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donny2112 said:
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Media Create Sales: 9 - 15 Oct
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For crap tenchu did alright. Keep on going dead rising.
Barf_the_Mog
powerless or are they? o_O
Will Blue Dragon be on this next week's or the following week's sales chart? (Same question regarding that new training game for the DS.)
Nintendo said they'd ship 20 million within a 12 month period (I don't know when this period started). That's 385,000 per week on average, but let's say that the holiday weeks add on an extra 10 weeks to that to make a regular week an average of about 323,000 per week. That's simply not enough for worldwide weekly.
However, they did say they were producing 2.2 million per month (up from 2 million) several months ago. So maybe the Japan shortages were to take care of launching DS Lite in NA and Europe and also stockpiling for the holiday (like I said in a previous post).
After the holiday has died down, and obviously the initial surge of the Lite's launch in NA and Europe has died down (although it seems like it gets re-launched every week), we should better supply compared to demand in Japan and the rest of the world.
At 2.2 million units a month, that's 507,000 units per week. 80,000 for NA? 150,000 for Japan? 100,000 for Europe? Not going to be 170,000 units for the other regions. More like 20,000 or something (probably less).
For sales next year, are Nintendo expecting around 115,000 per week in NA, 220,000 for Japan and 145,000 in Europe and then about 30,000 for other regions (or whatever it sells in other regions)?
That'd be over 26 million units sold per year, easily outselling PS2. If this is the case, then Wii have a bright future.
However, they did say they were producing 2.2 million per month (up from 2 million) several months ago. So maybe the Japan shortages were to take care of launching DS Lite in NA and Europe and also stockpiling for the holiday (like I said in a previous post).
After the holiday has died down, and obviously the initial surge of the Lite's launch in NA and Europe has died down (although it seems like it gets re-launched every week), we should better supply compared to demand in Japan and the rest of the world.
At 2.2 million units a month, that's 507,000 units per week. 80,000 for NA? 150,000 for Japan? 100,000 for Europe? Not going to be 170,000 units for the other regions. More like 20,000 or something (probably less).
For sales next year, are Nintendo expecting around 115,000 per week in NA, 220,000 for Japan and 145,000 in Europe and then about 30,000 for other regions (or whatever it sells in other regions)?
That'd be over 26 million units sold per year, easily outselling PS2. If this is the case, then Wii have a bright future.
Clever Pun
Member
Barf_the_Mog said:
uh.. isn't the release for Blue Dragon in December?
EDIT: confirmed my suspicion - it's out december 7
Barf_the_Mog
powerless or are they? o_O
Clever Pun said:
What was jonnyram's thread about then?
Barf_the_Mog
powerless or are they? o_O
ethelred said:
Or maybe I read the title correctly?
Blue Dragon 360 ltd bundle sells out in 5 mins! - jonnyram
Don't be a dick, I made a little mistake.
So why do Nintendo stockpile units for the holiday? If they can sell a DS as soon as it's produced, then why not? Stockpiling is usually something you avoid and everyone with knowledge in logistics know how important it is to get rid of the stock as fast as possible.
I know we've seen spikes in hardware sales for big games like New SMB and Pokemon and people have been saying that Nintendo stockpiled the weeks prior to to those releases. I would rather say that these spikes can be achieved thanks to smaller shipments to US/Europe those particular weeks.
Some of you say that it would be better for Nintendo to sell 2 million in November and 4 million in December than 3 million each month. I haven't heard a good reason for that yet. Can someone explain?
I know we've seen spikes in hardware sales for big games like New SMB and Pokemon and people have been saying that Nintendo stockpiled the weeks prior to to those releases. I would rather say that these spikes can be achieved thanks to smaller shipments to US/Europe those particular weeks.
Some of you say that it would be better for Nintendo to sell 2 million in November and 4 million in December than 3 million each month. I haven't heard a good reason for that yet. Can someone explain?
Pureauthor
Member
Rock_Man said:
Hardware drives software and vice-versa. If Nintendo cannot get a good stockpile of units this holiday season, software sales will take a hit as well, particularly for a few games that would need or want the holiday season to drive sales.
Rock_Man said:
Maintaining a market presence is a necessity during the high-sales holiday period. It's not just a matter of hardware... software figures into the picture, too. The sales of everything are higher during that period of time. Even in Japan, people will be buying games and systems during the holiday at a much higher rate than they would throughout the rest of the year, and a severely constrained hardware presence would have a brutal effect on Nintendo's ability to move software as well.
In a week where 600,000 units of hardware are being sold, just imagine what that does to the games. Everything gets a boost. A huge boost. Everything.
Aside from that... you really just absolutely have to have a presence during that period of time. You just have to. It's the highest sales period, and if you're not able to come closer to meeting the vastly increased demand, it hurts you -- some of those are sales you won't just get back as soon as stock is replenished. It's a way of maintaining market strength -- in a period of time where people are going to be buying something, you want them buying what you're selling... because otherwise, they'll be buying what the other guy's selling.
Rock_Man said:
Because the person buying it in November isn't necessarily the same person that would like to buy it in December.
Bear in mind the reason sales are so high around the holidays: gift giving. If you want to give a system and some games to someone as a gift... you're probably not going to give them any games if it's impossible to give out the system itself. Or if you get a system as a gift, you're going to be inclined to go get a bunch of games -- more than you'd likely be inclined to get if you bought the system yourself.
That makes some sense, at least in the rest of the world where not everyone owns a DS already. I hope these reasons are big enough to stockpile. Nintendo should know. It would be very sad if we see japanese weekly sales of around 200k in December.
I've felt stress since January because of these shortages! :lol
I've felt stress since January because of these shortages! :lol
Pureauthor
Member
Um... stress?
Scalemail Ted
Member
Rock_Man said:
The fact that youre asking that question to someone else who also posts in a 'game centric' message board infamous for scrutinizing 'sales related' data should clue you in.
WrathOfOtaibah
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Rock_Man said:
:lol :lol :lol
Jesus Christ
Moor-Angol
Banned
donny2112 said:
what a big difference between Famitsu and MC data...
Barf_the_Mog
powerless or are they? o_O
Moor-Angol said:
I could be wrong but I've always assumed that Famitsu data was more accurate, but Media Create was much faster - therefore our discussions are based on the most recent data.
Moor-Angol
Banned
Barf_the_Mog said:
i's not my fault if Famitsu data are 15 days ago and MC are 7 days ago...
i just said that cause usually Famitsu data are lower than MC (look at LTD for nSMB, AC or Brain Training or Rhythm Tengoku GBA).
I am always interested in Famitsu data cause they can track games longer than MC.
Anyway, it was just curiosity
Moor-Angol said:i's not my fault if Famitsu data are 15 days ago and MC are 7 days ago...
i just said that cause usually Famitsu data are lower than MC (look at LTD for nSMB, AC or Brain Training or Rhythm Tengoku GBA).
I am always interested in Famitsu data cause they can track games longer than MC.Anyway, it was just curiosity
Same with me. I also track Famitsu data instead of M-create, for exactly the same reason (Top 30 instead of Top 10).
I used to track Dengeki, since they have Top 50 (better than Famitsu's Top 30). However, since they stop releasing the Top 50 sales figure (and change it into something like M-create's format, in which only Top 10 games sales are shown), I switched to Famitsu.
Moor-Angol, do you archive the old Famitsu's html file (in Japanese language) ? If yes, can you please e-mail it to me ? I have been absent from the internet for about 2-3 years, so I have a whole lot missing data I need to gather around.
Moor-Angol
Banned
Apujanata, i just send you a PM right now, so we don't go OT here
elostyle said:
I should have been more accurate in my statement. I am away from the GAF sales related conversation (and also Famitsu, M-create and Dengeki), which I used to keep up every week, for the last 2 - 3 years. I became active again starting from around May 2006. During that time, I still check my yahoo e-mail every month or so.
The reason is very simple : Having a full time work as IT sales, with your own family (wife, 2 kids) mean you have to choose between keeping track of sales or playing game. I choose to play game, instead of keeping track of game sales. Since May, I have more free time, so I can use that additional free time (during work, mostly) to keep track of game sales.
My feeling about those absence : Bad at first, but after a few weeks, I don't have any withdrawal issues. But once you get back to it, it will be harder to stay away from it again.
Enough of this OT topic. Any more personal question will be ignored by me
.donny2112 said:
The Romance of Three Kingdom based game from KOEI that I know are :
- RoTK series (war and resource management games). (Sangokushi)
- DT series (war and tactics SRPG) (Sangokushi Senki)
- DW series (beat-them-up-a-ton with RPG element) (Sangoku Musou)
"San go ku" is "3 kingdom", right ?
I remember the first Sangokushi game (or RoTK) game I play was on PC (1-3). The first RoTK game on console I play was either 4 or 5 (on PS1). Since I am a strategy fan, I prefer RoTK compared to DW (Dynasty Warrior). The reason I purchase PS2 is to play Sangokushi Senki (IIRC) or Dynasty Tactics (DT). I have played DT1 and DT2. My son played those DW 3, 4 and 5 games.
Just because I felt like it ...
Here's a graph showing US and Japan, DS and PSP, average weekly sales since November 2004 in NPD format. AKA, it follows a 4-4-5 week format for months.
I find it interesting that for the DS in June, when the DS Lite was launched in the U.S. and it had a massive month and, at the same time, Japan was having a "down" month, that Japan average weekly sales still beat out U.S. average weekly sales.
Also, maybe someone can figure out the amplitude and frequency of that DS sales pattern in Japan and figure out something. :lol
Here's a graph showing US and Japan, DS and PSP, average weekly sales since November 2004 in NPD format. AKA, it follows a 4-4-5 week format for months.
I find it interesting that for the DS in June, when the DS Lite was launched in the U.S. and it had a massive month and, at the same time, Japan was having a "down" month, that Japan average weekly sales still beat out U.S. average weekly sales.
Also, maybe someone can figure out the amplitude and frequency of that DS sales pattern in Japan and figure out something. :lol
For totals, I have about 17.7 million DS and 9.2 million PSP.
Oct 16 - 22 (Famitsu)
1 NDS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
2 PS2 Captain Tsubasa
3 NDS Gekitou! Custom Robo
4 GBA Final Fantasy V Advance
5 PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo
6 NDS New SMB
7 NDS More Brain Age
8 NDS Zaidan Houjin Nihon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Kounin Kanken DS
9 PS2 Minna no Tennis
10 NDS Animal Crossing Wild World
bold = new
1 NDS Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
2 PS2 Captain Tsubasa
3 NDS Gekitou! Custom Robo
4 GBA Final Fantasy V Advance
5 PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo
6 NDS New SMB
7 NDS More Brain Age
8 NDS Zaidan Houjin Nihon Kanji Nouryoku Kentei Kyoukai Kounin Kanken DS
9 PS2 Minna no Tennis
10 NDS Animal Crossing Wild World
bold = new
Chris Michael
Banned
Wow Custom Robo sold pretty well, if true.
Is this game already out? I want impressions!
Is this game already out? I want impressions!
DefectiveReject
Banned
Was 11 last weekSoul4ger said:
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
donny2112 said:Just because I felt like it ...
Here's a graph showing US and Japan, DS and PSP, average weekly sales since November 2004 in NPD format. AKA, it follows a 4-4-5 week format for months.
I find it interesting that for the DS in June, when the DS Lite was launched in the U.S. and it had a massive month and, at the same time, Japan was having a "down" month, that Japan average weekly sales still beat out U.S. average weekly sales.
Also, maybe someone can figure out the amplitude and frequency of that DS sales pattern in Japan and figure out something. :lol
For totals, I have about 17.7 million DS and 9.2 million PSP.
That graph is awesome! More of those plz.
Mr. Pointy
Member
Tom Nook threatens to break people's legs if they don't buy his game.Rlan said:
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Rock_Man said:
6/10 for Nintendo DS.
3/10 PS2.
1/10 GBA
=> Nothing new.
PhoenixDark
Banned
No worries for FFIII. As the PS2/GBA games fall out the top ten it'll rise back.
neo2046
Member
http://www.gpara.com/ranking/mediacreatebn/ranking_20061026.php
Oct 16 - 22
1 NDS Pokemon Diamond - 138,000 / 1,371,000
2 NDS Pokemon Pearl - 94,000 / 1,191,000
3 PS2 Captain Tsubasa - 42,000 / NEW
4 NDS Kanken DS - 36,000 / 157,000
5 NDS Gekitou! Custom Robo - 34,000 / NEW
6 GBA Final Fantasy V Advance - 32,000 / 157,000
7 NDS New SMB - 30,000 / 3,304,000
8 PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo - 28,000 / 360,000
9 NDS More Brain Age - 22,000 / 3,336,000
10 NDS Animal Crossing Wild World - 20,000 / 3,349,000
Oct 16 - 22
1 NDS Pokemon Diamond - 138,000 / 1,371,000
2 NDS Pokemon Pearl - 94,000 / 1,191,000
3 PS2 Captain Tsubasa - 42,000 / NEW
4 NDS Kanken DS - 36,000 / 157,000
5 NDS Gekitou! Custom Robo - 34,000 / NEW
6 GBA Final Fantasy V Advance - 32,000 / 157,000
7 NDS New SMB - 30,000 / 3,304,000
8 PS2 Dragon Ball Z Sparking Neo - 28,000 / 360,000
9 NDS More Brain Age - 22,000 / 3,336,000
10 NDS Animal Crossing Wild World - 20,000 / 3,349,000