Eh, I don't think that's quite true. SDOJ managed to sell about 14k on 360 so far, which is "alright".
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Media Create Sales: Week 30, 2013 (Jul 22 - Jul 28)
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Eh, I don't think that's quite true. SDOJ managed to sell about 14k on 360 so far, which is "alright".
Yeah, it must have sold less than 3000, which is horrific. It sold at least 14000 on the X360, iirc.
SCE is also terrible at selling their own games in Japan when most publishers do just fine on Sony systems.
Bruno MB
Member
With the exception of Animal Crossing: New Leaf due to supply issues, download cards sales on Nintendo systems have been really marginal. Even Pokemon Scramble U which is a download-only card game sold very few units.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
More like Vanillaware makes a damn good brawler.
Law Abiding Stranger
Banned
Does anyone know how Demon's Souls and Dark Souls sold in Japan?
Yup that was my guess, it's just interesting that with download cards being accounted for, sales would double this many months after Animal Crossing's debut.
The difference is that this entry will need the help of most of the retailers (dropping the price) to reach that number.
Magicpaint
Member
There was a lot of momentum leading to its release with the re-releases of all the previous AA games. It was bound to do well. This is why AA5 matching it somewhat surprises me, as it didn't have that kind of build up, but we'll see if it can also match the legs of AA4.
I think it's like 170K for Demon's Souls and 330K for Dark Souls (I may be off a little bit).
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
definitely
Magicpaint
Member
Has that happened yet? I imagine this will be like a Zelda: ST/Ninokuni DS situation where the help of bomba bins will eventually make the LTD look good. Probably won't get a second shipment though
I think that's about right for the vanilla SKUs.
Law Abiding Stranger
Banned
I see, thanks.
I guess I overestimated the influence of Berserk on the media and audience.
Bruno MB
Member
Has that happened yet? I imagine this will be like a Zelda: ST/Ninokuni DS situation where the help of bomba bins will eventually make the LTD look good. Probably won't get a second shipment though
Mockingbird
Member
The "beginning" is usually also the "end" for Level-5 sales in general.
Their products suck, and no one gives a fuck anymore. The only people even buying their stuff anymore are kids who don't know any better, and even those numbers are drastically reduced. It's over for Hino's scam empire really.
Been out of the loop for a while. What did level 5 do?
I'm pretty sure he was asking if it has already happened to Mario & Luigi rpg 4
Bruno MB
Member
I know, I just felt like posting this amusing picture xD
Has that happened yet? I imagine this will be like a Zelda: ST/Ninokuni DS situation where the help of bomba bins will eventually make the LTD look good. Probably won't get a second shipment though
Probably retailers will wait until obon is finished. On Obon some sales improves (August 13-15th). That way they can sell the maximum of copies at full price. Then, bomba bins.
Is it already at the bargain bin? No.
Are retailers slashing price deeper than usual? Yes.
That's miles away from what you said before.
With the save transfer tool available, wonder how many Animal Crossing owners with long-term commitment to the game are rebuying the game digitally, transferring their save, and then selling the cartridge?
That's an interesting hypothesis. It would explain some of those sales...
It could also be some kind of promo on download cards too.
Some updates on Sega in Japan and PSO2 on Vita:
They put up a trailer for more updates for PSO2, so it seems that is still getting heavily supported as well.
Source: http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/197354/Sega_reports_profits_up_400_percent_digital_delivers.phpGamasutra said:
They put up a trailer for more updates for PSO2, so it seems that is still getting heavily supported as well.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Phantasy Star Portable 3 if it happens, is definitely vita bound right?
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Sure, but why would it happen when PSO2 largely fills the niche that the PSPo series once occupied?
StreetsAhead
Member
You know many people, including me, still take offense to the word 'jap', especially non-capitalized.
As for your premise, considering that the 3DS has multiple 3rd party games over 500K and the Vita is yet to have any (as far as I know, please correct me), coupled with the fact that Tokiden, Soul Sacrifice, and Dragon's Crown all do cater to similar, if not the same, markets, I think it's too early to say it's smarter to develop a game on the Vita, unless it is targeting the same general market.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
So happy that GS5 sold as well as GS4 with such a huge gulf between releases.
I am hoping that we get a new trilogy for the 3DS, GS5,6,7. Please make it happen!! I don't want gigantic droughts like we had after Ace Attorney 4
I am hoping that we get a new trilogy for the 3DS, GS5,6,7. Please make it happen!! I don't want gigantic droughts like we had after Ace Attorney 4
DarkLordMalik
Member
I am surprised that Dragon's Crown on VITA managed to sell close to PS3 version
We are talking about a userbase of 10 million vs a userbase of 1.6 million. In any case, i am happy for Vanillaware
And nice debut for AA5, i certainly wasn't expecting it to match AA4. Capcom is in deep sh*t these days so they need all the help they can get.
We are talking about a userbase of 10 million vs a userbase of 1.6 million. In any case, i am happy for Vanillaware
And nice debut for AA5, i certainly wasn't expecting it to match AA4. Capcom is in deep sh*t these days so they need all the help they can get.
pieatorium
Member
I don't think dragons crown targets the same market as hunting games and you also left out the current (soon to be overtaken) 2 best selling vita games in miku and persona which also each target different genres.
His post was terribly worded for what he was trying to say though
Sammy Samusu
Member
Probably, not definitely.
PS is not a million seller, it's just as big as GE, so it shouldn't have a problem hitting the 500k target on Vita.
Congratulations to hiska-kun for winning by both units and percents for the 2nd month in a row!!
That Gaf guy was really off this month with a couple of exceptions.
Code:
BY UNITS BY PERCENTAGE
1 324,306 hiska-kun 1 264.3% hiska-kun
2 365,346 Fisico 2 265.6% Fisico
3 370,306 schuelma 3 287.9% Bruno MB
4 392,653 Road 4 292.3% Road
5 431,980 Bruno MB 5 298.8% Zeer0id
6 453,944 metalslimer 6 309.1% MasterSheen
7 460,034 MasterSheen 7 311.3% schuelma
8 467,306 DrWong 8 314.7% ULTROS!
9 474,618 ULTROS! 9 318.8% Frodo
10 485,649 Chris1964 10 322.2% metalslimer
11 496,444 Zeer0id 11 325.8% darkside31337
12 496,480 Frodo 12 334.3% DrWong
13 511,278 The_lascar 13 350.3% michaelius
14 515,306 Gianni Merryman 14 354.8% Chris1964
15 530,290 L Thammy 15 378.1% Gianni Merryman
16 535,618 michaelius 16 385.9% L Thammy
17 539,116 darkside31337 17 395.6% lunchwithyuzo
18 559,320 lunchwithyuzo 18 402.5% The_lascar
19 594,480 Exterminieren 19 407.4% Foshy
20 601,618 Foshy 20 418.6% Exterminieren
21 654,618 Coxy 21 420.5% Coxy
22 657,306 Yeshua 22 473.0% Jamix012
23 690,306 Jamix012 23 491.4% Yeshua
Famitsu Bruno MB Jamix012 Foshy Gianni Me Extermini lunchwith darkside3 Coxy MasterShe L Thammy DrWong Zeer0id michaeliu Frodo Fisico Yeshua Chris1964 metalslim ULTROS! schuelma Road hiska-kun The_lascar
[WIU] Hardware 52,069 61000 65000 49000 80000 75000 66666 37000 35000 60000 33671 90000 45000 44000 57000 50000 100000 56789 49500 30000 68000 66666 71000 70000
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 4 220,856 80000 65000 81000 75000 67000 77777 60000 80000 100000 70000 80000 85000 60000 95000 75000 70000 123456 108000 100000 135000 88888 155000 100000
[3DS] Youkai Watch 101,136 77500 52000 73000 75000 95000 111111 57500 60000 115000 62500 100000 90000 50000 87000 105000 80000 67890 94000 40000 60000 111111 88000 150000
[WIU] Pikmin 3 149,087 145000 180000 105000 183000 74000 99999 85000 100000 190000 168750 160000 150000 125000 130000 140000 250000 210987 159000 100000 185000 111111 170000 250000
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team 156,446 255000 320000 339000 302000 325000 333333 235000 350000 200000 285000 275000 300000 220000 290000 210000 270000 234567 275000 250000 170000 222222 209000 250000
[3DS] LBX W Super Custom 38,499 58000 90000 77000 62000 70000 88888 38000 60000 65000 66267 55000 50000 60000 60000 75000 125000 98765 90000 40000 85000 66666 69000 75000
[3DS] Phoenix Wright 5 241,878 190000 130000 173000 202000 185000 222222 170000 170000 160000 220000 195000 160000 140000 150000 200000 210000 210987 200000 180000 220000 222222 179000 300000
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown 184,537 100000 70000 88000 112000 105000 88888 80000 65000 60000 60000 90000 80000 80000 99000 112000 80000 65432 75000 120000 75000 99999 125000 150000
UNIT DIFF 431980 690306 601618 515306 594480 559320 539116 654618 460034 530290 467306 496444 535618 496480 365346 657306 485649 453944 474618 370306 392653 324306 511278
PERCENTAGE DIFF 287.9% 473.0% 407.4% 378.1% 418.6% 395.6% 325.8% 420.5% 309.1% 385.9% 334.3% 298.8% 350.3% 318.8% 265.6% 491.4% 354.8% 322.2% 314.7% 311.3% 292.3% 264.3% 402.5%
Famitsu GAF-AVG MIN MAX OVER UNDER CLOSEST BY
[WIU] Hardware 52,069 59,143 30,000 100,000 61% 39% 50,000 Fisico
[PS3+360] Earth Defense Force 4 220,856 88,310 60,000 155,000 0% 100% 155,000 hiska-kun
[3DS] Youkai Watch 101,136 82,679 40,000 150,000 22% 78% 100,000 DrWong
[WIU] Pikmin 3 149,087 150,950 74,000 250,000 52% 48% 150,000 Zeer0id
[3DS] Mario & Luigi Dream Team 156,446 266,092 170,000 350,000 100% 0% 170,000 schuelma
[3DS] LBX W Super Custom 38,499 70,634 38,000 125,000 96% 4% 38,000 darkside31337
[3DS] Phoenix Wright 5 241,878 190,845 130,000 300,000 4% 96% 222,222 lunchwithyuzo
[PS3+PSV] Dragon's Crown 184,537 90,449 60,000 150,000 0% 100% 150,000 The_lascarThat Gaf guy was really off this month with a couple of exceptions.
metalslimer
Member
Fuck you M&L and Dragon's Crown =( I was almost tempted to go higher on M&l
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
I was the only one even close on Little Battlers. I have to thank duckroll for spreading me his justifiable hatred and contempt for Level 5 over these past several years, his wisdom led to my accurate prediction.
metalslimer
Member
And yet the hate destroyed your youkai watch prediction lol
Not really. Given all the adverts I have seen for it on Fuji TV recently and the localisation costs 18K is atrocious. I can't imagine Nintendo being happy with that.
DarkLordMalik
Member
GAF was never optimistic about Dragon's Crown, lol.
That Gaf guy was really off this month with a couple of exceptions.
StreetsAhead
Member
Considering it's sell through rate according to Famitsu (60%~80%), they can't have been expecting much more for its first week.
The last (and only other Lego game in Japan that I've heard of) had a LTD of 20K on the PS2.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
Yea and they could reuse the same exact engine/assets as PSO2 vita.
Isn't that game online only? Not sure why a online only game on a handheld where people actually play them outside of the house would feel that niche. Plus free money, they could reuse the same exact engine/assets as PSO2 vita.
But Pikmin had a difference of almost 10k between the trackers. That's a big difference considering that Lego had no such discrepance at all!
pieatorium
Member
EDF had about 11k difference (once you add up the skus on famitsu). The higher the numbers the more error is likely.
I've heard first hand that this is very much the case. Vita has proven itself as a sustainable platform and with lower entry costs than 3DS, it is a much more viable option for small to mid-size devs. Vita is definitely alive and well in Japan.
Fair enough. In that case I am surprised Nintendo have been pushing it as much as they have.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Why are you surprised, lol. It's not like they have any games for Wii U so they gotta focus on what they have. They should've given Wonderful 101 more exposure though. Poor Kamiya needs more recognition.
Yeah, TW101 has a really fancy website, and it's been getting plenty of news updates recently both from Nintendo's and Platinum's ends, but while that's all fine and dandy for getting people excited, it's not informing people it exists. :\