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[Tabris]

 

[Doc Holliday]

I think Tabris took my sony going 3rd party a little too seriously.

 

[cvxfreak]

I thought that maybe, this week, DSLite sales will go down below 100K, since the supply was much better starting from early June. I was wrong.

Actually, the higher the supply, the higher the sales. Mainly because Nintendo just can't meet demand in Japan.

 

[apujanata]

I'm not DrinkyCrow. I like Nintendo. Love Zelda and own a good amount of Nintendo games.

See picture:

I just dislike Nintendo fanboys.

Maybe your problem is just that you do not have a very good memory. You mentioned several WRONG perception, based on wrong data, and somebody correct you. That's all.

 

[Deku]

I'm not DrinkyCrow. I like Nintendo. Love Zelda and own a good amount of Nintendo games.

See picture:

I just dislike Nintendo fanboys.

This is not uncommon in GAF. mos tof us are multiplatform owners, but I've followed your posts back when the PSP vs DS thing was always raging, and some of the claims you made were pretty out there and well, in retrospect, probably all wrong.

You certianly don't have to hide the fact that you prefer the PSP, however misguided that position may be. Sorry I just wanted to have a little fun. I take it back. you're not misguided.

Anyways, Welcome to the DS family.

 

[Emotions]

I'm not DrinkyCrow. I like Nintendo. Love Zelda and own a good amount of Nintendo games.

See picture:

I just dislike Nintendo fanboys.

Well, Just jump on the DS bandwagon and embrace your DS lite and quit whining.
Your logic was flawed though.

 

[Matt]

...What is the point of this post?

 

[Tabris]

Yeah, well I was wrong on the DS vs PSP for worldwide sales, but I've been out of the "ballgame" for a month or two and before that, DS and PSP were close to 50/50.

 

[ethelred]

Yeah, well I was wrong on the DS vs PSP for worldwide sales, but I've been out of the "ballgame" for a month or two and before that, DS and PSP were close to 50/50.

... worldwide, the DS has been well ahead of the PSP in software and hardware for a very long time. Worldwide != America.

 

[Matt]

Yeah, well I was wrong on the DS vs PSP for worldwide sales, but I've been out of the "ballgame" for a month or two and before that, DS and PSP were close to 50/50.

No they weren’t. Unless you think the DS has sold six million+ units in the last 2 months.

 

[jGuru]

Mario still at it.

I'm not DrinkyCrow. I like Nintendo. Love Zelda and own a good amount of Nintendo games.

I just dislike Nintendo fanboys.

Wow, you and I can be friends then.

 

[A Link to the Past]

I'm not DrinkyCrow. I like Nintendo. Love Zelda and own a good amount of Nintendo games.

See picture:

I just dislike Nintendo fanboys.

Color me surprised. The constant blind zealous PSP favorism threw me off track.

 

[apujanata]

I think, what is more interesting is predicting "When will DS+DSL sales for a week in Japan fall below 100K for the first time since June 2006"

My own answer is : July 30, 2006. (I am just predicting, without any analysis or whatever)

 

[apujanata]

Yeah, well I was wrong on the DS vs PSP for worldwide sales, but I've been out of the "ballgame" for a month or two and before that, DS and PSP were close to 50/50 in US.

Fixed.

 

[apujanata]

No they weren’t. Unless you think the DS has sold six million+ units in the last 2 months.

Should it be PSP, instead of DS ?

 

[cheekymunky]

Color me surprised. The constant blind zealous PSP favorism threw me off track.

Congratulations apujanata. All you had to do was post a picture of your Nintendo porn and all is forgiven. :lol :lol :lol



The PSP will be waiting for you when you see the light.


I kid, I kid.

 

[Matt]

Should it be PSP, instead of DS ?

lol, well, both ways make sense, but yours maybe more so

 

[apujanata]

Congratulations apujanata. All you had to do was post a picture of your Nintendo porn and all is forgiven. :lol :lol :lol



The PSP will be waiting for you when you see the light.


I kid, I kid.

Huh ? You quoted ALTTP post, and you mentioned my name ?

 

[apujanata]

I think, what is more interesting is predicting "When will DS+DSL sales for a week in Japan fall below 100K for the first time since June 2006"

My own answer is : July 30, 2006. (I am just predicting, without any analysis or whatever)

Anyone else want to play this game ?

 

[Tabris]

DS: 4,600,000 (NA) + 8,700,000 (JP) + ????????? (EU) =

PSP: 4,500,000 (NA) + 3,550,000 (JP) + ????????? (EU) =

Once we find out EU numbers, we can get a true idea of the ratio. Either way, hardly "dominated". Especially when comparing what the PS2 did worldwide during the same time frame, and what we can expect from PS3.

 

[apujanata]

DS: 4,600,000 (NA) + 8,700,000 (JP) + ????????? (EU) =

PSP: 4,500,000 (NA) + 3,550,000 (JP) + ????????? (EU) =

Once we find out EU numbers, we can get a true idea of the ratio. Either way, hardly "dominated".

What is YOUR definition of dominated ?

 

[cheekymunky]

Huh ? You quoted ALTTP post, and you mentioned my name ?

Im just teasing.....Its just funny to me that you had to provide a picture of your Nintendo games before people would not think you were just an over zealous Sony fanboy...thats all.

 

[Tabris]

What is YOUR definition of dominated ?

Dominated is the wonderswan, the nomad and the ngage, which the nbots on this forum compare the PSP with in these sale threads.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

A few weeks back I wondered if a new record had been set for million sellers in the top 10 at once. Soon it seems there might be four 2+ million sellers.

And now the hardware rerelease comparison I do each week.

GBASP after 15 weeks: 1.05M
DSL after 15 weeks: 2.20M
Time for GBASP to reach 2.20M: ~45 weeks

"GBA after SP" after 15 weeks: 273K
"DS after DSL" after 15 weeks: 440K
Time for "GBA after SP" to reach 440K: ~31 weeks

GBM after 15 weeks: 404K
DS after 15 weeks: 1.90M
PSP after 15 weeks: 1.06M

It's worth noting that the LTD point the DSL is currently matching up to on GBASP (the ~45 weeks) is in the beginning of the GBASP's first holiday bump, which consisted of a 132K week, a 168K week, and a 243K week. Before and after they were sub-100K.

P.S What caused the spike in the "DS" hardware? I seem to recall it being super low last week (<5K). I thought Nintendo had phased it out in japan.

Maybe it's that batch of stolen ones. :lol

P.P.S Pachart where are you>

In the last thread.

http://joshuajamesslone.name/gamecharting/pacchartweekly.php?date=2006-06-12

http://joshuajamesslone.name/gamecharting/piechartweekly.php?date=2006-06-12

http://joshuajamesslone.name/gamecharting/barchartweekly.php?date=2006-06-12

In link form only since it's ginormous: the YTD chart at the same scale as the weeklies. http://joshuajamesslone.name/gamecharting/piechartspan.php?date1=2006-01-02&date2=2006-06-12

 

[Matt]

DS: 4,600,000 (NA) + 8,700,000 (JP) + ????????? (EU) =

PSP: 4,500,000 (NA) + 3,550,000 (JP) + ????????? (EU) =

Once we find out EU numbers, we can get a true idea of the ratio. Either way, hardly "dominated". Especially when comparing what the PS2 did worldwide during the same time frame, and what we can expect from PS3.

It's gotta be close to 2x, which is pretty much domination. And considering that the difference is growing (and will continue to grow in the DS’s favor, with the launch of the DS Lite), I really don’t think you should hang your hat on that argument.

 

[future_pinoy]

How much longer until you guys stop saying impressive? It's been like that for like 6 months now and every thread has someone saying how impressive the DS sales are.

Blame demi for my return

Very Impressive Indeed !

Go Nintendo

 

[mj1108]

DS: 4,600,000 (NA) + 8,700,000 (JP) + ????????? (EU) =

PSP: 4,500,000 (NA) + 3,550,000 (JP) + ????????? (EU) =

Once we find out EU numbers, we can get a true idea of the ratio. Either way, hardly "dominated". Especially when comparing what the PS2 did worldwide during the same time frame, and what we can expect from PS3.

You know damn well that if those JPN numbers were flip-flopped you'd be singing a different tune about the definition of "domination". :lol

 

[Tabris]

It's gotta be close to 2x, which is pretty much domination. And considering that the difference is growing (and will continue to grow in the DS’s favor, with the launch of the DS Lite), I really don’t think you should hang your hat on that argument.

How is a 65/35 (at worst) ratio dominated? Remember, both the Gamecube and the XBox had smaller ratios to the PS2. So you're admiting that the Gamecube, at it's prime, was 100% dominated by the PS2.

 

[BorkBork]

DS: 4,600,000 (NA) + 8,700,000 (JP) + ????????? (EU) =

PSP: 4,500,000 (NA) + 3,550,000 (JP) + ????????? (EU) =

Once we find out EU numbers, we can get a true idea of the ratio. Either way, hardly "dominated". Especially when comparing what the PS2 did worldwide during the same time frame, and what we can expect from PS3.

I think we will see a greater than PS1 vs the N64 marketshare by the end of the current handheld generation. That would be what I (and most people) would consider domination. Mario and DSlite's effects have yet to felt in North America, and the installed base in Japan is growing as fast as Nintendo can manufacture them, with the truly big guns coming up in the next few months. It's going to get ridiculous, really fast.

 

[Matt]

How is a 65/35 (at worst) ratio dominated? Remember, both the Gamecube and the XBox had smaller ratios to the PS2. So you're admiting that the Gamecube, at it's prime, was 100% dominated by the PS2.

lol, yes, I have no problem saying that.

 

[cvxfreak]

The Pacman chart is misleading this week due to the higher DS sales.

 

[GaimeGuy]

How is a 65/35 (at worst) ratio dominated? Remember, both the Gamecube and the XBox had smaller ratios to the PS2. So you're admiting that the Gamecube, at it's prime, was 100% dominated by the PS2.

what the **** are you talking about?

 

[cvxfreak]

The WonderSwan lineup sold a little over 2.3 Million systems in Japan - overall, 1 million+ less than PSP.

 

[Tabris]

I don't actually know

I'm just argueing cause I dislike the nbot circle jerk for ds but I didn't come into the arguement with any kind of plan of what to argue with

I gotta get some sleep.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Tabris, why are you even hanging onto the idea that Europe has Sony as the victor? Animal Crossing and Brain Age have been doing awesome in Europe - and here's a hint - it's not the people who bought Mario Kart and Nintendogs that are buying Brain Age. Yeah, PSP sure is gliding on those Daxter sales figures.

I don't actually know

I'm just argueing cause I dislike the nbot circle jerk for ds but I didn't come into the arguement with any kind of plan of what to argue with

I gotta get some sleep.

DC isn't just a failed system

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

How much longer until you guys stop saying impressive? It's been like that for like 6 months now and every thread has someone saying how impressive the DS sales are.

Not only is it that an individual week's numbers are impressive, though, but that it has gone on for so long. The DS is like the Ken Jennings of Japanese Sales-Age.

 

[apujanata]

Dominated is the wonderswan, the nomad and the ngage, which the nbots on this forum compare the PSP with in these sale threads.

I think you mistaken the word "monopoly" and "domination". IMO.

 

[Tabris]

Tabris, why are you even hanging onto the idea that Europe has Sony as the victor? Animal Crossing and Brain Age have been doing awesome in Europe - and here's a hint - it's not the people who bought Mario Kart and Nintendogs that are buying Brain Age. Yeah, PSP sure is gliding on those Daxter sales figures

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I'm not allowed to talk about those

 

[soundwave05]

The other flaw in that whole logic is this ... the DS lead is not stagnant.

Every week in Japan that it outsells the PSP by 100k+ makes that gap bigger and bigger.

This lead is not shrinking, because Sony really isn't making up any significant ground in the US/Europe.

And I think the tide may be turning in the US as well with the DS Lite now out and Brain Training/NSMB doing well. If Nintendo goes to $99.99 US this fall for the DS, I think it's almost a given they will take 2006 in North America as well.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

The Pacman chart is misleading this week due to the higher DS sales.

Append ?group=hardwarefamily to the URL, and it bundles together DS/DSL and GBA/GBASP/GBM , and whatever other future systems I tell it to.
(EDIT: Also Wonderswan Color and SwanCrystal if we turn back the clocks.)

http://joshuajamesslone.name/gamecharting/pacchartweekly.php?group=hardwarefamily

Or ?group=manufacturer
http://joshuajamesslone.name/gamecharting/pacchartweekly.php?group=manufacturer

The same goes for most of the other chart types I show as well.

 

[Emotions]

I don't actually know

I'm just argueing cause I dislike the nbot circle jerk for ds but I didn't come into the arguement with any kind of plan of what to argue with

I gotta get some sleep.

You would be joining it if it was a sonybot PSP circle jerk though.

 

[ethelred]

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I'm not allowed to talk about those

:lol

You're in good spirits today, man.

 

[apujanata]

DSL after 15 weeks: 2.20M
DS after 15 weeks: 1.90M
GBASP after 15 weeks: 1.05M
PSP after 15 weeks: 1.06M
GBM after 15 weeks: 404K

If I am not mistaken, DSL is beating DS record, for the first 15 weeks sales since launch. Is that correct ? Do you have the figure for the first 15 weeks of GBA ?

 

[cvxfreak]

I don't actually know

I'm just argueing cause I dislike the nbot circle jerk for ds but I didn't come into the arguement with any kind of plan of what to argue with

I gotta get some sleep.

I didn't know responding with facts makes you an N-Bot.

 

[apujanata]

I didn't know responding with facts makes you an N-Bot.

Confession of an CVXFREAK :
I am NOT N-bot as people said I am. I am Resident Evil-bot. I admit it.

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

You certianly don't have to hide the fact that you prefer the PSP, however misguided that position may be.

This is the bullshit that I take offense to.

Yes, the DS is beating the PSP sales-wise in 2 of the 3 major territories, in Japan by 5 million and in America by 100K, more or less.

However, to say that you're misguided because you like the PSP better than the DS is EXTREMELY misguided. That's like the highest in jackass-ery.

Aside that, we'd need some numbers from other territories as well, as much or as few as they'd account to being. Both handhelds have a very bright future, that's for sure. If Sony would actually market the PSP, it'd be much brighter for the black sexy device.

 

[Emotions]

I didn't know responding with facts makes you an N-Bot.

Everyone who has even the remotely interest in Nintendo and enjoy something from theirs is considered an Nbot, this term is thrown away very loosely.

 

[Matt]

Yes, the DS is beating the PSP sales-wise in 2 of the 3 major territories, in Japan by 5 million and in America by 100K, more or less.

The DS is also beating the PSP in Europe, and in American it's at least ahead by 300K+ by now.

 

[Deku]

I didn't know responding with facts makes you an N-Bot.

Well the adhoc attacks is being made by several people here on GAF, some of them are pretty influential too in terms of the GAF heirarchy. I think Tabris just picked up on it as a talking point.

Basically, sustained praise and support of anything Nintendo makes you an Ntard (more inflamatory term) and I've certainly been accused of being one. But their (collectively) sustained defense of the PS3/PSP etc., trolling against Nintendo or their hate-on flavour of the month memes, doesn't grant them special names. I can't help but see it being a little one sided.

I hesistate to call them collectively as Sony fans since I'm assuming some of them are viral marketers (from Sony or mS) or just bitter gamers who got a bit too comfortable being bitter about all things Nintendo in the last 10 years. Generally though some people who still have their mind like this is 2000-2002 are getting pretty annoyed by the supposed Nintendo revival.

Of course to be fair, most of them don't troll.

 

[apujanata]

This is the bullshit that I take offense to.

Yes, the DS is beating the PSP sales-wise in 2 of the 3 major territories, in Japan by 5 million and in America by 100K, more or less.

However, to say that you're misguided because you like the PSP better than the DS is EXTREMELY misguided. That's like the highest in jackass-ery.

Aside that, we'd need some numbers from other territories as well, as much or as few as they'd account to being. Both handhelds have a very bright future, that's for sure. If Sony would actually market the PSP, it'd be much brighter for the black sexy device.

You should have quoted the complete sentence : You certianly don't have to hide the fact that you prefer the PSP, however misguided that position may be. Sorry I just wanted to have a little fun. I take it back. you're not misguided.