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Mass Effect 3 Debut Trailer - Holiday 2011 - 360/PS3/PC

Holiday 2011 is going to be killer. Between this and ESV I is a happy man. A lot of time will be sunk in both. I do hope these brings the best elements of ME1 and 2 together. Then it will a masterpiece. Oh yea plot direction is fine with me. Wait and see at this point.
 
The concept is cool but it looks too Gears of War-sy. Are those ammo clips I saw? Damnit they're back! And the suit looks the same as ME2; does that mean we still can't wear full armor pieces? What are they going to change from ME2? It all looks the same.
 
I do agree that we're taking the whole "Earth thing" a bit far, but it's simply because some fans of the first game felt stung by ME2's smaller scale and weaker main story, and hope that the final game in the Shepard trilogy will be everything it can be, instead of sacrificing some fan-favorite elements for more mass market ones.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
A bit. This is kind of based on the assumption of the eventual "man humans are awesome" thing.
The "humans are the best" thing is definitely disappointing, but it's not going to mean that ME3 is going to center around Earth. Maybe Earth will be the final battle, or maybe the opening battle, but I can't see any scenario where the majority of the game won't be in the larger universe.
 
Dance In My Blood said:
How would they track this? Are there like census inspectors strolling between the space ships taking a body count?
There was a great disturbance in the extranet, as if millions of omni-tools suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.
ChoklitReign said:
And the suit looks the same as ME2; does that mean we still can't wear full armor pieces?
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See, I quite like the idea that humanity is totally and utterly fucked without everybody else helping them. As stupid as I think the returning Reapers thing is, I can dig Earth getting torn a new one, completely defenceless.
 
EatChildren said:
See, I quite like the idea that humanity is totally and utterly fucked without everybody else helping them. As stupid as I think the returning Reapers thing is, I can dig Earth getting torn a new one, completely defenceless.
I hope ME3 ends (or begins) with Shepard destroying all the Reapers on Earth by shooting a planet-destroying gun at it.

Then the golden age of batarian culture can begin.
 
I think it would be interesting ending if the Reapers are defeated at Earth, but at the cost of Earth. Any future games would have an interesting atmosphere that humans are basically going extinct (since the vast majority of human population is still on Earth).

Of course then we'll find that Earth being destroyed, perhaps becoming radioactive, ends up being good because it forces humans exploration and expansion :p
 
I for one cannot wait to see how utterly pointless ME2 was in the grand scheme of things. I'm sure we'll know within the first few hours of ME3 when only 2-3 choices actually carry over and we're off recruiting a new squad.
 
a Master Ninja said:

I think that meant the modular, swappable pieces of armor (chestplate, gauntlets, et cetera) seen in ME2 as opposed to the full suits of armor seen in ME1. At this point, I'd be glad if they give the women anything to wear besides leather when bullets start flying.

And I for one would be happy to see how the Prothean discovery and entry into the galactic community has changed Earth. (While we're at it, a side mission on that always-mentioned Arcturus would also be nice.) Parts of Earth have apparently turned into paradise, the domestic nature of the Alliance has always been left unclear beyond the codex, and hey, most humans still live there as opposed to some colony. Depending on who you chose, Shepard had a bad childhood there. Should all of that really be ignored throughout? Seems like an obvious thing to settle.

I'm more worried about how, or if, BioWare, resolves what happened in ME2 (like Shepard with Cerberus) and keeps the ending from seeming too anticlimactic for its own good. ME2 is something I remember fondly, but boy.
 
Chairman Yang said:
The "humans are the best" thing is definitely disappointing, but it's not going to mean that ME3 is going to center around Earth. Maybe Earth will be the final battle, or maybe the opening battle, but I can't see any scenario where the majority of the game won't be in the larger universe.

Well duh.

I don't know about anybody else but my reaction is based on the "humans are special" thing solely and I never assumed they were gonna do an earth only game.

There a bunch of unfortunate implications about this trailer.

Either that 1) earth was attacked first for no reason(least likely) or 2) nobody actually thought of gathering a force to fight the Reapers until they just got to earth.
 
Lo-Volt said:
I think that meant the modular, swappable pieces of armor (chestplate, gauntlets, et cetera) seen in ME2 as opposed to the full suits of armor seen in ME1. At this point, I'd be glad if they give the women anything to wear besides leather when bullets start flying.

See, in ME1, if you were an Adept, you actually looked like one. In ME2, you were decked out space marine regardless of what class you were playing.
 
Solo said:
I for one cannot wait to see how utterly pointless ME2 was in the grand scheme of things. I'm sure we'll know within the first few hours of ME3 when only 2-3 choices actually carry over and we're off recruiting a new squad.

Are you kidding? I'm going to need a spam filter for all the emails.
 
Fimbulvetr said:
Either that 1) earth was attacked first for no reason(least likely) or 2) nobody actually thought of gathering a force to fight the Reapers until they just got to earth.

Reapers attacking Earth first is the most likely, as it plays off the 'humanity is special' card. Reapers think humans are the ultimate threat, as they did in ME2, and attack Earth first to strike at Shepard and what they consider to be the superior species.
 
Humans are the center of the universe cause humans buy the most PS360 games.

That is the only that really matters to Bioware.

"The fight is coming to Earth!"

Watch the games media use that phrase a billion times before holiday 2011
 
Skilotonn said:
Fucking NeoGAF, way to be Debbie Downers. All this from the first fucking teaser?

Thank goodness I watched this on TV away from the laptop. I was so happy that it didn't turn out to be some spin-off BS with the teaser shot of the Brit some week(s) back - when I saw Big Ben, Reapers I said alright, but then when I saw Sheperd, then the ME3 logo I was so damn hyped.

Earth was on the plate from the beginning of Mass Effect - they purposely drop breadcrumbs to it, and you all get pissed when you get what they've been hinting at for years?

The game has been a trilogy from the start, with your Sheperd as the main, and you're disappointed when it happens for the finale?

I thought there were actual Mass Effect fans on here, looks like I was sorely mistaken.

I'd bet that knowing how BioWare cuts their teasers/trailers, Earth is probably right in the very beginning of the game, and you all were like this for nothing, as usual.

A lot of people voiced concerns when the initial ME2 trailers came out....and many of those people felt that their concerns were warranted after playing the game.

Obviously nobody knows how this is going to turn out, earth could be the first 5 minutes of the game before it gets blown up for all we know. They release the teasers for a reason though, they are the best indicator of story/tone that we have to go off for the time being, I'm not really sure what you want. Some are going to like what they see, others are going to think it looks dumb.

This CG trailer means a lot to me because honestly, the CG trailers have actually been pretty indicative of the overall tone of the games thus far. Way back for ME1, they had the "distress signal" trailer, no action was shown, the trailer simply highlighted the choice aspect of the game. It was very subtle, and I honestly felt like it represented the game very well. For ME2, they had that video with Thane and Grunt, it was all actiony and "hardcore". Once again, I think it was pretty representative of the final product.

The actual gameplay trailers have went the same way mind you. The first ME1 trailer at E3 way back when was fucking epic. The second game, the one with that nine inch nails song, was decidedly less so. Wonder where they will go with ME3.

Part of this can certainly be explained as a difference between Microsoft's and EA's marketing, but I can't help but feel uneasy about this "HUMANITY : FUCK YEAH" angle.
 
It's kinda dumb that people are obsessing over the death statistics the narrator mentions in the teaser. Only 7 million in a week? Jesus Christ people, 7 million people dying in a week is a fucking holocaust! Stalin totally hit the nail on the head with you guys when he said "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." Even so, it's probably just some BS number a writer pulled out of his ass when writing the script copy.

Earth, despite how small it relatively is to other celestrial bodies, is still a huge place. The resources and energy required to siege an entire planet is something that would tax even the Reapers.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
I hope ME3 ends (or begins) with Shepard destroying all the Reapers on Earth by shooting a planet-destroying gun at it.

Then the golden age of batarian culture can begin.

The planet killing gun uses batarians for ammo.

ColonelColon said:
Are you kidding? I'm going to need a spam filter for all the emails.

Starting a new game with all the the DLC is turrble.
 
Anyway you look at it, Earth and Humanity is going to be the main focus of the game.

Even if we spend little to no time on the planet, this fact will probably color the entire game.
 
DennisK4 said:
Humans are the center of the universe cause humans buy the most PS360 games.

That is the only that really matters to Bioware.

"The fight is coming to Earth!"

Watch the games media use that phrase a billion times before holiday 2011

Does Killzone 3 take place on Earth as well? :lol

And really, that explains why they got rid of the Origins for Dragon Age 2!
 
alerus said:
I think it would be interesting ending if the Reapers are defeated at Earth, but at the cost of Earth. Any future games would have an interesting atmosphere that humans are basically going extinct (since the vast majority of human population is still on Earth).

Of course then we'll find that Earth being destroyed, perhaps becoming radioactive, ends up being good because it forces humans exploration and expansion :p

That's what I want. Even if Earth isn't destroyed, I hope they fuck humanity over so much that they are removed from the council as they can't meet their obligations.

After that, Bioware can start the cycle over by making humans even more special and still fighting their corner and expanding for all to admire. :/
 
Fimbulvetr said:
Well duh.

I don't know about anybody else but my reaction is based on the "humans are special" thing solely and I never assumed they were gonna do an earth only game.

There a bunch of unfortunate implications about this trailer.

Either that 1) earth was attacked first for no reason(least likely) or 2) nobody actually thought of gathering a force to fight the Reapers until they just got to earth.


Yes and Yes.

Especially the second one. It's like the rest of the galactic civilization is full of morons incapable of organizing anything at all after Shepard showed them that the danger of the reapers is close (In several times if I may add, Saren, Sovereign, The Geth, The Collectors)

Now, it could be that the whole galaxy is being attacked at the same time so there is no force on earth as it's impossible to save all the planets, and that is why Sheppard just walks away from the window at the trailer end.

Still, the human are awesome thing is soo much bullshit >:(
 
Solo said:
I for one cannot wait to see how utterly pointless ME2 was in the grand scheme of things. I'm sure we'll know within the first few hours of ME3 when only 2-3 choices actually carry over and we're off recruiting a new squad.
I doubt something like this will be the case. ME2 carried over tons of stuff from ME1 (and not just in e-mail format, either) and had plenty of choices with obvious future hooks for ME3.
 
So wait, all the crazy shit that Sheppard has done for so many species and none of them still give a shit? Can't wait to see the dumb shit you have to do again so Sheppard can prove himself to each and every race.
 
Hasphat'sAnts said:
See, in ME1, if you were an Adept, you actually looked like one. In ME2, you were decked out space marine regardless of what class you were playing.

I do remember the difference between light, medium and heavy armor, and I somewhat miss some of those armor families. Some of them looked rather nice, actually!
 
Chairman Yang said:
I doubt something like this will be the case. ME2 carried over tons of stuff from ME1 (and not just in e-mail format, either) and had plenty of choices with obvious future hooks for ME3.

Sure, it carried over stuff... and then for the most part paid it lip service at best. Take the Rachni Queen for example. Big moment from the first game. I let her live and all I get in ME2 is a visit on Ilium from some random Asari?
 
witness said:
So wait, all the crazy shit that Sheppard has done for so many species and none of them still give a shit? Can't wait to see the dumb shit you have to do again so Sheppard can prove himself to each and every race.

Move cursor to bottom left. Spacebar. Spacebar. Spacebar.

And you're done.


Solo said:
Sure, it carried over stuff... and then for the most part paid it lip service at best. Take the Rachni Queen for example. Big moment from the first game. I let her live and all I get in ME2 is a visit on Ilium from some random Asari?

I think the choices will be much better integrated this time around since they didn't know what they were doing when doing ME2. Not that there were many profound choices you had to make in ME2 anyhow.
 
Jerk 2.0 said:
Anyway you look at it, Earth and Humanity is going to be the main focus of the game.

Humanity has always been a big focus to all the games. One of the major themes of Mass Effect was Shepard proving to the rest of the galaxy that humanity is super awesome and special and that they should be given a seat on the Council.
 
that narrator is hoping for the wrong person to come and save Earth... fuck Shepard we all know Blasto is the only one that can stop the Reapers
 
I hope ME3 ends with some other super special race that is super adaptable with amazing courage and innovation starts spreading everywhere with everyone bowing down to worship them and suddenly humanity knows how it fucking feels
 
EmCeeGramr said:
I hope ME3 ends with some other super special race that is super adaptable with amazing courage and innovation starts spreading everywhere with everyone bowing down to worship them and suddenly humanity knows how it fucking feels

Vorcha.
 
Wow, I'm so glad I read this thread. Mass Effect is ovar! No need to wait and see how it's going to be because it's ruined forevar!

It's a 60 second teaser. Have I passed out and woken up at RPG Codex?
 
Solo said:
Sure, it carried over stuff... and then for the most part paid it lip service at best. Take the Rachni Queen for example. Big moment from the first game. I let her live and all I get in ME2 is a visit on Ilium from some random Asari?
And you get strong hints that the rachni will help in the final fight.

I'm not sure what else can be feasibly done other than lip service (and generally pretty interesting lip service at that). It wouldn't make sense to make a bunch of detailed quests that are only accessible with certain choices in ME1.
 
Mass Effect 3 will end with Sheppard sacrificing earth and detonating the sun (something something dark matter) to destroy all of the Reapers.

Sheppard then goes about destroying every other system that betrayed him.

shit gets done
 
EatChildren said:
Humanity has always been a big focus to all the games. One of the major themes of Mass Effect was Shepard proving to the rest of the galaxy that humanity is super awesome and special and that they should be given a seat on the Council.

First the Council.

Then the Galaxy.

Then the Universe.

Just according to plan.
 
EmCeeGramr said:
I hope ME3 ends with some other super special race that is super adaptable with amazing courage and innovation starts spreading everywhere with everyone bowing down to worship them and suddenly humanity knows how it fucking feels
The facts seem to support the krogans actually being the best race. If it weren't for the genophage they'd dominate the universe.
 
EatChildren said:
Humanity has always been a big focus to all the games. One of the major themes of Mass Effect was Shepard proving to the rest of the galaxy that humanity is super awesome and special and that they should be given a seat on the Council.

Not a main focus the main focus.
 
I am a bit concerned about the story revolving around earth.... hopefully its just the last hour of the game and non involved before. The best thing about mass effect is exploring the galaxy/worlds. If the story occurs on earth it will feel like many other shooters that take place on earth.
 
jagowar said:
I am a bit concerned about the story revolving around earth.... hopefully its just the last hour of the game and non involved before. The best thing about mass effect is exploring the galaxy/worlds. If the story occurs on earth it will feel like many other shooters that take place on earth.

don't worry, just be Renegade and let Earth blow up. DONE.
 
Meh, I kinda like the idea of Earth being featured. I always kinda wondered about it during the other two games, but we'll see where it goes. I'll be happy as long as it's fun to play.
 
I don't understand this whole "fuck yeah humanity" thing going around. Surely what is conveyed by the teaser is that "humanity is fucked and we need the rest of the galaxy to bail us out!"
 
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