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Famitsu: Japan's 21st Century Top 100 Selling Games
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WiiU & Vita will also outsell the upcoming xbox one
Japan will always be a loosing market for MS. No amount of my little kinects can't be this cute or moneyhatted jrpgs will save them
Aaronrules380
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You'll note that outside of Nintendo, the amount of console games meeting that criteria is just one, meaning 3/4 recent console games on the list are Nintendo (and those 3 sold much higher than FFXIII, the one exception). The truth is that Japan has largely moved from consoles to portables, whether you like it or not. That's why it's a joke to judge a home console's success by Japanese sales nowadays. Like, I honestly doubt the ps4 will do that amazingly in Japan either because the state of that market has changed
You're missing the point.
FFXIII's number is impressive but so is the drop to XIII-2. More than half the people who bought XIII skipped XIII-2, whereas X-2 sold just a little less than X.
You have to take into account the fact that a sizable share of those 10 millions (including myself) are using their PS3 in a mostly casual fashion.
I remember SCEJ announced they had sold 1 million units of their PS3 TV recording peripheral Torne about two years ago, when PS3 total numbers were probably around the 9 millions mark.
Meanwhile, there is only one game that ever hit that same 1 million mark: FFXIII.
My sister-in-law is 17 and has, I think, four DS games, and I know three of them are English Training, Tomodachi Collection and Animal Crossing. I forgot the fourth one but I think it's another "Learn English"-type software.
= Japanese kids.
Not as crazy when you realize that even with that drop, 13-2 still sold to about 9.4% percent of its user base. That's only slightly below FF12's ratio of 11% to games/system sold. There are many ways to spin this into a positive as you could as a negative.
This does not even take into account digital sales, which to be fair were never heard of in the PS2 era.
HolyBaikal
Banned
From the sound of it, though, the XBOX 360 was extremely poorly advertised in Japan. And that Japan lacked commitment in getting Japanese software on their platform.
Early on in the live of the XBOX 360, Microsoft tried very hard at getting Japanese audiences to buy the system. But it seems that Microsoft was very quick on give up on that matter. Past titles like Blue Dragon, the PlayStation 3 started taking off, and Microsoft stopped making an effort to get titles like it on their system.
I don't think it is impossible for a non-Japanese system to be very successful in Japan. Microsoft just handled it poorly.
Aaronrules380
Member
To my understanding Digital sales are pretty much negligible for the vast majority of titles in Japan. Animal Crossing New Leaf had quite a few, but it was an exception due to the nature of the game as well as a digital push made by Nintendo for that game. I doubt digital sales would have much of an impact on this chart
It's crazy how much software Nintendo has sold in the last decade in Japan. Seeing all this Nintendomination makes me wonder why the N64, Gamecube, and currently the Wii U haven't done well in Japan. I know Sony dominated with the Playstation and PS2 but based on these number you'd think Nintendo would've still done well.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
Famitsu: Japan's 21st Century Top 100 Selling Games
Surely if they counted XBox Live downloads this list would be totally different.
Shogun1337
Junior Member
Ah, true but the heavy DLC of FF13-2 is an area that I really would love to see hard numbers on. If even half of the WW sales bought Sazh, Snows', and Lightning's DLC, they would have made like a sales equivalent of 300k more sales.
But alas SE is tight on it.
BUT a big shout out to FFVIII being one of most successful games of all time : ) Kneel before Triple Traid!!!!
It's at number 30 with 2,279,000 copies sold.
Percentage to user base is not the problem. X and XIII numbers are pretty close, which means the same fanbase was present in both case. PS2 had a far more varied and rich library compared to the PS3, so the user base was naturally higher.
As for digital sales, it's difficult to know much it sold but it wasn't probably much. If you insist to say it's important, then let's take into account XIII-2 was thrown into the bargain bin during it's first month in Japan, and so many people bought it for half or even a quarter of its price, me included.
XIII-2 sold very well for a PS3 title but the drop from the previous entry is something unseen before for the series. There's no arguing many, many players were disappointed with XIII looking at those sales numbers.
Urban Scholar
Member
I still say got dayum to Dragon Quest IX's numbers.
I could be wrong in thinking this. But kids really abandon a lot of the gaming, manga, anime habits after college. Even if they want to, its so frowned upon and there is so much pressure on them.
It seems each generation sort of defines what the go to system is. On top of that Japan has had a mobile fashion industry surrounding their phones much longer than the US and Europe. iOS has been particulary embraced, and mobile iOS games are much more palatable than shoehorning more western titles onto touchscreen controls.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Wait, who ever thinks that way is stupid. A start always begin at 1.
I'm not spinning anything, I'm just looking at hard numbers and applying basic logic.
Product A sold such amount, its sequel, product A-2, sold 84% of A numbers.
Product B sold such amount, its sequel, product B-2, sold 46% of B numbers.
A was liked, B less so. Period.
Anyway, I agree it will be interesting to see how LR performs, especially compared to X/X-2 HD.
From what I get it the companies lost more than they gained when they teamed up exclusivly with Microsoft. At least if I should believe the so called "hardcore" group on a certain chan board.
As I mentioned above, how true can that be? If your tag is valid that is
The vita has pretty good third party support already. As for great jrpgs, have you heard of Falcom?
Add Atlus to that.
I will seriously feel offended if P5 doesn't end up on it...for about 30 seconds then I'll just be offended by the dreary wait time for localization, then offended because I had to import it and finally offended a last time because I had to double dip because they changed the European LE and I want that one as well.
What I'm most shocked is that the best selling game is only in the 6 million mark. This is a country of 127 million people, heavily technologically inclined, I would have expected a bigger number to be honest, maybe the market in Japan is really dying, how did previous generations perform there?
fake edit: ok this is usually how games perform there, this is eye opening, I was always under the impression worldwide gaming sales were half the US, half Japan, rest of the world gets the scraps.
fake edit: ok this is usually how games perform there, this is eye opening, I was always under the impression worldwide gaming sales were half the US, half Japan, rest of the world gets the scraps.
Starphoenix
Member
So much Dragon Quest, Pokémon and Mario.
Wish Dragon Quest struck it bigger overseas.
Wish Dragon Quest struck it bigger overseas.
that has always been the dumbest possible opinion
Dark_castle
Junior Member
So...Japan loves Nintendo, Pokemon, and Dragon Quest.
Dv8thwonder
Banned
Tell that to the investors of Square-Enix. Oh wait... you can't.
Good spot. The exact same people bought each of those Xbox 360 RPGs.
Dv8thwonder
Banned
Said no one sane.
it still amazes me what the ds did for animal crossing as a franchise.
also being a somewhat weak entry in the series to boot... >___>
thinking back to the original and all the confusion and non-game scorn it got on gamecube, to where it is grew a gen later... even while being a fan, thinking AC would be a system seller much less twilight other nintey franchises sans mario/pokemon...
also, nice to see some kirby hanging around. now only if LM2 can climb to that 1m...
also being a somewhat weak entry in the series to boot... >___>
thinking back to the original and all the confusion and non-game scorn it got on gamecube, to where it is grew a gen later... even while being a fan, thinking AC would be a system seller much less twilight other nintey franchises sans mario/pokemon...
also, nice to see some kirby hanging around. now only if LM2 can climb to that 1m...
HolyBaikal
Banned
Agreed.
It's saddening how Dragon Quest has struggled here.
On the bright side, Dragon Quest IX did significantly well abroad.
Earthpainting
Member
Kind of adorable how close they are. Gives you a good idea what the RPG playing audience on the system is in Japan. I must say I'm surprised of the attach rate of these titles though. Figured it would be higher than this.
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Deleted member 20920
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I think the upper limits remain the same but overall there are less games that hit the million mark. I remember seeing a comparison chart with top selling games from the 90s.
Also, FFXIII sales was really good for amount of PS3s that were in the market when it launched. It was around 4 to 5 million PS3s sold back then. The drop however does indicate that players who bought the first didn't want to return to the sequel.
The drop between PS2 and PS3 hardware sales also suggests that the market might indeed be moving towards handheld and mobile at the expense of consoles. We shall see in Feb 2014 and beyond.
Don't worry, only 700,000 sales separate the bottom of the list and what you like.
So what your saying is home consoles in general from ALL THREE manufacturers don't sell very well in Japan these days. So why the extra burden on Nintendo? I get that the Wii U is selling badly everywhere so it needs to pick up the flack, but this is about sales in japan and let's be honest at least Nintendo have something that's actually selling well HW/SW wise in Japan handheld or otherwise.