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[Aaron]

If you are talking about overwatch like in Xcom then it looks like this was a design decision. Not sure I agree with it but haven't spent enough time with the game to know for sure.


'MrMooEar [developer] Nov 11, 2014 @ 1:58pm
I love XCOM! Can you tell?

We talked about it a lot early in development. Does a tactics game need overwatch? We're inspired by a lof of other tactics games like Final Fantasy Tactics and Fire Emblem. These games (and a lot of others!) don't have an Overwatch mechanic. So we decided to leave it on the sidelines when designing the game.

Hopefully that helps! We really don't feel like it's a necessary feature for this kind of game, even though it's super cool and works really well for XCOM. !'

http://steamcommunity.com/app/246110/discussions/0/613941122865394513/

Having already twenty hours into the game, overwatch would have added an extra layer of strategy. You'll find that alchemists are especially hurt by this limitation, but overall being able to set up the field and letting the enemies come to you could have been a viable tactic. Instead, you sometimes need to rush in before they get you, and hope there aren't more enemies lurking in the fog. Or really abuse the hunter's stealth ability.

 

[CecilRousso]

Game Informer - 8/10

 

[Zyae]

So do the Trainees start at the level that their parents were?

 

[p3tran]

I downloaded this mid-day, thought I'd just fire it up for a few minutes
and
I am 150 years in!!

Spoiler

my kingdom only has Hunter - Bow Heroes after 50 years of selective breeding

edit:
well done Double Fine games.

 

[BananasWithGuns]

Just started it up. Holy crap at the amount of Houses. Guess I'll just stick with random lol.

 

[ryseing]

I downloaded this mid-day, thought I'd just fire it up for a few minutes
and
I am 150 years in!!

Spoiler

my kingdom only has Hunter - Bow Heroes after 50 years of selective breeding

edit:
well done Double Fine games.

You can recruit new heroes.

 

[BGMNTS]

XCOM without the cover/defence system. Throw some marriages and babies in there to mix classes and pass on character traits and stats to the next set of characters, and you've got yourself a super cool game!

Also I think in terms of gameplay it could be deeper and indeed a defend and overwatch mechanic should be there, for Hunters and Alchemists mainly.

 

[Joseph Merrick]

this turned out super solid. wow.

could use a bit more depth in the tactical combat, hopefully they'll do an expansion.

Just started it up. Holy crap at the amount of Houses. Guess I'll just stick with random lol.

backers made a lot of those. pretty fun to have that crazy amount and use random yeah. can't even remember which ones I made anyway, lol.

 

[Dynasty8]

So...how does everyone like the game so far?

I haven't had the chance to try it out and I won't be able to for a couple days... but as a fan of FFT/Fire Emblem...this game has caught my curiosity. Anything like those games as far as story and gameplay?

 

[p3tran]

You can recruit new heroes.

yes I know, but unless they are bow/hunters, they ain't getting a hubbie/wife.
best thing can happen to them is either help tech or train heroes.

my hero bloodline hasn't got a casualty in battle since 100 years

 

[rrc1594]

This game just made me make a 8 year old and a 67 year old get married. I feel sick

 

[Doukou]

Really enjoying it, the amount of incest that goes on in my three houses are extreme.

 

[Panda Rin]

seems to be reviewing alright. My only concern is the depth and amount of content.

 

[ryseing]

yes I know, but unless they are bow/hunters, they ain't getting a hubbie/wife.
best thing can happen to them is either help tech or train heroes.

my hero bloodline hasn't got a casualty in battle since 100 years

Oh OK. Didn't think you did that on purpose.

Just posting that because I didn't realize it until halfway through my first playthrough.

 

[David Incorporated Esq.]

Oh it's $16 why not?

 

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[Segaswirl]

I'm on year 130 or so and whenever the AI is completing it's turn it crashes the game. Doesn't seem to matter what I do on my turn before it, I can't stop it from freezing.

 

[p3tran]

I'm on year 130 or so and whenever the AI is completing it's turn it crashes the game. Doesn't seem to matter what I do on my turn before it, I can't stop it from freezing.

strange. i stopped for tonight at year 170++, game never hitched for me and i had a super-long session.
unless you are playing the iron thing, maybe try loading a little earlier save?
worst case scenario, hardbooting the console like there's no tomorrow might help

 

[Zoso]

Really enjoying the game so far. Playing with my wife and we've already had some heated debates about choosing the rulers with the best personalities and traits. Also, it's really cool to use the Bloodline we created in the game.

Played for almost 5 hours tonight, which is way more than usual. It's addictive and quite fun.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

yes I know, but unless they are bow/hunters, they ain't getting a hubbie/wife.
best thing can happen to them is either help tech or train heroes.

my hero bloodline hasn't got a casualty in battle since 100 years

So basically your nation is Westeros.

Got it.

 

[BananasWithGuns]

Not sure if I just suck at the game but lapses have essentially ruined my playthrough. I got to about year 80ish or so and just hit a wall because I was ending up with net losses of XP on missions.

Deleted my save since it wasn't worth continuing. I'll start over and see if I can have a better outcome tomorrow.

 

[CecilRousso]

Twinfinite - 5/5

 

[firehawk12]

RIP. I backed it off DFA hype and Fire Emblem comparison, but that was a mistake. lol

I was going to, but I figure I'd just wait and get it on sale. Turns out I got to try it for free. lol

 

[TheUnsunghero26]

Playing this on Xbox One and really enjoying it. I'm not too far in, but I'll definitely have to start mixing up the breeding a bit so I get more than caberjacks (House Davis represent!).

Have to say, when it comes to the actual gameplay, I think Brad Muir's games are Double Fine's best.

 

[CecilRousso]

Eurogamer review, quite positive:

Edit: Posted a review thread here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1055759

 

[Dog Problems]

Thanks for posting reviews. I've been adding them to the OT.

 

[CecilRousso]

Thanks for posting reviews. I've been adding them to the OT.

Ah, nice. Great work with this OT.

 

[a.wd]

Looked good in the preview, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8KyN5TZkZA Lookinjg forward to it.

 

[tuna_love]

I have a dude who is 159. No idea what his secret is.

 

[jesu]

I've liked what I've played(about 30 years in) but I'm not very good at it.
Will need to start again now I know what I'm doing and be a bit more cautious!

 

[Segaswirl]

strange. i stopped for tonight at year 170++, game never hitched for me and i had a super-long session.
unless you are playing the iron thing, maybe try loading a little earlier save?
worst case scenario, hardbooting the console like there's no tomorrow might help

Yeah I was playing it for hours too, couldn't put it down. I am playing on Iron mode though, so it looks like I may have to start again.

 

[OrigiNull]

I played a couple hours last night and am really enjoying it so far. While I do miss the 'overwatch' option for the Hunters I can't imaging it would be a good idea for the Alchemists.

Some of the wild throws they have sometimes... I can just picture overwatch triggering and them nuking my whole front line by accident.

 

[ringlord]

Enjoying this. Played it a bit in early access, but tried it out on the XB last night.

The challenging part (for me at least) is to plan far enough ahead so I don't pin myself in a corner. It's not possible to quickly correct for mistakes -- it takes years of game time to build up structures or to grow/hire new heroes. Trying to figure out the strategy on my own without resorting to others' templates.

 

[Zach]

I played for a short bit yesterday. Seems promising, but if it's harder than XCOM I should probably steer clear. I ain't got time for the frustration.

Also, I was disappointed in not being able to name my squad (unless I missed it).

 

[see5harp]

Man this shit is good. Love the marriage stuff and cool stuff like adopting kids. I sorta wish they had made the combat a little more strategic but man there's plenty to do with the non combat stuff.

 

[Shake Appeal]

This sounds up my alley, but I'm put off by all the complaints about the combat being uninteresting.

 

[decoyplatypus]

I backed this and basically ignored it for the better part of two years. Hope I'll get a chance to try it out this weekend.

 

[Parsnip]

 

[kitschykitty]

I love this game, got it free through gwg and I'm already up to year 154, I'm playing on normal and I'm not finding it too hard, the biggest problem is when a generation starts dying off, and you get down to all new soldiers which are lower levels and may not be as varied in classes as you'd want. I've also found ranged classes very overpowered, one of my hunters was hitting 100% accuracy from a few squares away with high 20's damage and with Follow Up and Put It Down I'm doing around 40 damage a turn right now.

It's punishing if you just run into every battle without thinking and that's what I really enjoy, it's easy to get surrounded and enemies that explode lead to tactics like this. I'm just glad to have something to scratch that XCOM itch.

Also Brad Muir was born in my game, he just says "" when he kills someone.

 

[Negaduck]

This game looks super cool. I'll have to get it eventually when funds look better. Love everything about double fine and after just finishing up watching the double fine adventure documentary I love everything about that company even more.

 

[Zyae]

When do your characters get a nickname? Is it killing x amount of enemies?

 

[PanicFreak]

I got this on GWG. It's a fun game so far but I have a question. Are there some good strategies to getting people to the higher levels as trainees? My trainees are level 2 at the most.

 

[FlyinJ]

I got this on GWG. It's a fun game so far but I have a question. Are there some good strategies to getting people to the higher levels as trainees? My trainees are level 2 at the most.

You need to put higher level kings/queens in keeps to breed. I'm not sure if you can replace kings/queens in keeps once you place them, though.

 

[Brakke]

Really loving this so far, but I'm definitely more excited for my second cycle than I am for finishing this first one. The game has a ton of systems and interactions it just does not explain or telegraph properly.

I think it suffers a little on the UX side, too. Cannot tell you how many times I set up a team with an Enforcer intending to use him as a scout, equipped him with a haste potion, run him up super far in stealth on the first turn, only to discover he has terrible vision and didn't actually end up revealing much map for me...

I think I made a mistake trying to get attached to individual heroes, when really you should be focusing on the bloodline as the unit of emotional investment. My peoples only get three or maybe only two (especially if they encounter a Wrinkler...) battles in before they're either dead or too old to bother developing.

But! I'm super psyched! My favorite House sent the lady I'd been intended to appoint as next Regent off to Transcend Space and Time! I hope that works out!

 

[CecilRousso]

Gamespot has the games designer, Brad Muir, as a guest on a livestream where they will look at the game. Starts in about 20 minutes.

http://www.gamespot.com/videos/massive-chalice-now-playing/2300-6425106/

 

[TyrantGuardian]

What a great game! Loving it thus far, though I got completely wrecked halfway through the 300 year cycle and felt like restarting the game now that I have a better grip on the mechanics.

 

[barneystuta83]

Thank you GwG for bringing this to me.

A great game, really challenging at times, and strategic on so many levels.

 

[Brakke]

that feeling when most your regents die all back-to-back so you make a bunch of keep appointments and then you're down to only 2 heroes in your stable but you're like 2 years away from Find Heroes mission completing and you hit play and pray and pray and pray there isn't a cadence attack

 

[Aureon]

Yeah, i'm really, really not feeling the tactical combat.
I expected something in the vein of FFT, but this is basically watered down XCOM. Noncombat looks nice, but... too much combat.

 

[JC Sera]

Got this game its pretty fun and addictive
Veil armour feels super OP
The cradle alchemist weapon is not worth the time to research it
my chosen classes are Brewtalist (god I love this barbarian-esque class best melee), Trick Shot (best thing against cradles) and Shadow Jacks.

Also the honed hearing skill is super worth it.