I'm not cherrypciking anything, I'm saying Konami's avoided giving DS/Wii big name/budget/selling AAA games... and it doesn't look like that'll be changing any time soon. Instead they're delivering these sorts of games to the 2nd and 3rd place consoles and handheld.kswiston said:So basically, Konami doesn't support Nintendo systems as long as you cherry pick which games count as support. How is Konami worse at supporting Nintendo than Square-Enix? Because DQIX is coming to the DS? It's pretty obvious that they are spending a lot more money on their PS3 exclusive Final Fantasy games than they on DQIX and their other DS remake titles. Probably more than all of those games combined actually. How is that any different than MGS4 (the biggest project that Konami currently has going) coming out for the PS3?
In reality, there are all of two Konami series remaining on Sony consoles at this point. One series controlled by Kojima, who has more than earned his right to make his games on whatever platform he chooses. The other is silent hill, whose portable version would have been a poor fit on the DS anyhow.
Besides, ignoring budgets, I'd argue that Konami's DS games on a whole have been a lot better than their PSP games. That's what matters in the end.
jarrod said:I'm not cherrypciking anything, I'm saying Konami's avoided giving DS/Wii big name/budget/selling AAA games... and it doesn't look like that'll be changing any time soon. Instead they're delivering these sorts of games to the 2nd and 3rd place consoles and handheld.
Namdai, Square Enix, Capcom and SEGA meanwhile all are bringing some significant releases to Nintendo platforms (in addition to the PlayStation/Xbox machines btw)... there's the difference.
On the other hand, DQ Swords did pretty well for itself, on par with the best selling PS2 DQ spinoff even and better than any previous year one Square or Enix release yet actually.schuelma said:Ehh..I'm skeptical. Especially given how Chocobo sold.
Right now, if you don't include FF:CC:CB because of development questions, they have ONE Wii game announced- the FF:CC Wi Ware title.
Neomoto said:But don't forget that EVERY publisher that's somebody already banked on PS3 (and x360) from the get go. Wii just "happened" to become what it is today almost out of the blue (so it's "Nintendo's fault" no one saw the huge succes it would become?).
charlequin said:I agree it would be stupid for Nintendo to gun for the very biggest titles like GTA4 and pay the associated auction-house premiums they would command. In reality, though, MS and Sony mostly just go after different games, and support a wide variety of second-tier titles that their competition doesn't necessarily care about; Nintendo could easily do the same, commissioning (or even publishing) unique or new-IP titles with large budgets from major third parties and making them an important part of their overall marketing strategy.
birdchili said:is there seriously a question of whether third party support is going to get better than it is now? surely it is. it's just not likely that a bunch of cinematic hd-style games are going to suddenly be on-the-way for wii.
nintendo's strategy of: target new gamers with wii ___-style games and tons of advertising and target gamecube/core gamers with gamecube sequels and no significant advertising leaves a lot of room for third parties to experiment in areas that are ill-served so far. the wii audience seems pretty diverse really, i imagine there will be quite a few success stories in various styles before the gen is in its twilight.
test_account said:I know the question wasnt adressed to me, but i want to answer anyway hehe No, Uncharted hasnt reached 100k in Japan yet and i doubt it ever will, but if its a bomb or not is not easy for me to say since i have no idea how many copies that were expected to be sold. Joshua's site shows tracking numbers for only 1 week, its at 16,914 copies sold. Famitsu top 20 PS3 games for 2007 has it at 38,242. Uncharted was released 6th December 2007, which means it sold about 12,500 copies in average each week uptil 31th December.
Bad or not, you tell me I would guess Uncharted has broken atleast 40k in Japan by now. Do anyone have any idea how big or small the expectations was for this game?
The more megatons, the more dramas. The MH3 announcement was big fun.Starchasing said:Im just waiting for the first megaton for Wii. Its going to be hilarious and its bound to happen. I just hope its some big PS franchise that gets waggled
Well technically, it almost does. The PS2 generation of profits have already been devoured by the PS3 sinkhole.charlequin said:Er... it made Sony the undisputed king of videogames for two generations. Sony's big mistake in pricing the PS3 doesn't actually undo the immense amount of money they brought in from two extremely successful generations based entirely around wooing third parties.
Minsc said:Thanks for the reply, I was curious to how it's progressed. Better than I expected, it may reach close to 100,000 yet. I was originally commenting on its sales because the poster I quoted was trying to say it didn't bomb, when I fully believe it did, in Japan and in the US. I haven't seen concrete numbers out of Europe, but it's been charting a lot there lately. I wasn't looking to discuss US or Europe here though, which brings me back to Japan, where it "bombed."
I think people are commenting about the game's release when they say it bombs, atleast that is how I think of it (and that is all the data we have when people say such things anyway). Whether the game picks up later or not doesn't change it bombing when it came out. I don't even really care for the term, as it seems even the worst bombs still manage to amount a fair number of copies these days, shown by Z&W's 300K sales worldwide.
I can't imagine expectations were very high for Uncharted in Japan, but at a minimum, based off reviews, word of mouth, and 360 sales of western games, an opening week of 30-50,000 would have quieted down a lot more people imo. Initial sales from the US were worse than Japan, because the expectation was definitely higher there.
jman2050 said:Wii's "DQIX" will come soon enough I believe, and the resulting thread for whatever game ends up being the smoking gun will be hilarious.
I've heard this over and over. Being on a Nintendo platform had nothing to do with "crying and bitching" as you claim. To give you people some perspective, imagine Nintendo announce a new 3d Mario for the Wii2 or whatever..only to renounce it a year later and make it a DS exclusive! Awesome yes?
Minsc said:I don't even really care for the term, as it seems even the worst bombs still manage to amount a fair number of copies these days, shown by Z&W's 300K sales worldwide.
topscouse said:Did Z&W really sell that much? If so it did a lot better than i expected.
topscouse said:Did Z&W really sell that much? If so it did a lot better than i expected.
:OAniHawk said:It sold well to the people that live in the land of dragons and sorcery.
Starchasing said:Im just waiting for the first megaton for Wii. Its going to be hilarious and its bound to happen. I just hope its some big PS franchise that gets waggled
TheBranca18 said:You're what's wrong with gaming.
AniHawk said:It sold well to the people that live in the land of dragons and sorcery.
AniHawk said:It sold well to the people that live in the land of dragons and sorcery.
Of course not. But to gleefully hope that other gamers don't get what they're interested in? Douchebaggery of the highest order.vanguardian1 said:Choice of words aside, it's wrong to be a gamer that's not interested in the PS3 or 360?
AniHawk said:It sold well to the people that live in the land of dragons and sorcery.
Yes, how is that even possible? The fact that said poster wishes games assumed to go to one of those platforms goes to Wii instead shows they are interested in those platforms.vanguardian1 said:Choice of words aside, it's wrong to be a gamer that's not interested in the PS3 or 360?
AniHawk said:It sold well to the people that live in the land of dragons and sorcery.
I believe it is. Although, I didn't know Z&W already came out in Hogwarts.Oblivion said:Is it too late to change my answer to Hogwarts?
Parl said:I believe it is. Although, I didn't know Z&W already came out in Hogwarts.
schuelma said:Ehh..I'm skeptical. Especially given how Chocobo sold.
AniHawk said:Poland?
Or he's hoping to get the games he wants?Liabe Brave said:Of course not. But to gleefully hope that other gamers don't get what they're interested in? Douchebaggery of the highest order.
Middle-earth?AniHawk said:It sold well to the people that live in the land of dragons and sorcery.
Kandinsky said:How many copies do you think brawl will sell this week? (im bored D: )
-Brawl, 180k too low
-DMC4, 140k (combined) too high
It's not wrong so much as not possible.vanguardian1 said:Choice of words aside, it's wrong to be a gamer that's not interested in the PS3 or 360?
donny2112 said:Oh, get off it! Square-Enix has two games for the Wii. A no-brainer good seller (though below my own expectations, well above Square-Enix's) and an, at worst, low-middling title. They are not going to write-off Wii development due to a big profit-maker and an, at worst, minor loss project. Square is stupid. Enix is not. Guess which side each of those games belonged to.
Fredescu said:It's not wrong so much as not possible.
No, he's looking forward to it because "it's going to be hilarious" when people complain about losing out, not because he wants anything specific to play. I'm all for hoping more great games come out on Wii. Couching that in terms of denying others, though, means his priorities are out of whack.BishopLamont said:Or he's hoping to get the games he wants?
Liabe Brave said:No, he's looking forward to it because "it's going to be hilarious" when people complain about losing out, not because he wants anything specific to play. I'm all for hoping more great games come out on Wii. Couching that in terms of denying others, though, means his priorities are out of whack.
MH3 covers the japanese market pretty well. For the west it needs some good shooters with co-op and all the works. Hopefully the success of RE4 and Ghost Squad might spur some quality full FPS/TPS games, but we haven't heard of any in development yet that I know of.Xeke said:Of course. As soon as the Wii starts getting those games it'll be a whole different shit show. It wont be about how the Wii doesn't get the third party support, it will be about how those games SHOULD be on the 360 and PS3, just like the MH3 announcement.:lol
G4life98 said:ani, are there any notable numbers from your store and you feel are worth reporting? like brawl or gta pre-orders?
First Children said:DS needs a new Brain Training/Nintendogs style of game, a new IP with that impact, some kind of 'musical training' would be nice.
It needs to sell another 20 millions in the next 3 years, maybe even more. It's important not to lose momentum.Xeke said:DS needs nothing. It's sold over 20 million in 3 years. Give it a break.
Liabe Brave said:Of course not. But to gleefully hope that other gamers don't get what they're interested in? Douchebaggery of the highest order.
Liabe Brave said:No, he's looking forward to it because "it's going to be hilarious" when people complain about losing out, not because he wants anything specific to play. I'm all for hoping more great games come out on Wii. Couching that in terms of denying others, though, means his priorities are out of whack.
It's why I'm a stalker/fan of ethelred.ethelred said:I'll admit, I am a complete ass. Of the very highest order.
theres nothing wrong with being a Wii-only gamer.ethelred said:I'm torn between wanting to see Wii-only owners never get a single worthwhile game ever and my desire to see spates of irrational conniptions from graphic whores when major franchises are shunted down to the Wii.
I'll admit, I am a complete ass. Of the very highest order.
Innotech said:theres nothing wrong with being a Wii-only gamer.
Innotech said:theres nothing wrong with being a Wii-only gamer.