prag16
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It's funny because it's a play on words. It has absolutely nothing to do with what happened in Orlando, obviously.
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It's funny because it's a play on words. It has absolutely nothing to do with what happened in Orlando, obviously.
I don't know how else to delicately point out that it doesn't have to be gay.
Fata1moose
Banned
His, "Because it's a big stupid jelly fish!" delivery is also much better and that's all that matters really.
Swimmer9800
Member
Unless it's rushed to market, the chances of it coming early 2017 are slim to none.
prag16
Banned
You don't know that. We literally have no concrete proof to back this (apparently widespread) sentiment.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Ivory Samoan
Member
This is how my Shepard's go as well: Sheploo is always at least slightly renegade, and Femshep is always a paragon of goodness: fighting the valant fight.
"Modest changes" doesn't really translate into cutting a few features though.
Also, in the same interview:
Lol poor devs, so much pressure & negativity must have been hard for them.
This makes me sad.
Will be interesting to compare and contrast statistics of female vs male playable options. Having main character as female default means people will have to actively change character to default male.
In Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3, despite the FemShep love and hype, only 18% ever played as her in the campaign and a whopping 82 percent always picked ManShep.
In Mass Effect 2 and Mass Effect 3, despite the FemShep love and hype, only 18% ever played as her in the campaign and a whopping 82 percent always picked ManShep.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
Dick Ryder for a male doesn't mean gay? How many straight guys do you know that ride dicks?
It's not funny and casual homophobia is the reason LGBTQ+ people seek out safe spaces where they then get shot and killed.
Yeah, everyone came out of that with scars, devs and fans. Those were dark, ugly, soul-reaving times.
exmachina64
Banned
This may be hard for you to grasp, but it takes a lot of hard work to even make a bad game and it's common for developers to lose objectivity on the end result of their work.
The studio put a lot of effort into the game and took the reactions personally, even without the personal attacks in which some people on the internet engaged.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
They deserved all the crap they got for that ending.
Dude, it's such a light-hearted joke, I really doubt the poster intended to disparage any gay person when he/she posted that. Lighten up a little. I would like to assume that gay people are not as brittle as you think they are.
Nova in my Mass Effect?
SimplyOlivia
Banned
Edit - nvm
Still was too much of an overreaction for what is basically just a video game ending. Poorly done sure, but still. Some of their better efforts in the game were completely ignored because people were too focused on raging at the ending.
Still, part of me think that, thanks to all that, we got the excellent Citadel DLC, with all the love & attention that's in it.
BrassDragon
Member
It's pretty obvious the conclusion of the Mass Effect trilogy meant something more than just any other videogame ending - maybe not to media commentators and casual players but the level of investment longterm fans had in the climax was markedly different from other titles. There really hasn't been anything comparable before or after.
I'll grant that the ending backlash did overshadow discussion of the games stronger elements (multiplayer, tine-tuned combat mechanics, Tuchanka, some of the quieter character moments) but even apart from the final act, there are some questionable design decisions (railroaded opening, drive-by questgivers, war readiness with real-time decay, off-screen Citadel massacre, everything Kai Leng, Cerberus' villainy of infinite armies etc.)
But you're right, Citadel DLC was definitely an acknowledgement of fan investment and a fun thing in its own right.
This is an insulting assumption to all guys actually named Dick Ryder.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
It's not "just" a video game ending. For a fan like me that poured hundreds upon hundreds upon hundreds of hours on the trilogy and bought all the DLCs and invested so many emotionally in the games, that ending felt like my head got hit by an anvil the size of a schoolbus. I didn't just feel disappointed, I felt betrayed.
What's insulting about assuming that someone is gay? Or that they ride dicks, for that matter
Well dick is just short for Richard sooo
I'm a big fan who replayed the trilogy like 10 times and I didn't overreact as much as some people.
Maybe it's because I started playing ME1 & ME2 in 2011 rather than when they were released, so I didn't have to wait years to see the trilogy ends, but who knows. It sure didn't "destroyed" the whole trilogy for me, preventing me to enjoy the games as I did before, didn't feel like vomiting when the ending happened, didn't want the devs to lose their job, or whatever hyperbole I saw back in the day.
Anyway... if the devs all learned from this to make a better game in ME:A, well... I guess there is nothing to worry about this happening again.
Imagine all the jokes they must have gotten lobbed at them, and now you make an assumption on someone based purely on their name? Disgraceful!
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
Yeah I'm sure he was referencing all the people named Dick Ryder and how it should be the only choice for a male character on their behalf.
Why not just say Richard Ryder then?
Ctrl + F "dick" 0 results on that page.
There are plenty of other names he could have picked, but no Dick was the only one he said because of the connotation. Trying to defend him by spinning it any which way but, means you are part of the problem.
Well, it's silly to make an assumption like that about someone based solely on their name, I agree, but it's not insulting. In fact, you saying it's insulting is kind of homophobic because it implies that being gay or being seen as gay (or as a bottom) is a negative thing when, in fact, assuming that someone is gay based on their name would be no different than assuming that someone has brown hair based on their name or assuming that their favourite colour is blue or that they enjoy rollercoasters. Silly and non-sensical, sure, but insulting? No, not at all.
paragonpro
Banned
I dont understand this obsession with the gender of mass effects marketed character? Its an rpg for christ sake. You can select sex, or race. No one ever said you have to play as male or fem shep.
I mean, if they use a female protagonist in their marketing material, that does make a bit of a statement as far as marketability of female protagonists in AAA video games goes so I can see why it's important to some people.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
It is insulting BECAUSE of the negative connotations. He was making a joke about Dick Riding for the male character, what other way is it meant to be taken?
How is a statement of fact that gay people have anal intercourse funny other than being negative?
It's nice to see yourself represented
Marketing and default choices influence who players will choose to play as
It's good for non-dominant narratives/experiences to be disseminated
Female characters, especially protagonists, are usually marginalized and made invisible in the games industry and entertainment in general
Huh? What's insulting about riding a dick? I've ridden plenty.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
Thats what I'm trying to say. As a statement of fact it's not funny. He only meant it in the negative way.
TheLegendOfMart
Banned
Nice to see you take it so serious, how many people do you know who died in Orlando?
I'm sorry, I don't see it. I find it funny because it's a sexual innuendo and that has got nothing to do with homophobia or bottom shaming (if that's how I'd read it, I certainly wouldn't be laughing at it). Of course, I don't know how the person who posted it meant it but I definitely don't think that the only possible interpretation of the joke is to say it's homophobic.
Zero. I just find it fucking hilarious how you put a negative spin on a sexual innuendo like that.
My first thought. Damn shermhead.
Dick has been used in England as a short term for Richard since the 12th century.
Man, I can understand the way you feel but for ME3 was the biggest gut-punch I've ever experienced in a game. I bought and played ME1 on Day 1. I've played a LOT of games in my time and I've never come close to experiencing that distaste for anything.
The ending of 3 was a wet fart for a few reasons: catalyst kid (???), synthesis/control options (???), no epilogue.
Say what you will about Dragon Age but Origins and Inquisition offer a full rundown of what happens to your characters and how they develop after the game as a result of your choices including what happens to the world. A simple text slideshow like Origins/Inquisition wouls have led to far less if any vitriol from fans.
The overreaction was legit hilarious though.
Say what you will about Dragon Age but Origins and Inquisition offer a full rundown of what happens to your characters and how they develop after the game as a result of your choices including what happens to the world. A simple text slideshow like Origins/Inquisition wouls have led to far less if any vitriol from fans.
The overreaction was legit hilarious though.
Shirkelton
Neo Member
They got death threats.
Metroidvania
People called Romanes they go the house?
I'm pretty sure (or at least hope) that they were including that -Obviously they didn't deserve threats of any kind.
That doesn't mean they're exempt from the underlying communication/criticism about the ending's various issues (or purportedly just Casey and Mac, if that one post by a certain someone is to be believed).
dangeraaron10
Unconfirmed Member
I'm still bitter at no playable Turians or Krogan.
But it is what it is. I thought it would be the best time to let you pick species now that we moved on from Shepard, but alas.
But it is what it is. I thought it would be the best time to let you pick species now that we moved on from Shepard, but alas.
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