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Mass Effect 3 Debut Trailer - Holiday 2011 - 360/PS3/PC

Trailer revealed nothing. It's basically like those CGI videos they did for ME 2. I can see those loyalty missions coming :lol . You want our race to help you and die in massive numbers to save you puny humans? Well we'll do that if you this fetch quest. ME 3
 
Chairman Yang said:
The facts seem to support the krogans actually being the best race. If it weren't for the genophage they'd dominate the universe.
I always got the sense that the krogans were a humanity analog that was unlucky enough to have a nuclear holocaust and but lucky enough to survive it and get uplifted.

If humanity had been in the same situation (and the first part of that is incredibly plausible looking at our history), it would have been like if Fallout raiders and Super Mutants got given advanced guns and spaceships. Somebody built those huge metropolitan cities on Tuchanka.
 
Jerk 2.0 said:
Not a main focus the main focus.


The main focus has been saving the galaxy from the reapers, at least on the first game before they changed it to saving humanity because we are so special that we couldn't even use biotics :lol

Edit:

The facts seem to support the krogans actually being the best race. If it weren't for the genophage they'd dominate the universe.

They were artificially evolutioned, so I am pretty sure they wouldn't be able to even get out of their planet without any help.
 
LCfiner said:
and you do this by scanning for sympathizers from orbit!

Nah people complained about the whole mining/probing so they probably removed that from the game. Bioware's way is to cut what went wrong instead of improving it.
 
Solo said:
Sure, it carried over stuff... and then for the most part paid it lip service at best. Take the Rachni Queen for example. Big moment from the first game. I let her live and all I get in ME2 is a visit on Ilium from some random Asari?

It all comes down to asset creation. Bioware is either going to build the stuff and spend more money or they are going to try to cut corners like they have been. The Rachni thing for instance....it would be awesome if we were able to visit the new Rachni nest/planet in ME2 if we saved them, but this is content that would essentially only be used by half of the people (At least those who don't have multiple playthroughs). What Bioware promised would have been a design nightmare.

This is the same thing with the characters btw. In ME2, everyone can die, so I don't really expect for these characters to have a huge impact on the next game, at least not an impact that another generic character can't fill. If they want to bring back 5 of your squad members from the first 2 games, than this means that they also have to account for the people who no longer have these squad members, and they would need to build 5 replacements. It's not difficult to make the little cameo's, but I don't see any easy way around, say, trying to bring back both Ashley and Wrex in ME3, considering that both characters can already have died for some players.

I wish that the game was very situational and consequential, but I understand why this concept hasn't panned out like we would have hoped for. It's hard to justify designing the game to have all of these multiple branching paths with different dialogues and different locations when you consider that for every choice, you would have to build two or more completely different outcomes every single time. Doesn't seem that practical.
 
Damn they make the earth get attacked so Shepard can go to other far away planets and kill more in the name of heroics.

Tired of these violent games.

I'll stick with Uncharted 3 for 2011. Its also free of Alien(borderline beastiality) sex
 
itxaka said:
The main focus has been saving the galaxy from the reapers, at least on the first game before they changed it to saving humanity because we are so special that we couldn't even use biotics :lol
The reapers won't stop at Earth. This is just a "fuck you" to Shepard.
 
ExtraKr1spy said:
Tired of these violent games.

I'll stick with Uncharted 3 for 2011. Its also free of Alien(borderline beastiality) sex

Yes because Nathan Drake is such a moralist.

Did I just get trolled?
 
ExtraKr1spy said:
Damn they make the earth get attacked so Shepard can go to other far away planets and kill more in the name of heroics.

Tired of these violent games.

I'll stick with Uncharted 3 for 2011. Its also free of Alien(borderline beastiality) sex

Parody post?
 
ExtraKr1spy said:
Damn they make the earth get attacked so Shepard can go to other far away planets and kill more in the name of heroics.

Tired of these violent games.

I'll stick with Uncharted 3 for 2011. Its also free of Alien(borderline beastiality) sex

I know, Nathan Drake wouldn't hurt a fly.
 
ExtraKr1spy said:
Tired of these violent games.

I'll stick with Uncharted 3 for 2011. Its also free of Alien(borderline beastiality) sex
I agree. At least Nathan Drake only kills brown people.
 
Kitschkraft said:
This is the same thing with the characters btw. In ME2, everyone can die, so I don't really expect for these characters to have a huge impact on the next game, at least not an impact that another generic character can't fill. If they want to bring back 5 of your squad members from the first 2 games, than this means that they also have to account for the people who no longer have these squad members, and they would need to build 5 replacements. It's not difficult to make the little cameo's, but I don't see any easy way around, say, trying to bring back both Ashley and Wrex in ME3, considering that both characters can already have died for some players.

You seem to forget that Bioware is lazy. They will probably blackmail Miss big boobs into reviving the dead members like they did for Sheppard. If something can change depending on your choices you can bet a palette swap version of it will show up.
 
Chairman Yang said:
The facts seem to support the krogans actually being the best race. If it weren't for the genophage they'd dominate the universe.

Seems like a lot of the races can make arguments for being superior in some way.

Krogans are, well, Krogans. Could take over the galaxy if their birth rates weren't sabotaged. Good with Biotics. I believe that they live a long time although I'm not certain.

Asari seem to be one of the most intelligent, organized races. Can breed with anyone. Discovered the citadel first I believe. Live for 1000 years. Have a natural affinity towards biotics. Have mind reading powers. Probably the best species, if not for Shepard wrecking shit, the reapers probably would have had a T-900 Asari model...:lol

Salarians are the smartest, although hindered by a short life span.

Turians seem similar to the Asari and humans, not really sure what, if anything, holds them back.

Even the Quarians have their advantages. Were probably on their way to being an important race before they delved too far with the AI's and were punished for it. Even so, they are clearly being touted in this universe as some of the best technical wizards. Without the immune system failure, they'd be right up their with anyone.

Humans seem to be "curious" and "daring", and they have Shepard.
 
Why..? Why ruin the sci-fi game of forever by making it realistic like this? I don't want another brown shooter in gray environments. Fuck.
 
itxaka said:
The main focus has been saving the galaxy from the reapers, at least on the first game before they changed it to saving humanity1 because we are so special that we couldn't even use biotics 2:lol

Edit:



They were artificially evolutioned, so I am pretty sure they wouldn't be able to even get out of their planet without any help.3

0/3 par for the thread

Dead crew members will be revived by Legion.
Legion will also be an ME3 romance option.
finallllly
 
If the Reapers fascination with humans was simply due to the fact that Shepard was able to spoil Sovereign's plan to activate the Citadel then it wouldn't be such a controversial plot point. It really only becomes awkward when they introduced the whole unique genetic diversity thing.

Ultimately, the Protheans where the actual saviors of the galaxy. My biggest issue with the direction the story was how they handled the ultimate fate of the Protheans.

In the end, I still love the games and the universe and I'm fully expecting to love the finale.
 
Articate said:
Why..? Why ruin the sci-fi game of forever by making it realistic like this? I don't want another brown shooter in gray environments. Fuck.



they sell.

same reason every game was a side scroller after mario, or fighting game after street fighter 2, or blood after mortal kombat, or had stealth missions after metal gear , or lens flares after... i dont know what started lens flares. Its Just how things are, except "now" its really really bad now because 1 failed "blockbuster" game means a studio is sunk, so gotta go with what sells to the mainstream brosefs, or some 10 dollar glorified flash game on xbla/psn.
 
Felix Lighter said:
Ultimately, the Protheans where the actual saviors of the galaxy. My biggest issue with the direction the story was how they handled the ultimate fate of the Protheans.

But the collector's are not exactly Protheans.
 
Screw this. Where is the real sequel to mass effect 1. The one where humanity gets a seat on the council and has to deal with consequences of getting involved in politics on the galactic scale. The one where Humans and Salarians can suddenly stop a Turian/Asari Council vote dead in its tracks, changing council politics forever. The one where suddenly the Alliance Fleet has to do more than sit around protecting earth colonies but working with Turians and Asari protecting the whole galaxy. The one where humanity has to find its own little spot in the galaxy and not just stepping on everyone's head to stand on their shoulders because they are so god damn special.
 
Awesome. However there are a few things I hope Bioware addresses and does and doesn't so.

-Earth shouldn't be under attack when we start. No way would Earth hold out against the reapers for the duration of the ME3 quest.
-The Reapers better be attacking other planets in the galaxy. If they are just attacking Earth then that's stupid. There are enough Reapers between the galaxies to cover Earth and they could easily indoctrinate most of the planet.
-Please no auto destruct signal thing that instantly kills every reaper in the universe. I want them to need to be fought off, or destroyed or whatever. I'm fine if they manage to make a weapon that can easily kill them (they kinda do,
the Normandy's rail gun from ME1 killed Sovereign
)
-I wouldn't mind Earth being attacked at the start if it gets destroyed/taken over/all humans there killed or turned to husks.
-I hope that in the amount of time from ME2 to ME3 things that have happened and changed will be explained nicely. ME2 got away with it because
Shep died not long after ME1 so we were learning about the changes along with Shep
-Garrus and Tali back as squadmates wwith Tali (and Garrus if you are femshep) romanceable again and we get to see Tali's face
 
ZombieSupaStar said:
they sell.

same reason every game was a side scroller after mario, or fighting game after street fighter 2, or had stealth missions after metal gear, or blood after mortal kombat, or lens flares after... i dont know what started lens flares. Its Just how things are, except "now" its really really bad now because 1 failed "blockbuster" game means a studio is sunk, so gotta go with what sells to the mainstream brosefs, or some 10 dollar glorified flash game on xbla/psn.

Yup. I had a university course about video-games and how they are compared to other types of media. What's sad is that the entire "achademic" field of "ludologists" (Aarseth [my lecturer], Frasca, Jenkins, Eskelinen, Ryan and what have you) base their "interpertations" of video-games on cross-media productions, claiming narrative doesn't transfer to games based on EA's LoTR. The whole thing became laughable when my lecturer actually stated WHY all games are samey, went on to disregard it in his article, and concluded stories can't be transfered to video games. He's part of the reason why we're playing the same crap ass games without trying to make progress. And now it got Mass Effect. The only mainstream game to keep my dreams living.

I wonder how they'll play on sex THIS time.
 
Zomba13 said:
Awesome. However there are a few things I hope Bioware addresses and does and doesn't so.

-Earth shouldn't be under attack when we start. No way would Earth hold out against the reapers for the duration of the ME3 quest.
-The Reapers better be attacking other planets in the galaxy. If they are just attacking Earth then that's stupid. There are enough Reapers between the galaxies to cover Earth and they could easily indoctrinate most of the planet.
-Please no auto destruct signal thing that instantly kills every reaper in the universe. I want them to need to be fought off, or destroyed or whatever. I'm fine if they manage to make a weapon that can easily kill them (they kinda do,
the Normandy's rail gun from ME1 killed Sovereign
)
-I wouldn't mind Earth being attacked at the start if it gets destroyed/taken over/all humans there killed or turned to husks.
-I hope that in the amount of time from ME2 to ME3 things that have happened and changed will be explained nicely. ME2 got away with it because
Shep died not long after ME1 so we were learning about the changes along with Shep
-Garrus and Tali back as squadmates wwith Tali (and Garrus if you are femshep) romanceable again and we get to see Tali's face

I am Jerk 2.0 and this is my favorite post in the thread.
 
Lostconfused said:
Screw this. Where is the real sequel to mass effect 1. The one where humanity gets a seat on the council and has to deal with consequences of getting involved in politics on the galactic scale. The one where Humans and Salarians can suddenly stop a Turian/Asari Council vote dead in its tracks, changing council politics forever. The one where suddenly the Alliance Fleet has to do more than sit around protecting earth colonies but working with Turians and Asari protecting the whole galaxy. The one where humanity has to find its own little spot in the galaxy and not just stepping on everyone's head to stand on their shoulders because they are so god damn special.


Because they can sell 3x more with the current "look" of the game.

*million dollar man laugh*
 
Lostconfused said:
Screw this. Where is the real sequel to mass effect 1. The one where humanity gets a seat on the council and has to deal with consequences of getting involved in politics on the galactic scale. The one where Humans and Salarians can suddenly stop a Turian/Asari Council vote dead in its tracks, changing council politics forever. The one where suddenly the Alliance Fleet has to do more than sit around protecting earth colonies but working with Turians and Asari protecting the whole galaxy. The one where humanity has to find its own little spot in the galaxy and not just stepping on everyone's head to stand on their shoulders because they are so god damn special.

No, don't you see. America just game to the Citadel. It's NEEDED to step on some heads to get some things right.
 
So, for someone who has not played either Mass Effect, is this trailer spoilerish?
Getting Mass Effect in January and I'm trying to avoid all spoilers if possible.
Thanks.
 
pharmboy044 said:
So, for someone who has not played either Mass Effect, is this trailer spoilerish?
Getting Mass Effect in January and I'm trying to avoid all spoilers if possible.
Thanks.

Yes. Major spoilers.
 
Zomba13 said:
-Earth shouldn't be under attack when we start. No way would Earth hold out against the reapers for the duration of the ME3 quest.
-The Reapers better be attacking other planets in the galaxy. If they are just attacking Earth then that's stupid. There are enough Reapers between the galaxies to cover Earth and they could easily indoctrinate most of the planet.

It's hard to really know what the Reapers are capable of if they don't completely disrupt all mass relay travel and communications before they begin there attack. The obviously aren't indestructible and they feel the need to cripple the advanced species before they attack and they feel the need to stay completely hidden. They are definitely powerful but they rely on surprise and confusion.
 
pharmboy044 said:
So, for someone who has not played either Mass Effect, is this trailer spoilerish?
Getting Mass Effect in January and I'm trying to avoid all spoilers if possible.
Thanks.

All things considered, it's probably best to avoid it. You get a clear look at the series main villains in this trailer. Best to just go in cold.

After you play ME1 though, it's safe to watch this.
 
Lostconfused said:
Screw this. Where is the real sequel to mass effect 1. The one where humanity gets a seat on the council and has to deal with consequences of getting involved in politics on the galactic scale. The one where Humans and Salarians can suddenly stop a Turian/Asari Council vote dead in its tracks, changing council politics forever. The one where suddenly the Alliance Fleet has to do more than sit around protecting earth colonies but working with Turians and Asari protecting the whole galaxy. The one where humanity has to find its own little spot in the galaxy and not just stepping on everyone's head to stand on their shoulders because they are so god damn special.


the way the market is right now, this type of game - with more diplomatic overtones, would be developed for the DS or the iPhone.

and I’d buy the shit out of it
 
MarshMellow96 said:
Looks exciting but it's probably going to be more like ME2.. Good for some, bad for others?

Good for what? The entire game was a fuckin' recruit mission. I really don't mind getting more characters throughout a game, but when someone says "OK, we can go and attack them RIGHT NOW. But, wait, you need some people. Go." it feels like sitting on a tiny scooter going 10 mph when you can see where you're going for 50 hours before you get there. Fun.
 
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