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[Man Called Aerodynamics]

Great to hear that eyes, facial animations, and lip sync will be improved, but it leaves me wondering, what kind of improvements could they have accomplished in the last two weeks that couldn't get done over the previous 5 years?

 

[bobeth]

Great to hear that eyes, facial animations, and lip sync will be improved, but it leaves me wondering, what kind of improvements could they have accomplished in the last two weeks that couldn't get done over the previous 5 years?

The game must have gone gold a couple months ago. Any improvement is better than nothing, plus they just said there will be more patches to come.

 

[Ambient80]

In case it hasn't been posted:



Source: https://twitter.com/tibermoon/status/849306765938315264

This was in response to someone asking if they fixed squad banter being interrupted by pretty much everything.

Great news, makes me wonder what other changes the patch includes that aren't listed.

Oh thank god. "Environment is hazardous, Pathfinder." "No hazard detected Pathfinder." "Environment is hazardous...." That shit got old quick, especially when it interrupted things my squad was saying. I also hope they fixed the NPC's constantly talking over one another issue. Sometimes I couldn't even hear the NPC I was speaking to because like 10 of them around the area were all blabbing about something else.

 

[Gator86]

I'm on board with everything I've heard from them. And by on board I mean am planning to rent it in June once it's patched up and there's nothing else out.

 

[Iksenpets]

This stuff was probably in the pipeline for completion anyway and got the "eh.. we can always patch it in later..." excuse from ea.

The bug fixes, sure, but stuff like getting actors into the studio to record new dialogue for new romance plots is definitely not something that was planned for. That's way more work than typical patches, and pretty much a direct response to backlash.

 

[Van Bur3n]

I might put the game on hold until they get more fixes in.

 

[DOWN]

The eyes thing is weird. Like why were they below standards a couple of weeks ago at all?

 

[Garrett Hawke]

The eyes thing is weird. Like why were they below standards a couple of weeks ago at all?

Maybe they had more important shit to fix in time for launch?

 

[bryanee]

Good to hear they will improve it so I'll be buying it in about four months I guess.

 

[m_dorian]

Good news about bug fixes.
It just proves that ME:A was launched prematurely.

However i doubt they will fix the bad writing sources report ME:A is plagued with. I guess i will see that myself after a couple of months.

 

[bonesmccoy]

However i doubt they will fix the bad writing sources report ME:A is plagued with. I guess i will see that myself after a couple of months.

Have you played a ME game before? The writing is no different - better or worse - on the whole than what has come before.

 

[Tovarisc]

Good news about bug fixes.
It just proves that ME:A was launched prematurely.

However i doubt they will fix the bad writing sources report ME:A is plagued with. I guess i will see that myself after a couple of months.

Writing meets your normal BW standards. Not especially better or worse than any other of their offerings when looking whole package.

 

[ChuChuRocket]

Also give us a free season pass , like ubi for ure damn mistake Shipping that Game in this status. Thanks in Advance

Spoiler

Early Adopters already paid

 

[HowZatOZ]

I mean it is nice that the devs have owned up to the mistakes of the game and are willing to fix it, but won't it be too late by the time "everything" is fixed? Those who bought the game on launch and have issues aren't going to come back later. Players have been burnt on what they initially got and promises of fixes and "just wait it will get better" won't really keep players around.

Hell, the fact the game won't be at the stage it should have been at launch until June at the earliest is crazy. Why would I buy the game now? I'll just until June when it's dirt cheap and actually at a playable stage.

 

[Coxy100]

Have you played a ME game before? The writing is no different - better or worse - on the whole than what has come before.

mate the writing is much worse.

My face hurts?

 

[Irishonion]

Cool, keeping up to date with this. Want to play but in no rush. Will play after a couple months.

 

[CarbonFire]

Have you played a ME game before? The writing is no different - better or worse - on the whole than what has come before.

Mass Effect has always had SOME janky writing, but it's disingenuous to lump this game in with the trilogy and say they're all on the same level. Andromeda is on another level of bad, with far fewer highs and vastly more lows than the trilogy as a whole.

 

[Deleted member 752119]

Have you played a ME game before? The writing is no different - better or worse - on the whole than what has come before.

Writing meets your normal BW standards. Not especially better or worse than any other of their offerings when looking whole package.

Mostly agree, though I do think the lows in writing are lower here and there are more frequent lows than in ME1-3 or the DA games.

Still, the only people I can see having the game ruined due to the writing for the most part are people who found the writing in those past games merely passable or whatever. Because it is a tad worse so it could be the final straw for those folk.

Otherwise, I think people are confounding writing and plot. The writing (dialogue, character interactions etc.) is only a little worse. However, the overall plot IMO is far less compelling than in past Bioware games and many seem to feel the same. Many just aren't getting as invested in the world, characters etc. as the plot isn't sucking them in the way ME1-3 did.

 

[Heckler456]

mate the writing is much worse.

My face hurts?

You're right, that one example does invalidate the rest of what is probably a 500.000 word script!

 

[Tovarisc]

mate the writing is much worse.

My face hurts?

Overall writing is far from being worse than BW games in general are. Acting like OGT or DA don't have some moronic dialogue is just dishonest.

 

[CarbonFire]

Good news about bug fixes.
It just proves that ME:A was launched prematurely.

You can patch games after the fact.

You can't patch more money into your quarterly financial reports.

EA gonna EA.

 

[Ralemont]

mate the writing is much worse.

My face hurts?

you realize that's one line? and that the same 5 lines keep getting repeated over and over again on this forum in a game with thousands of dialogue lines?

The squad writing is on par for BioWare. The main story is similar. The side quests are kinda boring but better than recent BioWare offerings.

 

[arts&crafts]

Galaxy map change is 'uge!

 

[Nekrono]

All this bitching about dialogue for a few lines especially the "my face is tired" one, seriously the dialogue in ME:A falls in line with dialogue from BioWare games in general. Even the OT.

People most likely are confusing dialogue with the tone of the series, the OT was more serious and had more "serious" dialogue and Andromeda is more chill and casual. Having said that I do wish Ryder wouldn't come off as laid back and casual about his/her responses so often, a bit more seriousness in the character would have helped a lot.

 

[thepenguin55]

So what I'm getting is that this game should've been delayed to at least June. The fact that we can now pinpoint exactly how long this game should've been delayed is crazy. While I appreciate that Bioware isn't abandoning this game like many companies would have and they appear to be putting the work in it's not at all unfair to say that this game should not have launched in such a incredibly messy state. Either way, I guess I'll be pumping the breaks on my playthrough and possibly restart from the beginning TWO MONTHS FROM NOW.

 

[Bruce Springsteen]

After 6-8 months this game will be ready for me

Glad they're patching this up but why the hell did they even release the game at its state? It's going to be $20-30 when it's finally polished

 

[RDreamer]

mate the writing is much worse.

My face hurts?

One line. Out of a script that's larger than ME2 and 3 combined. The line sucks, but after 60 hours with the game that line and that first conversation with Addison as a whole is an insane outlier.

Personally I feel like they cut up that conversation from something else at the last minute, because the line is a direct reference to a previous conversation where someone mentions "I bet you're happy to see some friendly faces" or something like that. Doesn't excuse the end result, but there's seriously nothing else like that in the game.

 

[Knuckle Sandwich]

Thank god they are fixing the galaxy map. Who thought those slow ass zoom ins were a good idea? I actually like scanning planets so I'm a happy boy.

 

[Tomeru]

I'm going to give it a go when they add in more character creation options.

 

[Lucreto]

I was going to wait but I will continue and do a canon playthrough once the dlc is out.

 

[Tovarisc]

I'm going to give it a go when they add in more character creation options.

You really should give MEA a go after they patch this baby up, especially if you were into Original Trilogy. MEA is more ME in so many ways and has that hidden diamond quality to it because of rough edges it has currently. When it comes to dialogue and writing people on GAF love to copypasta hot takes that are "My face is tired", but that is so tiny fraction of an whole that has a lot great character moments and good dialogue.

 

[VibratingDonkey]

Wonder if they'll catch this guy.

He is...an elusive man. There for like a frame, so only if you're not blinking might you be thinking; "Oh man this game."

 

[Jangowuzhere]

Guess I'm glad that I decided to wait?

Game really shouldn't have been released in its current state.

 

[prag16]

Mass Effect has always had SOME janky writing, but it's disingenuous to lump this game in with the trilogy and say they're all on the same level. Andromeda is on another level of bad, with far fewer highs and vastly more lows than the trilogy as a whole.

I don't agree with this. In ME:A, the lows are probably slightly lower (other than Addison and her tired face; that line and that character are definitely outliers), and there are more of them (but then, there is more of EVERYTHING; it's a much bigger game). But the overall 'general' quality is not significantly better or worse than the trilogy on the whole, in my opinion.

 

[TI82]

I dunno about you guys but I love buying unfished buggy trash and then getting to help the developers by doing unpaid QA.

Oh it's not unpaid QA, you just happen to be paying them instead. Make sure to list it on your resume though.

 

[tootie923]

I'm glad they're going to address the underwhelming male/male romance options, but I wish they would of given a bit more detail on exactly what they're planning in that regard. Another romance option? (Preferably a squad mate.) Improved character models? New scenes for existing options? Adjusting the multiple romance trophy/achievement? Etc.

They're going to replace Cora's character model with Gil in the sex scenes - fini!

I don't know, anything is better than what M/M romances were given. I guess I'll put this game on the backburner until it's done. At least the multiplayer is pretty good.

 

[MAX PAYMENT]

Mass Effect has always had SOME janky writing, but it's disingenuous to lump this game in with the trilogy and say they're all on the same level. Andromeda is on another level of bad, with far fewer highs and vastly more lows than the trilogy as a whole.

As a huge mass effect fan, I can promise that the original trilog is not as good as everyone makes it out to be. I love it to death, but they're all full of hank and awkward writing. Nothing about andromeda stands out as being drastically worse than the trilogy.

If anything, it's more of the same and it's disappointing that it isn't that much better.

But in my opinion, it is exactly in the same league as the trilogy.

That being said I haven't completed it yet, but I'm playing it a lot.

 

[X-Frame]

So I just started a NG+ playthrough. Maybe I should delete it and start another one after this patch?

I hear NG+ has a bunch of potential bugs that could mess with quests.

 

[VibratingDonkey]

There's a limit to how much they can fix, the game seems to have some more fundamental flaws, but hey, they're improving things. I'll probably check it out eventually. After all these other games. So maybe next year?

 

[MotionBlue]

"Day one purchase" is slowly becoming 'early access'.

 

[prag16]

Nothing about andromeda stands out as being drastically worse than the trilogy.

Nothing's worse than Foster Addison and her tired face.

Luckily that's a pretty serious outlier.

 

[TitusTroy]

so 2 more months to get the finished product?...would it have been that difficult for EA to just release the game in April or May!...it's not like anyone would really care if they originally announced the release date as May 2nd

 

[valkyre]

Am i naive to expect better performance (framerate) from this patch? Sure they throw the usual "stability and performance improvement" cliche, but literally i am waiting for a framerate fix to buy this game. The irony is that i have a ps4 pro and since i got it i thought i got rid of this fucking framerate thing. Every game i have so far plays smooth as hell and if it doesnt it always gives me the option to play in 1080p mode, so... yeah... Bioware happened i guess...

 

[Nekrono]

As a huge mass effect fan, I can promise that the original trilog is not as good as everyone makes it out to be. I love it to death, but they're all full of hank and awkward writing. Nothing about andromeda stands out as being drastically worse than the trilogy.

If anything, it's more of the same and it's disappointing that it isn't that much better.

But in my opinion, it is exactly in the same league as the trilogy.

That being said I haven't completed it yet, but I'm playing it a lot.

I agree with you. OT is filled with jank and some dialogue that makes you facepalm but since it released so long ago people just remember how awesome Shepard and the crew was and how you were involved in this super heroic and epic journey to save the galaxy.

I'll say it again, it's not the actual dialogue (sure there are questionable lines but also the OT suffers from that) but the tone of each series, the OT was epic and heroic while Andromeda is more laid back and relaxed .

If Andromeda had a real serious tone people wouldn't complain so much about it but then again that was a major complain in the OT since you were in a quest to save the galaxy and avoid complete extermination and yet the game had you running around doing silly quests, dancing, chilling in your apartment, etc. People complained a lot about this and BioWare probably felt forced to lay back a little in this regard.

 

[DarkestHour]

Wonder if they'll catch this guy.

He is...an elusive man. There for like a frame, so only if you're not blinking might you be thinking; "Oh man this game."

Totally ruined your chance to call him "Illusive Man"

 

[prag16]

If Andromeda had a real serious tone people wouldn't complain so much about it but then again that was a major complain in the OT since you were in a quest to save the galaxy and avoid complete extermination and yet the game had you running around doing silly quests, dancing, chilling in your apartment, etc. People complained a lot about this and BioWare probably felt forced to lay back a little in this regard.

Yeah, plenty of people DID complain about the tone and gameplay loop seeming too laid back against the backdrop of galaxy-wide devastation.

I thought this game did a fine job getting that balance right.

 

[Son Of Sparda]

No freebies. Aww. lol

We'll probably get a bunch of stuff.

These upcoming patches will also address performance and stability issues. And we’re looking at adding more cosmetic items to single player for free.

 

[prag16]

We'll probably get a bunch of stuff.

Some people were probably hoping for free story DLC.

I'm not expecting that; I just hope the cost to content ratio isn't as questionable as some of the ME2 and ME3 content. $15-20 for a couple hours of content in some of those cases was... not ideal.

 

[RDreamer]

Yeah, plenty of people DID complain about the tone and gameplay loop seeming too laid back against the backdrop of galaxy-wide devastation.

I thought this game did a fine job getting that balance right.

Yeah I like the balance in this game and the play between the overall goal and what you're doing. It doesn't feel as weird as a lot of open world RPGs where you're doing completely unrelated shit while the world is in trouble or something. The overarching goal of making this universe habitable really helps things. As long as you're not mainlining the "tasks," it doesn't feel like you're ignoring important shit for something else. You're doing your job.

And I like the tone overall. It doesn't feel that different from its inspirations like Star Wars and Star Trek and Battlestar, etc

 

[Harlequin]

I'm glad that they acknowledged the M/M romance issues, though I'll remain sceptical until I know what they're actually going to do about it. Personally, I'm hoping for more Reyes content. More dialogue, a proper sex scene, maybe a few more emails. (A unique face for him would be awesome but I doubt that that's gonna happen... hopefully in MEA2.) We'll see.

Being able to skip the tedious galaxy map animations will be great and the eyes getting fixed is good news, as well. Also really looking forward to a better character creator (though by now, I've sort of gotten used to my compromise Scott).