also gotta say, considering i'm 4 episodes deep, the pacing just feels wayyyyyy slower. I felt like a lot more happened with these characters in their own respective shows by this time. They'd be at least mid-way through an arc or something. This just feels like its just getting started but we're halfway through the show. And I have the distinct feeling this ain't gonna get better.
So, missing IF makes me feel like i'm missing out on a lot of the setup here. I have no idea who Alexandra or any of the other plot elements that have to do with Iron Fist. And everything about his depiction in his show is back here & dialed to 11 - I legitimately cannot stand watching a scene with him. For starters, as someone who has a rough idea of Iron Fist from the comics & genuinely finds the concept fascinating, Danny Rand's depiction here is just unbelievable amounts of shit. Maybe its cause the concept of having this badass martial artists who is meant to be the most advanced fighter around look like he is flailing about half the time, or that he never even utilizes his unique power set, but Danny just comes off as a petulant child.
In Iron Fist, he starts the show by basically going around saying who he is & that he wants what is his birthright. And now he just goes around saying he's the Immortal Iron Fist, as if that makes it so. I keep being reminded of Tywin Lannister's "Any man who says they are a king is no king." line whenever Danny refers to himself & how awesome he supposedly is. The worst part is, I do want Iron Fist on the show. I just want one that is depicted far different (better) then the nonsense in this adaptation.
There is something about the way this show is shot that just 'feels' cheap. Its hard to describe. There are a lot of angles & such that feel almost like a fan/amateur attempt at directing a TV show about their favorite heroes. I had to actually go back & check out Daredevil & some of my favorite moments from that show to remind myself that it wasn't my imagination - the scene framing & shot direction was just far better on the show. Doubly so for the fights. The only person display any amount of decent fight choreography is DD. I also gotta say just how supremely underwhelmed I am that 'The Black Sky' that got built up in DD season 2 turned out to be a revived Elektra who is a little bit stronger. Like, she isn't even Luke Cage levels of strength so far, she's just a little stronger then daredevil, seems weaker than JJ. There just ain't a whole lot threatening about her.
And what is The Hand's deal? Like, why is having a badass martial artist on their payroll (Elektra) the key to their success, so much so that they pulled out all the stops for in DD S2? Like, I thought these people had a master plan here? World domination & access to mystical realm stuff that none of the heroes would be able to deal with. Like, I remember that initial episode with Stick in S1 of DD & how that kid in the van was way more than he appeared. And its like... now I just get the feeling the kid might've been extra good at martial arts or something. I dunno. This is all over the place. I understand a few of them want to be immortal. The cheeky joke they keep doing with Alexandra, how she'll reference a historical place as if she was there, only to be corrected by some informed onlooker about some detail she got wrong, even though she was right cause she was actually there, is getting a bit stale. They've done it three times now, and i'm only 4 episodes in.
The reality is, I just don't feel any stakes or build up here. No one feels like they have any skin in the game with the exception of Matt due to Elektra. I guess Rand is avenging (yeah that's a pun) some martial arts nation/place he was at but I have zero investment in anything going on with him & his story line, and that Kun-lun place never even got built up in the few episodes of Iron Fist I skimmed through, so its not like there is any particular attachment to that place or the cast that inhabited it. Cage is there because of that White Hat guy but I really don't know who that is or why I should care. I actually enjoyed why Jessica got pulled into all of this but I get the feeling she isn't gonna get much more motivation besides that.
Also gotta say, considering i'm 4 episodes deep, the pacing just feels wayyyyyy slower. I felt like a lot more happened with these characters in their own respective shows by this time. They'd be at least mid-way through an arc or something. This just feels like its just getting started but we're halfway through the show. And I have the distinct feeling this ain't gonna get better.