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[JoshuaJSlone]

I'm curious if the huge ToS dropoff is partly due to supply issues, or whether it really was just that front loaded. It might not even hit 225K now..

I threw the values for Tales into the trajectory matcher, letting it match +/- 5K each week. Only one match, but it did go on to 236K.

Here's a bigger selection to compare to, after widening it to +/- 10K for each week.

When you want to read a graph, a good place to start is the legend. It provides helpful hints to tell you what the lines represent. Next, you can read the axis markers to derive from context what each dimension of the graph represents. CHEAT CODE: The x-axis of a graph is often the measure of time!

This is good and all, but at the time he posted I'd flubbed things up in linecomparegamejp.php so that the legend text wasn't showing up.

 

[Allan Holdsworth]

Greetings from Japan. J-GAF, I am one of us. I'm fairly settled in here, but wouldn't you know it, I get a rotten headache and cough right when I get here.

If you guys would like me to take up the reigns again, I may be able to at least provide the OP contents. I'll be on the trains or in class when the weekly data goes live, so that's a no-go unless people want threads posted automatically without any copy-editing.

Anyways, it didn't look like too many people missed the translations and presentation. *shrug*

I miss the better presentation but if I posted about it I would appear as an ungrateful bastard to cvxfreak. Besides I never post in this topics, but I always read them (at least the first couple pages). Your effort is surely appreciated.

 

[Journeywalker]

Cheese, as a frequent reader of Media Create threads, I really appreciate your efforts. I would have given up reading these threads long ago if the "first poster to paste untranslated Japanese wins!" mentality had won out. I don't mean to knock cvx, but it's not the same.

 

[Phife Dawg]

When you want to read a graph, a good place to start is the legend. It provides helpful hints to tell you what the lines represent. Next, you can read the axis markers to derive from context what each dimension of the graph represents. CHEAT CODE: The x-axis of a graph is often the measure of time!

Ehm at the time he was posting the legend was just displaying Josh's number (as he already adressed in an earlier post). You could guess that it was MGS2+3's sales but certainly not know by looking at the graph.

Btw. Diamond/Pearl back in the Top30. :lol

Yeah they've been creeping back up the last few weeks. Any reason for this? Promotion, Anime stuff?

 

[hirokazu]

Yeah they've been creeping back up the last few weeks. Any reason for this? Promotion, Anime stuff?

Platinum, perhaps?

 

[noonche]

Ehm at the time he was posting the legend was just displaying Josh's number (as he already adressed in an earlier post). You could guess that it was MGS2+3's sales but certainly not know by looking at the graph.


Yeah they've been creeping back up the last few weeks. Any reason for this? Promotion, Anime stuff?

Have they been creeping up or has the cut-off for making it onto the chart been creeping down?

 

[Vilix]

Greetings from Japan. J-GAF, I am one of us. I'm fairly settled in here, but wouldn't you know it, I get a rotten headache and cough right when I get here.

If you guys would like me to take up the reigns again, I may be able to at least provide the OP contents. I'll be on the trains or in class when the weekly data goes live, so that's a no-go unless people want threads posted automatically without any copy-editing.

Anyways, it didn't look like too many people missed the translations and presentation. *shrug*

CVXFreak has done a great job. But I miss the Cheese. ^_^

 

[cvxfreak]

Feel free to make comments about how much you miss Cheese's format, because I miss it too.

The ease he's provided the MC charts since last year was really taken for granted.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Have they been creeping up or has the cut-off for making it onto the chart been creeping down?

The last time they made the top 30 was the week of January 7. Since then there have been plenty of times the top 30 ended under 5K or even 4K, so it at least hasn't been selling 5100 each week. Based on the LTD then and now, it seems like they've averaged maybe 3.5K a week?

However, since we don't have the weekly view it's hard to characterize its weekly performance as creeping in any particular direction.

 

[Phife Dawg]

Platinum, perhaps?

I'm not into Pokemon - is there a benefit to own either Pearl or Diamond on top of Platinum? If it's just a couple of Pokemon I doubt people are so hardcore, yet haven't bought either P or D by now.

Have they been creeping up or has the cut-off for making it onto the chart been creeping down?

Could be - I'm too lazy to look it up though. Maybe donny can help, he posts the Famistu chart.

 

[Sagitario]

So did ToS sell 177,000 or 164,000?

 

[Busaiku]

So did ToS sell 177,000 or 164,000?

Different trackrs have different numbers.
They're both reliable, but the estimates sometimes differ a lot.

 

[charlequin]

What I don't understand is why people expected MGS4 to deviate largely from the sales of the prior games in the series.

For a lot of people, I think it's honestly not having a clear picture of the franchise's previous performance (with a side of not knowing how being on a less popular platform hurts your title's legs.)

 

[Rock_Man]

Let’s summarize the first half of the year. The first graph shows hardware data and total top 100 software data tracked by Media Create.

Hardware is down 22% and software is down 13%. We should consider lower DS sales as the only reason for the decline.

By comparing consoles to portables we see that the market now is almost divided equally if counting software unit sales. Again, DS is the reason for the declined portable sales shares.

Looking at hardware sales, the portables are still larger but the only reason for that is higher PSP sales.

The purpose of the following graph is to show this. Blue is consoles and red is portables.

For the latter half of 2008, I expect consoles to gain on the hardware side, but the opposite could happen on the software side considering new big DS games.

 

[Golden Darkness]

Platinum, perhaps?

Well, that and there's the movie 11 coming next week.

Movie 11.

 

[Rock_Man]

MGS4 is the definition of a spike:

Edit: Updated DS/PSP graph too. The red line is an approximation in the software graph.

 

[Rock_Man]

PSP 56,439 / 2,192,400 / 9,857,477
DS 47,455 / 1,661,075 / 22,834,125
Wii 44,525 / 1,743,935 / 6,360,094
PS3 14,359 / 565,677 / 2,207,348
PS2 11,768 / 275,049 / 21,202,089
Xbox 360 4,776 / 77,285 / 584,625

 

[Frillen]

PSP 56,439
DS Lite 47,455
Wii 44,525
PS3 14,359
PS2 11,768
Xbox 360 4,776

Edit: Om my GOD Rock_Man! How DID you do it? :lol :lol

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

PSP 56,439 / 2,192,400 / 9,857,477
DS 47,455 / 1,661,075 / 22,834,125
Wii 44,525 / 1,743,935 / 6,360,094
PS3 14,359 / 565,677 / 2,207,348
PS2 11,768 / 275,049 / 21,202,089
Xbox 360 4,776 / 77,285 / 584,625

What did the PSP do last week? The number doesn't seem as high as I remember.

Also, it seems that the Metalspike has indeed been driven into the tracks of time.

 

[jj984jj]

Greetings from Japan. J-GAF, I am one of us. I'm fairly settled in here, but wouldn't you know it, I get a rotten headache and cough right when I get here.

If you guys would like me to take up the reigns again, I may be able to at least provide the OP contents. I'll be on the trains or in class when the weekly data goes live, so that's a no-go unless people want threads posted automatically without any copy-editing.

Anyways, it didn't look like too many people missed the translations and presentation. *shrug*

I did, I was looking for backtracking links a few days ago.

 

[justchris]

Greetings from Japan. J-GAF, I am one of us. I'm fairly settled in here, but wouldn't you know it, I get a rotten headache and cough right when I get here.

If you guys would like me to take up the reigns again, I may be able to at least provide the OP contents. I'll be on the trains or in class when the weekly data goes live, so that's a no-go unless people want threads posted automatically without any copy-editing.

Anyways, it didn't look like too many people missed the translations and presentation. *shrug*

We missed it, but didn't want to make you feel bad for abandoning us.

You dead beat.

 

[Link]

Because I want to check if MGS4 is placed where it should be (top 3). It's incredible how dumb it looks with it selling less than a mil.

It's incredible how dumb you look thinking it would.

 

[Gaborn]

Greetings from Japan. J-GAF, I am one of us. I'm fairly settled in here, but wouldn't you know it, I get a rotten headache and cough right when I get here.

If you guys would like me to take up the reigns again, I may be able to at least provide the OP contents. I'll be on the trains or in class when the weekly data goes live, so that's a no-go unless people want threads posted automatically without any copy-editing.

Anyways, it didn't look like too many people missed the translations and presentation. *shrug*

OMG, you're BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK. I think we all missed you, everyone else filled in amazingly but there's something about your pie charts that make me all warm and fuzzy. No need to go out of your way or anything, take care of yourself and such but when you get around to it your presentation is too classic to just abandon.

 

[Novid]

What did the PSP do last week? The number doesn't seem as high as I remember.

Also, it seems that the Metalspike has indeed been driven into the tracks of time.

I think 55 thousand, im not to sure.

Also, Thats twice and by the same 12 - 15,000 units that Enterbrain missed by how much the Wii sold. Seems PSP has made great inroads this year... but theres that Chrono Remake. (hey, sony... you see that PSN? Remote Play? Japan getting all the nice games from PSN? wink wink)

 

[tanod]

We missed it, but didn't want to make you feel bad for abandoning us.

You dead beat.

Same for me.

Me gusta quezo.

 

[Jonnyram]

Xbox 360 4,776

Someone said the 360 bump last week was because of Gundam. Wonder what their excuse is this week :lol

 

[schuelma]

Someone said the 360 bump last week was because of Gundam. Wonder what their excuse is this week :lol

No disrespect towards the 360, but is a "bump" up to 4-5K particularly relevant/meaningful?

 

[Jonnyram]

No disrespect towards the 360, but is a "bump" up to 4-5K particularly relevant/meaningful?

Yeah, it's sales have doubled the usual amount for the last couple of weeks. It was down to 2k a week for a long time.

 

[schuelma]

Yeah, it's sales have doubled the usual amount for the last couple of weeks. It was down to 2k a week for a long time.

Ok, but I guess my point is- is a bump from 2k to 4K, even if it lasts going to make any significant difference? I'm far more interested in how ToV sells- it doing well would mean a lot more than a 2K a week bump IMO.

 

[icecream]

Well, can you give a reason as to why hardware sales would suddenly double at least a month before any big release?

I suppose therein lies the fun.

 

[Gaborn]

Ok, but I guess my point is- is a bump from 2k to 4K, even if it lasts going to make any significant difference? I'm far more interested in how ToV sells- it doing well would mean a lot more than a 2K a week bump IMO.

I don't think it matters much, but deviations from the norm are at the least interesting and worth noting, and this is a pretty strong deviation from a long established trend.

 

[Jonnyram]

Ok, but I guess my point is- is a bump from 2k to 4K, even if it lasts going to make any significant difference? I'm far more interested in how ToV sells- it doing well would mean a lot more than a 2K a week bump IMO.

Well if it stays at 2k a week, it will take 4 years to reach a million. At 4k it will take 2 years. I think MS's most reasonable goal this gen is to hit a million, and it is nice to see signs that this is possible. They'll have a few spikes with the new RPGs too, but it would be nice if the base sales picked up a little.

 

[schuelma]

Well if it stays at 2k a week, it will take 4 years to reach a million. At 4k it will take 2 years. I think MS's most reasonable goal this gen is to hit a million, and it is nice to see signs that this is possible. They'll have a few spikes with the new RPGs too, but it would be nice if the base sales picked up a little.

Fair enough. God knows they're working hard enough to reach that goal.

 

[donny2112]

Famitsu Jun 23-29

1. WII Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World 151138 / NEW
2. NDS Derby Stallion DS 147158 / NEW
3. NDS Daigasso! Band Brothers DX 122183 / NEW
4. PS2 Hisshou Pachinko*Pachi-Slot Kouryoku Series Vol. 12: CR Shinseiki Evangelion: Shito, Futatabi 50350 / NEW
5. NDS Higurashi no Nakukoru ni Kizuna: Dai-Ichi-Kan - Tatari (1st Chapter - Tatari) 42702 / NEW
6. PS3 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot 32661 / 576437
7. WII Wii Fit 30800 / 2261333
8. PSP Ken to Mahou to Gakuen Mono. (Sword & Magic & School) 30701 / NEW
9. 360 Mobile Suit Gundam: Operation: Troy 29934 / NEW
10. WII Super Mario Stadium: Family Baseball 27630 / 86242
11. PS2 Sengoku Basara X 26897 / NEW
12. WII Mario Kart Wii 23584 / 1526664
13. NDS Bleach: The 3rd Phantom 22340 / NEW
14. PSP Super Robot Taisen A Portable 21444 / 115201
15. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 G 17510 / 2300505
16. PS2 The King of Fighters '98 Ultimate Match 16848 / NEW
17. 360 Battlefield: Bad Company 14787 / NEW
18. NDS Disgaea: Hour of Darkness - Prince of the Demon World and the Red Moon 14666 / NEW
19. PSP Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu Portable 3 13272 / 200134
20. NDS Beautiful Letter Training DS 12975 / 304096
21. WII Wii Sports 11595 / 3009692
22. NDS Ookami to Koushinryou: Boku to Horo no Ichinen (Spice and Wolf: My One Year with Horo) 10705 / NEW
23. NDS Bokura no TV Game Kentei 10173 / NEW
24. NDS Taiko Drum Master 2 9133 / 218472
25. WII Wii Play 8858 / 2402085
26. PSP World Neverland 2-in-1 Portable 8598 / NEW
27. NDS Mario Kart DS 8553 / 3112363
28. NDS DS Yamamura Misa Suspense: Kyoto Murder Files 7930 / 69152
29. PS2 Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 4 7876 / 66024
30. PS2 Aria: The Origination ~Aoi Hoshi no El Cielo~ 7221 / NEW

*. NDS The Tower DS 7200 / NEW
*. NDS Kunitori Zunou Battle: Nobunaga no Yabou 7100 / NEW
*. NDS Dementium: The Ward 5000 / NEW
*. NDS Hakoniwa Seikatsu: Hitsuji Mura DS 5000 / NEW
*. PSP Winning Post 6 2008 4200 / NEW
*. NDS Disney Friends 3200 / NEW
*. PS2 Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ (ULTIMATE) 2900 / NEW
*. PS3 Enemy Territory: Quake Wars 2700 / NEW
*. PS2 Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special (ULTIMATE) 2000 / NEW
*. PSP Shinkyouku Soukai Polyphonica 0-4 Hanashi Full Pack 2000 / NEW
*. PS3 The Darkness 1900 / NEW
*. WII The World of Golden Eggs: Nori Nori Rhythm Kei 1400 / NEW
*. PS2 Final Fantasy XII (ULTIMATE) 1100 / NEW
*. PS2 Sunsoft Collection 1100 / NEW
*. NDS Jigsaw World: Daigekitou! Jig-Battle Heroes 750 / NEW
*. PS2 Kingdom Hearts II (ULTIMATE) 610 / NEW
*. PS2 Taito Memories 2 Vol. 1 (ETERNAL) 600 / NEW
*. PS2 Taito Memories 2 Vol. 2 (ETERNAL) 590 / NEW


Recent Famitsu Top 30s

May 26-Jun 1, 2008
Jun 2-8, 2008
Jun 9-15, 2008
Jun 16-22, 2008

 

[Kasumi1970]

with the PSP doing so good in Japan, maybe it will start getting more software.

 

[jeremy1456]

with the PSP doing so good in Japan, maybe it will start getting more software.

The only thing I get from the charts is that it will keep getting Gundam and Monster Hunter.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Based on the latest Famitsu numbers...
PS3 comparisons: After 86 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 19.5 weeks (July 12, 2000), where PSP was at 52.0 weeks (December 4, 2005), where GCN was at 92.3 weeks (June 16, 2003), and where Wii was at 21.7 weeks (April 27, 2007).

Wii comparisons: After 83 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 85.7 weeks (November 7, 2002), where DS was at 67.9 weeks (March 18, 2006), where PS2 was at 95.9 weeks (December 28, 2001), and where PSP was at 146.9 weeks (September 29, 2007).

Based on the latest Media Create numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 45.7 / 54.3, bringing total shares to 70.0 / 30.0. If this week's rates continue, PSP catches up to DS in 1451.4 weeks (May 1, 2036). If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 231.0 weeks (December 10, 2012).

Aaaactually, the lifetime split by Media Create numbers is now more like 69.98 / 30.02, so PSP has reached above 30% total marketshare for the first time since the week of 2006-05-08. As an even further historical note, the first time it reached as high as 30% was the week of 2005-01-24, during that post-launch few months when PSP outsold DS.

PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 24.4 / 75.6, bringing total shares to 25.8 / 74.2. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 289.2 weeks (January 21, 2014).

Famitsu software pie for the week of 2008-06-23:

DS: 47.3
Wii: 22.3
PS2: 11.5
PSP: 10.4
PS3: 4.5
X360: 3.8

This is the first time PS2 has lead PSP in software percentage since two weeks before MHP2G. This is the closest X360 has been to PS3 since it beat it the week of this year's Idolmaster game.

A note on Famitsu/Media Create hardware discrepancies: the Wii number for the week of 06-23 sticks out, with Famitsu having 60K and Media Create having 48K. However, from a percentage standpoint the X360 difference is even greater: Famitsu has 3.2K while Media Create has 5.1K.

 

[santouras]

Greetings from Japan. J-GAF, I am one of us. I'm fairly settled in here, but wouldn't you know it, I get a rotten headache and cough right when I get here.

If you guys would like me to take up the reigns again, I may be able to at least provide the OP contents. I'll be on the trains or in class when the weekly data goes live, so that's a no-go unless people want threads posted automatically without any copy-editing.

Anyways, it didn't look like too many people missed the translations and presentation. *shrug*

cheese I miss your layout heaps!

 

[Hammer24]

They'll have a few spikes with the new RPGs too, but it would be nice if the base sales picked up a little.

Thats a nice point for thought.
What would you prefer? A nice bump worth making a press release boasting it; or a raise of the base sales that help to reach your long term sales goals, no matter how flat they look compared to the competition?

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Got the new Famitsu software data up, as well as the mid-year Top 100; it was easier to get the Top 30 out of the way first for purposes of new games and weekly ranks.

Plenty of new software groups tonight. A few all-new, but most are from me taking two pretty large groups and making sub-groups.

Tales of Phantasia
Tales of Destiny
Tales of Eternia
Tales of Symphonia
Tales of Rebirth
Tales of the Abyss
Tales of the World

Mario Baseball
Mario Golf
Mario Tennis
Mario Soccer - As someone pointed out in the Top 100 thread, Strikers Charged has taken the lead. I couldn't say if a reduced price or natural legs are the bigger factor, though.

Band Brothers
Derby Stallion

 

[Raggy]

I helped you a bit cvxfreak. Add to OP?
(hope I got the numbers correct)

Hardware - This Week |  Last Week |       YTD |        LTD
1. PSP   -    56,439 |    58,861  | 2,192,400 |  9,857,477
2. NDS   -    47,455 |    48,884  | 1,661,075 | 22,834,125
3. WII   -    44,525 |    48,480  | 1,743,935 |  6,360,094
4. PS3   -    14,359 |    17,973  |   565,677 |  2,207,348
5. PS2   -    11,768 |     7,673  |   275,049 | 21,202,089
6. 360   -     4,776 |     5,104  |    77,285 |    584,625

Media Create Sales 5/5 - 5/11
Media Create Sales 5/12 - 5/18
Media Create Sales 5/19 - 5/25
Media Create Sales 5/26 - 6/1
Media Create Sales 6/2 - 6/8
Media Create Sales 6/9 - 6/15
Media Create Sales 6/16 - 6/22
Media Create Sales 6/23 - 6/29

Software numbers are typically posted on Wednesday nights at about midnight Eastern.
Hardware numbers are typically posted Thursday nights at about 9:20 PM Eastern.

 

[iidesuyo]

The only thing I get from the charts is that it will keep getting Gundam and Monster Hunter.

Sport games do well. Like every game that has seen a little effort.

 

[Phife Dawg]

Sport games do well. Like every game that has seen a little effort.

Poor Patapon, UGG, SH etc.

Just out of curiosity, outside of PES, MnG and PowaPuro, what sports games did PSP receive? I honestly can't think of any.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

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[pswii60]

How come 360 was at 5k last week, 4k this week? Wasn't it tracking between 1-2k just a few weeks ago?

 

[Fischbrot]

No first day sales from Resident Evil 0?

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

No first day sales from Resident Evil 0?

I predict 50k. (too much?)

 

[lochnesssnowman]

I predict 50k. (too much?)

Probably about 10 times too much. Can't see it breaking 10k. There's no reason for owning it over the GC version - and it's a 6/7 year old game.

 

[manzo]

How come 360 was at 5k last week, 4k this week? Wasn't it tracking between 1-2k just a few weeks ago?

Probably the SO4 + IU + timed exclusive LasRem announcement. At least 2chan and 2ch are bitching about them not being on PS3 -a lot-.

Opetoro "bump" has gone already.

 

[Fischbrot]

Why not 100k? :lol