It's a Pokemon follower title that had withstood tests of time. Million ltd I would say is a good possibility. Biggest q is whether there will be sales synergy or cannibalism between it and Pokemon. Over the long term one will likely become a great second title for the other.
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Media Create Sales: Week 20, 2012 (May 14 - May 20)
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It's a Pokemon follower title that had withstood tests of time. Million ltd I would say is a good possibility. Biggest q is whether there will be sales synergy or cannibalism between it and Pokemon. Over the long term one will likely become a great second title for the other.
Exterminieren
Banned
Famitsu software from my database. MC hardware. Using Famitsu quarters by calendar, not FY. Should give a rough approximation, though.
Code:
SW HW Tie Ratio
Q1-2011 788K 793K 0.99
Q2-2011 862K 365K 2.36
Q3-2011 943K 747K 1.26
Q4-2011 3779K 2179K 1.73
Q1-2012 3074K 1316K 2.34
Q2-2012* 1399K 555K 2.52* - Through May 13, 2012
Not a single quarter has it hit the tie ratio of DS over its first 14 months, but at least it's improving. 2012 is much better than 2011, which is something.
BishopLamont
Banned
This remake is equivalent to say FF7 remake, spin-off or not. The selling potential is huge.
It was one of the best spinoffs they ever made for it (IMO), and it brought different things to the table that Pokemon didn't at the time while still offering something that felt familiar.
A very enjoyable game.
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (6 weeks) - 1,400,000
[PSV] Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny (3 weeks) - 69,000
[PSV] Persona 4: Golden (3 weeks) - 65,000
[PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw (4 weeks) - 35,000
[NDS] Pokemon Black 2 / White 2 (3 weeks) - 3,600,000
[PS3] Atelier Ayesha (1 week) - 96,000
[3DS] Culdcept (1 week) - 10,000
SpaceDrake
Member
I'm actually going to quote this again to ask... this is really accurate? Because I hadn't realized it when posting last night, but if it is, this suggests an attach rate of slightly less than 1, which I've never heard of before. So either digital is becoming a shockingly big thing for the Vita in Japan, or... well, things look rather bleak.
I have to think every Vita owner's purchased at least one or two games for the damn thing, though. That software number just seems ludicrously low compared to the number of units out there.
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (5 weeks) - 650,000
[PSV] Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny (4 weeks) - 38,000
[PSV] Persona 4: Golden (3 weeks) - 125,000
[PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw (3 weeks) - 35,000
[NDS] Pokemon Black 2 / White 2 (2 weeks) - 2,250,000
[PS3] Atelier Ayesha (1 week) - 85,000
[3DS] Culdcept (1 week) - 45,000
Attach rates are always low at the beginning. Conditions of used games in Japan are also so good that it's not uncommon for people to buy only used games w/ a system purchase.
[PSV] Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny (4 weeks) - 38,000
[PSV] Persona 4: Golden (3 weeks) - 125,000
[PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw (3 weeks) - 35,000
[NDS] Pokemon Black 2 / White 2 (2 weeks) - 2,250,000
[PS3] Atelier Ayesha (1 week) - 85,000
[3DS] Culdcept (1 week) - 45,000
Attach rates are always low at the beginning. Conditions of used games in Japan are also so good that it's not uncommon for people to buy only used games w/ a system purchase.
That is based on data publicly available from Famitsu and does not include all software sales for the Vita or the PSP (not to mention zero digital sales).
The real tie ratio probably isn't any better, over 1 and below 2 I guess, given even the 3DS is barely above 2.
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FGH 2012 sample: http://www.f-ism.net/fgh/fgh2012_sample.pdf
It has some sell-through for Rhythm Heaven Wii and Tales of Xillia.
And from the genre breakdown percentages 2011 total software was ~51.34 million (+/- 56k).
creamsugar
Member
Games on Nintendo platform April sales Top 20
Media Create
4/2 ~ 4/29
Source: Nintendo Dream July issue
Apr / LTD till Apr
*: Include limit edition and/or bundle edition
01. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening (Nintendo) 302,913 / 302,913
02. [Wii] Mario Party 9 (Nintendo) 152,883 / 152,883
03. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D* (Square Enix) 85,374 / 298,953
04. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land* (Nintendo) 70,303 / 1,534,999
05. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising (Nintendo) 63,390 / 243,095
06. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G* (Capcom) 58,464 / 1,416,873
07. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) 50,793 / 1,672,424
08. [DS] Pokemon Conquest (Pokemon) 41,390 / 308,998
09. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Nintendo) 30,923 / 143,526
10. [3DS] Code of Princess (Agatsuma) 21,096 / 21,096
11. [Wii] Wii Sports Resort* (Nintendo) 19,859 / 925,498
12. [3DS] Harvest Moon: The Land of Origin (Marvelous AQL) 17,976 / 172,739
13. [Wii] Wii Party* (Nintendo) 16,457 / 2,336,973
14. [Wii] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) 15,604 / 3,554,416
15. [3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs. (Koei Tecmo) 15,578 / 15,578
16. [3DS] Hatsune Miku and Future Stars: Project Mira* (Sega) 13,262 / 137,880
17. [3DS] nintendogs＋cats (Nintendo) 13,103 / 541,829
18. [3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi (NBGI) 12,788 / 12,788
19. [DS] Detective Conan: Prelude from the Past (NBGI) 11,903 / 11,903
20. [Wii] Go Vacation (NBGI) 11,726 / 265,085
Media Create
4/2 ~ 4/29
Source: Nintendo Dream July issue
Apr / LTD till Apr
*: Include limit edition and/or bundle edition
01. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening (Nintendo) 302,913 / 302,913
02. [Wii] Mario Party 9 (Nintendo) 152,883 / 152,883
03. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D* (Square Enix) 85,374 / 298,953
04. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land* (Nintendo) 70,303 / 1,534,999
05. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising (Nintendo) 63,390 / 243,095
06. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G* (Capcom) 58,464 / 1,416,873
07. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 (Nintendo) 50,793 / 1,672,424
08. [DS] Pokemon Conquest (Pokemon) 41,390 / 308,998
09. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games (Nintendo) 30,923 / 143,526
10. [3DS] Code of Princess (Agatsuma) 21,096 / 21,096
11. [Wii] Wii Sports Resort* (Nintendo) 19,859 / 925,498
12. [3DS] Harvest Moon: The Land of Origin (Marvelous AQL) 17,976 / 172,739
13. [Wii] Wii Party* (Nintendo) 16,457 / 2,336,973
14. [Wii] Mario Kart Wii (Nintendo) 15,604 / 3,554,416
15. [3DS] Dynasty Warriors Vs. (Koei Tecmo) 15,578 / 15,578
16. [3DS] Hatsune Miku and Future Stars: Project Mira* (Sega) 13,262 / 137,880
17. [3DS] nintendogs＋cats (Nintendo) 13,103 / 541,829
18. [3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi (NBGI) 12,788 / 12,788
19. [DS] Detective Conan: Prelude from the Past (NBGI) 11,903 / 11,903
20. [Wii] Go Vacation (NBGI) 11,726 / 265,085
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Errr... this doesn't sound right. But still, nice to see a game a lot of people really want.
A bit off topic, but is there a good chance of this coming outside of Japan?
BishopLamont
Banned
Other than the other DQM games, there's nothing else to really compare it to. The only difference between FF7 and this game is that one is a spin-off and the others not, but since the original sold so much, the fact that its a spinoff doesn't really hamper its selling potential.Errr... this doesn't sound right. But still, nice to see a game a lot of people really want.
A bit off topic, but is there a good chance of this coming outside of Japan?
Content will be pretty extensive from what I've read. New areas and new stories of course. Has all the original monsters, plus all the monsters from Joker 2 Pro, plus some new ones from DQX. Gameplay system is based on Joker 2 with some new changes. It's certainly not a simple remake.
Yeah, as others said, digital isn't represented here... And without it, it really looks bleak. I really wonder what the numbers are, but sadly we'll probably never know them.
electroplankton
Banned
Sales stayd nicely in Aprile, which was not so obvious given the fact that it's an otaku-oriented title, so usually highly front-loaded.
Bruno MB
Member
What are the expectations for Dragon's Dogma?
I think it will likely open higher than White Knight Chronicles (203,033), no other console new rpg IP has had a biggest opening in this generation. If we go back to the PS2 era, only Rogue Galaxy (213,289) and Kingdom Hearts (411,492) had better numbers than White Knight Chronicles. So it won't be too hard for Dragon's Dogma to become the best-selling console new rpg IP debut since 2002.
Best-selling console new rpg IPs of this generation (first week sales):
[PS3] White Knight Chronicles - 203,033
[PS3-360] Resonance of Fate - 155,013
[Wii] The Last Story - 109,704
[360] The Last Remnant - 102,107
[360] Infinite Undiscovery - 86,708
[360] Blue Dragon - 82,286
[Wii] Xenoblade - 79,163
[PS3] Valkyria Chronicles --- 77,694
Edit: Added The Last Remnant (thanks gogogow)
I think it will likely open higher than White Knight Chronicles (203,033), no other console new rpg IP has had a biggest opening in this generation. If we go back to the PS2 era, only Rogue Galaxy (213,289) and Kingdom Hearts (411,492) had better numbers than White Knight Chronicles. So it won't be too hard for Dragon's Dogma to become the best-selling console new rpg IP debut since 2002.
Best-selling console new rpg IPs of this generation (first week sales):
[PS3] White Knight Chronicles - 203,033
[PS3-360] Resonance of Fate - 155,013
[Wii] The Last Story - 109,704
[360] The Last Remnant - 102,107
[360] Infinite Undiscovery - 86,708
[360] Blue Dragon - 82,286
[Wii] Xenoblade - 79,163
[PS3] Valkyria Chronicles --- 77,694
Edit: Added The Last Remnant (thanks gogogow)
catashtrophe
Member
Dark Souls opened higher
01./00. [PS3] Dark Souls <RPG> (From Software) {2011.09.22} (¥7.800) - 279.567 / NEW <90,09%>
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=446687
Calling Dark Souls a new IP is kinda stretching it. Of course, technically it is, but everyone and his dog knew that it's the (spiritual) sequel to Demon's Souls. Actually, if you don't study the circumstances surrounding the game closely, you almost definitely don't know that Dark Souls is not the official sequel to Demon's Souls.
Bruno MB
Member
I guess you can be technically right, it is debatable. I saw Dark Souls as a sequel of Demon's Souls but their developers said that it wasn't a sequel to Demon's Souls, but rather a spiritual successor.
By the way, Famitsu has it quite lower than Media Create (228,872) that was a huge discrepancy. Anyway they both have a similar LTD sales figure (Famitsu 334,302, Media Create 353,549).
[360] The Last Remnant - 102.107
and there's Lost Odyssey, but probably not worth mentioning.
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (5 weeks) - 915.000
[PSV] Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny (4 weeks) - 50.000
[PSV] Persona 4: Golden (3 weeks) - 125.000
[PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw (3 weeks) - 45.000
[NDS] Pokemon Black 2 / White 2 (2 weeks) - 3.000.000
[PS3] Atelier Ayesha (1 week) - 75.000
[3DS] Culdcept (1 week) - 28.000
Also, seeing the Top 1000:
What are the odds of DKCR surpassing the 1 million mark?? It's pretty close, and last year it sold around 300k units.
[PSV] Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny (4 weeks) - 50.000
[PSV] Persona 4: Golden (3 weeks) - 125.000
[PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw (3 weeks) - 45.000
[NDS] Pokemon Black 2 / White 2 (2 weeks) - 3.000.000
[PS3] Atelier Ayesha (1 week) - 75.000
[3DS] Culdcept (1 week) - 28.000
Also, seeing the Top 1000:
What are the odds of DKCR surpassing the 1 million mark?? It's pretty close, and last year it sold around 300k units.
Bruno MB
Member
Practically nil since Nintendo will probably not ship more copies.
According to Famitsu it only sold 23,523 units in the second-half of 2011, whereas in the first-half of the year it sold 368,529.
Very slim, sales have really slowed down to almost nothing.
Predict the LTD as of July 1st for these titles:
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (5 weeks) - 850K
[PSV] Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny (4 weeks) - 35K
[PSV] Persona 4: Golden (3 weeks) - 100K
[PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw (3 weeks) - 75K
[NDS] Pokemon Black 2 / White 2 (2 weeks) - 3400K
[PS3] Atelier Ayesha (1 week) - 100K
[3DS] Culdcept (1 week) - 35K
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (5 weeks) - 850K
[PSV] Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny (4 weeks) - 35K
[PSV] Persona 4: Golden (3 weeks) - 100K
[PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw (3 weeks) - 75K
[NDS] Pokemon Black 2 / White 2 (2 weeks) - 3400K
[PS3] Atelier Ayesha (1 week) - 100K
[3DS] Culdcept (1 week) - 35K
We may get an idea of how digital sales affect retail when 3DS games start appearing on the eShop. Speaking of which, did anyone ever try to analyze how PSN affected retail PSP software sales?Yeah, as others said, digital isn't represented here... And without it, it really looks bleak. I really wonder what the numbers are, but sadly we'll probably never know them.
Yes, they can be modified until the deadline.
Exterminieren
Banned
Will Nintendo's plan of downloadable titles being bought through retail be counted into Media Create, do we think?
Prediction League LTD as of July 1st:
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (5 weeks) - 888,888
[PSV] Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny (4 weeks) - 44,444
[PSV] Persona 4: Golden (3 weeks) - 111,111
[PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw (3 weeks) - 55,555
[NDS] Pokemon Black 2 / White 2 (2 weeks) - 2,666,666
[PS3] Atelier Ayesha (1 week) - 88,888
[3DS] Culdcept (1 week) - 33,333
[3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D (5 weeks) - 888,888
[PSV] Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny (4 weeks) - 44,444
[PSV] Persona 4: Golden (3 weeks) - 111,111
[PS3] Lollipop Chainsaw (3 weeks) - 55,555
[NDS] Pokemon Black 2 / White 2 (2 weeks) - 2,666,666
[PS3] Atelier Ayesha (1 week) - 88,888
[3DS] Culdcept (1 week) - 33,333
Is Gundam Seed Battle Destiny a very low key title? A lot of people(myself included but I pretty much just put a random number) have it doing barely better or worse than Ciel No Surge... I know Gundam doesn't always mean good sales but I remember people talking about it like it was a bigger deal.
I can see them mentioning titles that do really well to beef up their reports.
Awesome, will definitely buy if localized.
electroplankton
Banned
No Famitsu chart yet?
edit: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201205/30015471.html
5/21 - 5/27 2012
1. [PS3] Dragon's Dogma
2. [3DS] Mario Tennis Open
3. [PSP] Uta no * Prince-Sama
4. [360] Dragon's Dogma
5. [WII] Mario Party 9
6. [PS3] Idolm@ster G4U
7. [PSP] 十三支演義 〜偃月三国伝〜
8. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G
9. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening
10. [PS3] Steins;gate
edit: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201205/30015471.html
5/21 - 5/27 2012
1. [PS3] Dragon's Dogma
2. [3DS] Mario Tennis Open
3. [PSP] Uta no * Prince-Sama
4. [360] Dragon's Dogma
5. [WII] Mario Party 9
6. [PS3] Idolm@ster G4U
7. [PSP] 十三支演義 〜偃月三国伝〜
8. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G
9. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening
10. [PS3] Steins;gate
Famitsu Sales: Week 22, 2012 (May 21 - May 27)
01./00. [PS3] Dragons Dogma <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.05.24} (¥7.990)
02./00. [3DS] Mario Tennis Open <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.05.24} (¥4.800)
03./00. [PSP] Uta no Prince-Sama: Debut # <ACT> (Broccoli) {2012.05.24} (¥6.090)
04./00. [360] Dragons Dogma <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.05.24} (¥7.990)
05./03. [WII] Mario Party 9 <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.04.26} (¥5.800)
06./00. [PS3] The Idolmaster: Gravure For You! Vol.8 <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.05.24} (¥9.980)
07./00. [PSP] Jyuzaengi: Engetsu Sangokuden # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2012.05.24} (¥6.090)
08./05. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
09./06. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800)
10./00. [PS3] Steins;Gate: Double Pack <ADV> (5pb.) {2012.05.24} (¥14.000)
01./00. [PS3] Dragons Dogma <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.05.24} (¥7.990)
02./00. [3DS] Mario Tennis Open <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.05.24} (¥4.800)
03./00. [PSP] Uta no Prince-Sama: Debut # <ACT> (Broccoli) {2012.05.24} (¥6.090)
04./00. [360] Dragons Dogma <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.05.24} (¥7.990)
05./03. [WII] Mario Party 9 <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.04.26} (¥5.800)
06./00. [PS3] The Idolmaster: Gravure For You! Vol.8 <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.05.24} (¥9.980)
07./00. [PSP] Jyuzaengi: Engetsu Sangokuden # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2012.05.24} (¥6.090)
08./05. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800)
09./06. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800)
10./00. [PS3] Steins;Gate: Double Pack <ADV> (5pb.) {2012.05.24} (¥14.000)
michaelius
Banned
Yes and ?
It's holding *remarkably* well, I thought with so many new games this week it'd be out for sure.
Edit: Although these are Famitsu numbers, and they've deviated a bit from MC, better not make too many assumptions just yet.
What's the longest an FE has remained in the top ten for? In fact, other than the big three, I can't think of any other game that's hung around for quite so long in a fair while - maybe Revelations?
The last game to spend 6 consecutive weeks in the top 10 was IEGo Shine / Dark (7 in fact). And the last non combined is MH3G, there since it has been released -- 25 weeks.
electroplankton
Banned
Wow, that would be amazing! Brava Capcom!
RurouniZel
Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Or the top couple are really high and the rest are super low. :-/
Closer to 16-18k actually (G4U).