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[Liabe Brave]

All Japanese material has バンダイナムコゲームス, which is Bandai-Namco Games, and Namco-Bandai or NBGI is used on English material.

No, I'm afraid they're not that straightforward. NBGI is used on Japanese games, too--check out the Cross Edge trailer on Japanese PSN, for example.

 

[Regulus Tera]

Well, first of all it's Square Enix rather than "Square-Enix". I'm not sure if you read anything into the difference between two names and a hyphenated name.

Like you said, technically Enix absorbed Square, but it was a very even match. 1 Enix share = 0.85 Square share. Most of the executives in Square Enix came from Square rather than Enix, as you said. It's basically a pretty balanced merger.

I assume the name order is simply a matter of it sounding substantially better that way than the other way.

Dear God, it was just a question. I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!

Thanks, by the way.

 

[apujanata]

Maybe Koei caused Namco-Bandai to be inspired.

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Actually, I just get the sources of the predictions mixed up. Gundam is Bandai's, but I guess it was Koei who made the x+y prediction.

Capcom has the exact opposite problem with some of its Wii titles. I think they have some ridiculously low expectation for Dead Rising Wii, for example (150K worldwide or something like that?).

I wouldn't say that DR Wii expectation are ridiculously low. After all, it is a game with unproven market (you couldn't use RE4 Wii or RE:UC as basis to predict DR Wii #), and it is standard business practice to go for conservative estimate for forecast, as opposed to best case estimate (since it is cheaper/more cost effective to reprint something).

 

[schuelma]

Capcom has the exact opposite problem with some of its Wii titles. I think they have some ridiculously low expectation for Dead Rising Wii, for example (150K worldwide or something like that?).

I'm pretty sure expectations were 500-600K or something similiar.

 

[donny2112]

I'm pretty sure expectations were 500-600K or something similiar.

Maybe I'm thinking of one of the territories in the breakdown. I still expect more than 500K worldwide for the game. It's the RE4 engine. Wii needs more games with the RE4+ engine.

 

[markatisu]

it is standard business practice to go for conservative estimate for forecast, as opposed to best case estimate (since it is cheaper/more cost effective to reprint something).

Yeah but at the same time Capcom always forecasts super low, I cannot remember the last time Capcom forecast close or too high on any of their games on any platform

 

[Aaron Strife]

Yeah but at the same time Capcom always forecasts super low, I cannot remember the last time Capcom forecast close or too high on any of their games on any platform

IIRC they only forecasted 450k for RE4 and 600k for RE:UC or somewhere close to those numbers.

I think it's a way of pleasing their shareholders. They keep their predictions low so they can boast about how ___ exceeded their expectations.

 

[cvxfreak]

Well, RE4 Wii and REUC were probably lowballed because RE4 was a port, and REUC could be tied back to the Gun Survivor games, which never sold well.

 

[apujanata]

I'm pretty sure expectations were 500-600K or something similiar.

You are correct. In the FY09 Q1 report (business segment summary, page 7), the Dead Rising expectation is 500K, World Wide. I think donny's 150K could be Japan only expectation (and it is not mentioned in the above mentioned report).

Maybe I'm thinking of one of the territories in the breakdown. I still expect more than 500K worldwide for the game. It's the RE4 engine. Wii needs more games with the RE4+ engine.

I didn't know that this game are using RE4 engine. I will look into this game (previously not interested because I don't really like zombie type of game. Buying RE4 is an exception/special case for me, not the standard)

Yeah but at the same time Capcom always forecasts super low, I cannot remember the last time Capcom forecast close or too high on any of their games on any platform

Nintendo is also one of the Japanese company that always forecast prudently (too low). The only time they overfore-cast is during the GCN era (have to stop production for 6 months since there are too many GCN on market)

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

Eh...Sting fans do not kill me for the confusion now.

DSL　60000
PSP　25000
Wii　26000
PS3　8300
PS2　11000
360　10000

1.Super Robot Wars Z　361000
2.Pokemon Platinum　195000
3.World Destruction　59000
4.Rhythm Tengoku Gold　54000
5.Kinikkuman　37000
6.X-Edge　28000
7.Dragon Ball DS　26000
8.Wii Fit　21000
9.Aquanaut's Holiday　15000
10.Band Bros DX　14000

Other new games
11.Disaster　13000
12.Mana Khemia Portable　12000
15.Knights in the Nightmare　9300
....Knights in the Nightmare LE (with Yggdra Union GBA) 4200
....Kumatanchi (DS)　3500
....Janline (360)　1600
....Madden NFL09 (PS3)　500

 

[jman2050]

Platinum O_O

 

[Mr Killemgood]

Amazing numbers for the X360, SRW:Z and Poke Platinum.

 

[Tenbatsu]

11.Disaster　13000

 

[Dascu]

Eh...Sting fans do not kill me.

DSL　60000
PSP　25000
Wii　26000
PS3　8300
PS2　11000
360　10000

1.Super Robot Wars Z　361000
2.Pokemon Platinum　195000
3.World Destruction　59000
4.Rhythm Tengoku Gold　54000
5.Kinikkuman　37000
6.X-Edge　28000
7.Dragon Ball DS　26000
8.Wii Fit　21000
9.Aquanaut's Holiday　15000
10.Band Bros DX　14000

11.Disaster　13000
12.Mana Khemia Portable　12000
15.Knights in the Nightmare　9300

Poor Disaster, poor Knights in the Nightmare.

 

[Stumpokapow]

KNIGHTS IN THE NIGHTMARE IS IN LINE WITH STING'S RECENT TITLES

Still a bomb by any absolute scale, but there's no way after Yggdra and Riviera that Sting isn't aware of the ... uh... limited appeal of their games.

 

[harSon]

Is the 360 still supply constrained?

 

[Fady K]

Eh...Sting fans do not kill me.

DSL　60000
PSP　25000
Wii　26000
PS3　8300
PS2　11000
360　10000

1.Super Robot Wars Z　361000
2.Pokemon Platinum　195000
3.World Destruction　59000
4.Rhythm Tengoku Gold　54000
5.Kinikkuman　37000
6.X-Edge　28000
7.Dragon Ball DS　26000
8.Wii Fit　21000
9.Aquanaut's Holiday　15000
10.Band Bros DX　14000

11.Disaster　13000
12.Mana Khemia Portable　12000
15.Knights in the Nightmare　9300

360 at 10,000 in its third week since the surge, not bad at all.

SRWZ is crazy. World Destruction is still disappointing honestly. Surprised X-Edge sold 28,000 - excellent sales for a game that doesnt deserve half the sales. Shame for Sting, they have such solid efforts but not solid sales - even the PSP port of Mana Khemia sold better :/. Disaster is honestly, a Disaster.

 

[botticus]

Lots of returns for Knights in the Nightmare over the weekend?

 

[duckroll]

Lol, what a disaster indeed.

 

[jj984jj]

15.Knights in the Nightmare　9300

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

*stabs Kurosaki* You posted 10k for the first day! ;_;

KNIGHTS IN THE NIGHTMARE IS IN LINE WITH STING'S RECENT TITLES

Still a bomb by any absolute scale, but there's no way after Yggdra and Riviera that Sting isn't aware of the ... uh... limited appeal of their games.

;_;

 

[Dascu]

KNIGHTS IN THE NIGHTMARE IS IN LINE WITH STING'S RECENT TITLES

Still a bomb by any absolute scale, but there's no way after Yggdra and Riviera that Sting isn't aware of the ... uh... limited appeal of their games.

Yeah, but they deserve better sales.

 

[creamsugar]

外.同限定版　(Guitar Hero DS ?) 4200
Kumatan　3500
Janline　1600
Madden NF09 PS3　500

 

[Stumpokapow]

Worst debuting first-party Wii games

3. (TIE) Disaster
3. (TIE) Common Knowledge Training TV
2. Eyeshield 21
1. Captain Rainbow

 

[lo zaffo]

{...}
PS2　11000
{...}

1.Super Robot Wars Z　361000
2.Pokemon Platinum　195000
{...}
4.Rhythm Tengoku Gold　54000
{...}

Wow!! Unstoppable Pokemon Platina and Rhythm Tengoku Gold !!

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Somewhere out there, jimbo is smiling.


Though it's probably just gas.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

KNIGHTS IN THE NIGHTMARE IS IN LINE WITH STING'S RECENT TITLES

Still a bomb by any absolute scale, but there's no way after Yggdra and Riviera that Sting isn't aware of the ... uh... limited appeal of their games.

They know I love them. So it's all good.

 

[Stumpokapow]

They know I love them. So it's all good.

Sting financials, 2012:
"Dragona bought both of our titles this year, driving our net revenue up substantially to a total of 9800円. We expect lower results next fiscal year, as we are only releasing one title, but we are releasing a 7000円 deluxe edition so as to mediate this issue."

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

KNIGHTS IN THE NIGHTMARE IS IN LINE WITH STING'S RECENT TITLES

Still a bomb by any absolute scale, but there's no way after Yggdra and Riviera that Sting isn't aware of the ... uh... limited appeal of their games.

They are so minuscule that I wonder if overseas sales aren't exponentially bigger than these...*cough*Atlus USA when is this coming*cough*

First weeks:
GBA Riviera - 9,540
PSP Riviera - 10,047
GBA Yggdra - 17,728
PSP Yggdra - 21,989

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

*stabs Kurosaki* You post 10k for the first day! ;_;

Don't kill the messenger, kill the other messenger, sinobi. ><

 

[Jaruru]

DS is back to 60k, with Platinum
nice numbers around, except PS3 hardware

 

[Mr Killemgood]

Is the 360 still supply constrained?

Judging by certain reports that I've seen from forumgoers, yes, it's still supply constrained in many areas.

 

[Jonnyram]

Is the 360 still supply constrained?

According to sinobi, yes.

 

[Accident]

PS2 > PS3
When was the last time this happened?

 

[Stumpokapow]

They are so minuscule that I wonder if overseas sales aren't exponentially bigger than these...

Bigger but not exponentially. Both Riviera and YU are 5 digits in sales in the US.

 

[Jonnyram]

PS2 > PS3
When was the last time this happened?

About four or five weeks ago.

 

[Dragona Akehi]

Sting financials, 2012:
"Dragona bought both of our titles this year, driving our net revenue up substantially to a total of 9800&#20870;. We expect lower results next fiscal year, as we are only releasing one title, but we are releasing a 7000&#20870; deluxe edition so as to mediate this issue."

Hey I do my part.

Anyway, St!ng games see significantly better results, ironically enough, outside of Japan. So I'm sure they're not worried.

 

[harSon]

According to sinobi, yes.

That's pretty amazing (For the Xbox 360) then, I can't recall another instance where the 360 sold strongly weeks after a high profile game release/price drop.

 

[Mr Killemgood]

Hey I do my part.

Anyway, St!ng games see significantly better results, ironically enough, outside of Japan. So I'm sure they're not worried.

From reading other Famitsu charts, Knight's deluxe edition sold around 5,000 copies in addition to the ~10k sold, so it will most likely be in the top 10 if both titles were added together.

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

From reading other Famitsu charts, Knight's deluxe edition sold around 5,000 copies in addition to the ~10k sold, so it will most likely be in the top 10 if both titles were added together.

Oh wait, its the other title that just said Limited Edition then:
&#22806;.&#21516;&#38480;&#23450;&#29256;&#12288;(Guitar Hero DS ?) 4200

That should be KitN LE with Yggdra Union GBA. I thought it was a different game...Sting fans are really going to kill me.

 

[Mr Killemgood]

That's pretty amazing (For the Xbox 360) then, I can't recall another instance where the 360 sold strongly weeks after a high profile game release/price drop.

Blue Dragon led the X360 to very strong sales for quite some time after it debuted.

It led to a great time frame where the X360 had 5 consecutive weeks over 10,000 units sold, which is the highest amount of consecutive 10k weeks. This run, if over 10k, ties 2nd place for 3 consecutive weeks over 10k, which is very good.

For comparison, the Xbox 360 on a yearly basis, is 1 week away from topping 2006's numbers (Blue Dragon). It's 6 weeks ahead of 2007's cume (which ended up at 242,000 units).

At this rate, 300,000 units sold in 2008 seems likely. What will be interesting is to see if Microsoft can beat 2002, the best year MS ever had in Japan (only thanks to the debut of the Xbox at 120k).

 

[markatisu]

Lol, what a disaster indeed.

Matches most peoples expectations, though it almost finished in the Top 10 so what does that say about the overall week of sales

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

PS2 > PS3
When was the last time this happened?

About four or five weeks ago.

It's been a bit longer than that. However, making some comparison images for this year, sometimes they're close enough that it's hard to tell without actually checking the numbers.

Blue Dragon led the X360 to very strong sales for quite some time after it debuted.

It led to a great time frame where the X360 had 5 consecutive weeks over 10,000 units sold, which is the highest amount of consecutive 10k weeks.

Being December, though, it was less surprising to see holiday and game bump forces combining into a few decent consecutive weeks.

 

[Psychotext]

Sony need to blow the doors off at TGS. No question.

 

[jj984jj]

Oh wait, its the other title that just said Limited Edition then:
&#22806;.&#21516;&#38480;&#23450;&#29256;&#12288;(Guitar Hero DS ?) 4200

That should be KitN LE with Yggdra Union GBA. I thought it was a different game...Sting fans are really going to kill me.

*twists knife*

 

[cw_sasuke]

kinda crazy that nintendo will announce a new ds hardware tormorrow - when the ds lite is still the best sellin hardware.....

@pokemon platinum
so it will break 2 mil ?

 

[JaMarco]

DSL&#12288;60000
PSP&#12288;25000
Wii&#12288;26000
PS3&#12288;8300
PS2&#12288;11000
360&#12288;10000

Makes me wonder why Nintendo feels the need to release a new DS D:

 

[RJT]

Dear God, it was just a question. I didn't expect the Spanish Inquisition!

Thanks, by the way.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Spoiler

What? I wasn't beaten? Damn you, GAF!

 

[jeremy1456]

DSL&#12288;60000
PSP&#12288;25000
Wii&#12288;26000
PS3&#12288;8300
PS2&#12288;11000
360&#12288;10000

That'll do pig, that'll do.

 

[RBH]

DSL&#12288;60000
PSP&#12288;25000
Wii&#12288;26000
PS3&#12288;8300
PS2&#12288;11000
360&#12288;10000

Interesting....

 

[gtj1092]

Sony need to blow the doors off at TGS. No question.

I hope they do but i feel they are content to just continue at their hardware sales pace until they can get manufacturing cost under control. Which is why I believe they only foretasted shipments of 10 million for the fiscal year. That's probably the sweet spot for them to reach profitably while not complete falling behind in the hardware race during their financial year.

 

[Nolan.]

Sony need to blow the doors off at TGS. No question.

People say this every run up to Tgs well every one since the ps3 launched.

Edit: also trusty bell dropped a lot? I guess it's not too surprising.