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Mass Effect 20 min E3 demonstration (IGN)
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Lostconfused
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AdmiralViscen said:
Dont be surprised if half of it is missing when it gets there.
godhandiscen
There are millions of whiny 5-year olds on Earth, and I AM THEIR KING.
Please Bioware fix those framerate drops.
UncleGuito
Banned
Like I say every Mass Effect thread, this game will be absolutely amazing. GOTY without a doubt.
You sure that isn't your player? The video was really smooth for me, as have been the last few E3 and onwards.godhandiscen said:
MMaRsu said:
Ya, it's completely out of sync on two of my boxes. Even when I save the film and run it in a few different players. Makes it almost unwatchable.
I hate shoddy encoding by sites like IGN and Gamespot lately. The last On the Spot was completely out of sync. Pathetic.
UncleGuito said:
It's not so much the framerate, but that it stutters every now and again. Particularly when triggering an event, shooting, etc. It has had this problem the whole time, even the x06 gameplay trailer.
But, yes, we're in July and I have no doubt they'll sort it out by November.
As I said countless times before, the battles look absolutely horrible. Without a doubt the worst battle engine I've ever seen in a Bioware game and I thought that Jade Empire's was pretty good and fitting for the kind of game it was. The battle engine KILLS the game for me and I hate the fact that the game can win awards with such an obvious flaw based on its name or the name of its developer alone.
Can't wait for the first 7.5 reviews and the GAF reaction.
BUT IT HAS WON SO MANY BEST OF E3 AWARDS BUBUBU
Can't wait for the first 7.5 reviews and the GAF reaction.
BUT IT HAS WON SO MANY BEST OF E3 AWARDS BUBUBU
the game looks pretty boner-inducing but the faces don't seem to display the emotion i was led to believe they would, it shouldn't even be a talking point judging from that video, and the va sounds like it's from the house of the dead (suffer like g did, lol - rip bjork).
but the graphics and gameplay etc. look hot though.
but the graphics and gameplay etc. look hot though.
Frenck said:
It's not going to get 7.5s. :lol
Maybe it will be better looking to you when you have more abilities and more in-depth control of your squad. In that video that I saw (gamespot), I wasn't quite sure what was going on.
I didn't know it was a realtime shooter though. Should be something unique in an rpg.
I don't understand the criticisms of the battle system. Looks like they can expand on the sort of gunplay you saw in KOTOR (but you never used because you had lightsabers)
Also, dead faces? Mass Effect has some of the most expressive faces ever seen. I don't know what that comes from.
Also, dead faces? Mass Effect has some of the most expressive faces ever seen. I don't know what that comes from.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
The voice acting seemed fine to me.
What's wrong with the battle system?
Uncanny valley.
Frenck said:
What's wrong with the battle system?
Speevy said:
Uncanny valley.
Speevy said:
Hell no.
I'm playing through KotOR 2 currently and I disagree.
There is so much motion in the KotOR shootouts, characters are dodging shots left and right and they react when they get hit maybe that's due to it being round based but it looks much more fluid and exciting than Mass Effect.
Mass Effect tries to be two games at once, a world class KotOR style RPG which it isn't and a GRAW style world class Third Person Shooter which it sure as hell doesn't even come close to. It looks so lifeless and plain during the battle sequences.
The gunplay in KotOR beats Mass Effect in terms of style, depth and sheer atmosphere not to mention that the magic seems hilariously out of place in Mass Effect.
manxor said:
Yeah I get it, they are game industry veterans and I'm just a lowly consumer. They are proud of their combat engine and as all the cowardly gaming journalists pat them on the back and tell them how awesome it is in order to get some Bioware exclusives in the future I can't see how they will ever take any criticism seriously.
But maybe Mass Effect is a lesson they need to learn.
Zombie James
Banned
I'm so gay for this game. Oh shit, can't wait to get my hands on this 
My whole thing is the "game is unfinished" part, and developer pedigree. From what I saw of E3 media, I'd have to agree with your gameplay points.Frenck said:
What has sold me on gameplay was the ?X06 demo "specialized squad members" section. Judging only the combat from E3 vids, the physics look wonky, there's not many enemies onscreen, the AI and their animations look bad and lack variety, and the framerate stutter and missing frames/popping all combine to fail my interest.
I still believe this will be GOTY, that somehow will all this will be ironed out.
Frenck said:
It's not.
And here's a tip about the Star Wars universe. No one uses the word "magic" there either.
It's a video game. Characters have cool abilities.
The best I can say for you is that at least you're not another anti-KOTOR person. Bioware seems to get more enemies with each game they make.
Mass Effect looks like a game I've been wanting to play since watching star wars, however the battle system does not look so appealing. It looks like GRAW mix with with resident evil with FPS controls.
Nice crystal ball you have there. Honestly I think this game will do good, but that does not mean everyone will like it.
Speevy said:
Nice crystal ball you have there. Honestly I think this game will do good, but that does not mean everyone will like it.
Lostconfused
Member
Wow canned animations that are played over and over again is what goes for depth around here?
Jokes aside, i think it would be amazing if bioware went for some outside talent to tweak the combat system, because thats probably the only real flaw this game might have.
Jokes aside, i think it would be amazing if bioware went for some outside talent to tweak the combat system, because thats probably the only real flaw this game might have.
I don't want to sound like a troll, I'm really not a troll. I love Bioware and I don't want them to fail. There are some things that I like about Mass Effect, like the conversations or the scale and in some cases the graphics (which somehow fluctuate between CG quality and Xbox quality).
Additionally, and maybe I'm a bit too pessimistic here, I can't see Bioware making any significant changes to Mass Effect if the gaming press is so deep up their asses. Nobody tells them "But you're still working on the AI right? Cause that looks a little rough" or "The combat animations need a bit more work it looks quite lifeless now".
So why would they change anything if they get awards for their alpha code without anyone questioning the game?
The worst thing about the situation is that the gaming press will betray them in the end, they are going to criticise those aspects in their reviews even though they didn't pick up on them during the E3 demonstrations where their feedback would've been welcomed.
Additionally, and maybe I'm a bit too pessimistic here, I can't see Bioware making any significant changes to Mass Effect if the gaming press is so deep up their asses. Nobody tells them "But you're still working on the AI right? Cause that looks a little rough" or "The combat animations need a bit more work it looks quite lifeless now".
So why would they change anything if they get awards for their alpha code without anyone questioning the game?
The worst thing about the situation is that the gaming press will betray them in the end, they are going to criticise those aspects in their reviews even though they didn't pick up on them during the E3 demonstrations where their feedback would've been welcomed.
Wow, i have to say, after watching this, for some reason I've lost quite a bit of hype on this... I mean, it looks great (minus some animations), I love that it reminds me of buck rodgers for some reason... The story "choices" stuff is cool... But man, the gameplay just looks like it's lacking something(s)... I dunno.. 
Woo-Fu
Banned
oldboy1 said:
Being able to walk up to an enemy, then toss him into the air, rendering him completely defenseless might seem cool, but it removes every bit of challenge from an encounter like that.
It is one of those things that seems cool at first, but once you've done it 50 times and realize how many different encounters it breaks the coolness wears off.
Now I'm not saying that is how it will play out with this game, but that is how it plays out in the demos we've seen out of e3.
This demo also had at least one enemy standing there trying to shoot you but just hitting his own cover over and over again, that has to be fixed.
Woo-Fu
Banned
Speevy said:
Might have something to do with making console action RPGs when their fanbase was originally made up entirely of hardcore PC RPG folks. Yeah, I'm one of them, and yeah, I was underwhelmed by KotoR and JE.
Speevy said:
Read a bit of sci-fi, you'll find that melee weapons are quite often favored in a pressurized environment. Your minigun might be more efficient at killing, but if you hole the habitat/spaceship you're dead too.
rollingstart
Banned
Speevy said:
that makes me wonder if there is ammo for the guns, because swords would be good if you ran out.
rebel^pudding
Banned
Frenck said:
I understand completely what your saying, and ive felt the same way about other games. But we dont know what the game press really says to developers. And thats what forums are for. Ive made several threads on the mass effect forums before questioning the graphics when those poor screens came out
Woo-Fu
Banned
Speevy said:
I'm not rating the platform, I'm rating the developer. They're capable of making much better RPGs, regardless of what platform they're working on.
The design choices made for their console games have less to do with the hardware than they have to do with the target audience.
Lostconfused
Member
Woo-Fu said:
Do we really need to get into this debate? Its more likely the swords are in there is because the creator wanted them to be there.
Biowares greatest gem is the baldurs gate series. Anything after that wont live up to that standard. Oh and kotor was better then Neverwinter Nights and, heck neverwinter nighs felt like a console rpg at times. The only thing that saved it was online play and the ability to make your own modules.