Media Create Sales: Week 34, 2014 (Aug 18 - Aug 24)

Jun 9, 2012
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I don't see why Sony would bother to cut the price of Vita right now. It's not like they are trying to compete with Nintendo. It would lose them more money as a decent sized price drop would probably get rid of a lot of the profit they are making off the system

I don't see why we even care about XBO. It will be below 2k in about a month.
 
Jun 6, 2012
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Not sure what your asking here. Did you believe the Tales game for example was a great choice for making exclusive to move 360's in japan? You second question im not even sure where you got that from. Never said Xone was doing better with that.
Yes? Tales it a pretty big franchise as far as they go in Japan. The only franchises really significantly bigger at the time were owned by Square, Nintendo or called Monster Hunter. It's very possible Square weren't willing to have timed exclusivity of any of their major franchises and Monster Hunter may have been too much. Tales was pretty much likely the biggest franchise they were willing to fit the bill for.

Price compared with the other 2? I thought the kinectless version was around the same price.
Just talking about relative to it's competitors. As in, Xbox was the same price as it's competitors, Xbox 360 was cheaper than one of it's competitors and Xbox one is more expensive than both of its competitors. Those points were only comparing OG xbox to Xbone, there are a even more reasons it won't touch 360's userbase.
 
Aug 22, 2014
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Yes? Tales it a pretty big franchise as far as they go in Japan. The only franchises really significantly bigger at the time were owned by Square, Nintendo or called Monster Hunter. It's very possible Square weren't willing to have timed exclusivity of any of their major franchises and Monster Hunter may have been too much. Tales was pretty much likely the biggest franchise they were willing to fit the bill for.
I think you may be overhauling tales in Japan, but I could be wrong, anyone got Japanese game franchise sales in Japan?
 
Aug 22, 2014
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Yes? Tales it a pretty big franchise as far as they go in Japan. The only franchises really significantly bigger at the time were owned by Square, Nintendo or called Monster Hunter. It's very possible Square weren't willing to have timed exclusivity of any of their major franchises and Monster Hunter may have been too much. Tales was pretty much likely the biggest franchise they were willing to fit the bill for.



Just talking about relative to it's competitors. As in, Xbox was the same price as it's competitors, Xbox 360 was cheaper than one of it's competitors and Xbox one is more expensive than both of its competitors. Those points were only comparing OG xbox to Xbone, there are a even more reasons it won't touch 360's userbase.

Whats the answer to the question I asked? Not sure where this turned into a LTD subjects.
 
Jun 6, 2012
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I think you may be overhauling tales in Japan, but I could be wrong, anyone got Japanese game franchise sales in Japan?
There were some handheld franchises (Layton, Inazuma) that were pretty big for a while, but as I said, there really weren't (aren't?) many console franchises bigger than Tales that weren't Square/Nintendo/Monster hunter. I'll try and find you some numbers...

Edit: You know what, there's really no point to this discussion right now. Wait till next week to find out.
Regarding Tales. I'll try and find you some numbers.

Edit edit: I guess Musou was pretty big around the PS2 era so that could've been a worthwhile "moneyhat" maybe.
 

Chris1964

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Dec 17, 2008
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No how can you say they tried when they grabbed franchises and games that had no console moving power even when on the PS3 with few exceptions? Some games were already on ps3, again, some, some of you think I said all.

Some of the franchises that were on 360 (tales for example) were already niche games. I dont think the 360 was trying in Japan, more likely needing up their library in the west. Most of the Japan exclusive exclusive games barely pushed a bed sheet over a agreed much less big deals.

Im not saying those games are not important just saying those games had no moving power even if the roles were reversed. With a few exceptions of course.
I believe even diehard Xbox fanboys have accepted XB1 fate in Japan. For some reason you want to believe the opposite and ignore all indications and data. If you are not trolling it's good to believe in miracles but the reality is much different.
 
Aug 22, 2014
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There were some handheld franchises (Layton, Inazuma) that were pretty big for a while, but as I said, there really weren't (aren't?) many console franchises bigger than Tales that weren't Square/Nintendo/Monster hunter. I'll try and find you some numbers...

Edit: You know what, there's really no point to this discussion right now. Wait till next week to find out.
Regarding Tales. I'll try and find you some numbers.
The point of discussion was if the 360 was actually trying to get Japan. All I know is that unless there are bombs at THE Xone will be a fire bomb around end of Sept. Or something else.
 
May 6, 2012
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Aug 22, 2014
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I believe even diehard Xbox fanboys have accepted XB1 fate in Japan. For some reason you want to believe the opposite and ignore all indications and data. If you are not trolling it's good to believe in miracles but the reality is much different.
I have not one time talked about xbox one sales outside of launch and I have said I expected it to drop. I have no idea why people believe I am saying its going to be a big hit.
 
Mar 19, 2009
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Toronto, Canada
Microsoft enlisted Hironobu Sakaguchi, the creator of Final Fantasy, and Akira Toriyama, the artist behind Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest, to create Blue Dragon for Xbox 360. To build the property up, Microsoft worked with other partners. This meant a TV anime that ran for two years, two separate manga series, merchandise lines and eventual DS spinoffs.

Yes, Microsoft tried to get Japan interested in Xbox 360. They weren't doing great, but they were growing in that region. Then they stopped trying. Now Xbox One will follow the first Xbox's performance in Japan.
 
Aug 22, 2014
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Microsoft enlisted Hironobu Sakaguchi, the creator of Final Fantasy, and Akira Toriyama, the artist behind Dragon Ball and Dragon Quest, to create Blue Dragon for Xbox 360. To build the property up, Microsoft worked with other partners. This meant a TV anime that ran for two years, two separate manga series, merchandise lines and eventual DS spinoffs.

Yes, Microsoft tried to get Japan interested in Xbox 360. They weren't doing great, but they were growing in that region. Then they stopped trying. Now Xbox One will follow the first Xbox's performance in Japan.
You mean the same Blue Dragon that barely got pushed outside Japan and had iits 2 nintendo es sequel NO ONE really knew about?
 
Aug 22, 2014
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I'm not sure how the info you're getting out of this is "oh it's not that big" when it's literally one of the biggest 3rd party brands on home consoles behind FF/RE/MGS/GTA but ok. Seems like your mind is made up already.
Its not that big in relation to other franchises such as Yakuza etc. And not just square and such as the other poster above said. You make not that big sound like I said it was bad hold on now, thats not what I meant.
 
Aug 22, 2014
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Ok, so let me just say I know jack about Japanese sales and we will see how much the Xbox does in the first 2 weeks. Again, I never said it was going to be a hit but I think it will have a "passable launch" to say the least.

Unless they drop bombs no ONE would ever think possible at tgs. Which I doubt.
 
Jul 28, 2012
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Ok, so let me just say I know jack about Japanese sales and we will see how much the Xbox does in the first 2 weeks. Again, I never said it was going to be a hit but I think it will have a "passable launch" to say the least.

Unless they drop bombs no ONE would ever think possible at tgs. Which I doubt.
passable launch = ???

give us numbers bearing in mind you're looking at an LTD of <800k
 
Jun 9, 2012
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Ok, so let me just say I know jack about Japanese sales and we will see how much the Xbox does in the first 2 weeks. Again, I never said it was going to be a hit but I think it will have a "passable launch" to say the least.

Unless they drop bombs no ONE would ever think possible at tgs. Which I doubt.
Then why are you even making this argument? Just to be contrarian?
 
Aug 22, 2014
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Toemon what are you doing? What are you arguing? Please don't tell me you're arguing that XB1 will do well in Japan. It would be lucky to reach half of 360's LTD.

I still dont see why people think this, I said multiple times I think XO will drop more than lead in pudding. Never said they were going to have a great LTD or anything.
 
Jul 5, 2011
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The 360 trying in Japan argument is unrelated to the Xboxone maybe selling 90k or so in the first 10 or so days.
What is a passable launch and how will Microsoft achieve this relative to their past Japanese launch efforts?

Don't answer my question with a question either, that's common deflection.
 
Mar 19, 2009
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You mean the same Blue Dragon that barely got pushed outside Japan and had iits 2 nintendo es sequel NO ONE really knew about?
Plenty of high profile Japanese games are stealth launched over here. That doesn't mean they're not high profile games in Japan. You called Yakuza a big series before. Those games don't get localized anymore and when they did, after the first, they were all sub-only. AFAIK they never had any kind of TV ad presence. I know Blue Dragon did. The anime eventually surfaced in NA too.
 
Mar 9, 2012
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Tsutaya's weekly report

- Toukiden is on top this week as it was expected. There's the impression it had a slow start, though. But Vita Hardware is in a good shape now, so legs are expected.
- Persona 4: Arena is second. These days fighting games are not selling well, so the fact that Persona is selling well is special.
- Super Robot Taisen OG Saga and specially Medarot 8 have been stock limited.

Next week:

- Dragon Quest X for 3DS is expected to top the charts. Pre-orders are favorable.
- The reputation for TitanFall was high and it's included as a download version with One, so it could promote a dash start.
- Pre-orders for Dead Rising 3 and Forza 5 are good.

http://mantan-web.jp/2014/09/02/20140902dog00m200053000c.html?mode=pc
 

Road

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PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014

[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 55,555
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 22,222
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 111,111
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 155,555
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 999,999
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 77,777
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 144,444
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 77,777
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 22,222

Then why are you even making this argument? Just to be contrarian?
There was a guy who used to defend Microsoft in these threads. I can't remember his name. Then he was either banned or gave up after it became clear the Xbox 360 wasn't going anywhere.

I guess this new guy is just looking to fill that spot or something, I don't know. It doesn't actually seem he is defending Microsoft, but at least we're talking about Xbox concerning the Japanese market, so that's a win?
 
Aug 25, 2010
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..eh, what the hell. I'm bored:

PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014

[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 35,000
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 23,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 120,000
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 135,000
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 850,000
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 65,000
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 135,000
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 65,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 30,000
 
Nov 19, 2007
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PA
PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014

[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 55,555
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 22,222
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 111,111
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 155,555
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 999,999
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 77,777
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 144,444
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 77,777
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 22,222



There was a guy who used to defend Microsoft in these threads. I can't remember his name. Then he was either banned or gave up after it became clear the Xbox 360 wasn't going anywhere.

I guess this new guy is just looking to fill that spot or something, I don't know. It doesn't actually seem he is defending Microsoft, but at least we're talking about Xbox concerning the Japanese market, so that's a win?
I think his name was Jimbo
 
Dec 4, 2012
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I think you guys got trolled by the contrarian junior lol. He got all of y'all Sales Age regulars and masters to respond to him and he hasn't even been 'round these parts before.

Personally, I'm expecting lukewarm numbers for the Xbone, but not as bad as others would have it.

PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014

[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 65,000
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 25,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 115,000
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 140,000
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 900,000
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 70,000
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 115,000
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 71,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 27,000
 
Jul 29, 2010
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Anyways, the XB1 will be irrelevant in Japan. Deleted my old post that I had written.

Tsutaya's weekly report

- Toukiden is on top this week as it was expected. There's the impression it had a slow start, though. But Vita Hardware is in a good shape now, so legs are expected.
- Persona 4: Arena is second. These days fighting games are not selling well, so the fact that Persona is selling well is special.
- Super Robot Taisen OG Saga and specially Medarot 8 have been stock limited.

Next week:

- Dragon Quest X for 3DS is expected to top the charts. Pre-orders are favorable.
- The reputation for TitanFall was high and it's included as a download version with One, so it could promote a dash start.
- Pre-orders for Dead Rising 3 and Forza 5 are good.

http://mantan-web.jp/2014/09/02/20140902dog00m200053000c.html?mode=pc
Sounds like lots of positives this week from Tsutaya =).
 
Jun 27, 2011
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Mpl, you asked in a previous thread and it wasn't then but HW is now in the Wii U eShop all time charts, at 20 behind Wii Party U, sans VC.

A mana game coming from Android? Hm interesting. Is it any good?
I liked it. It's a bitch to install and keep updated with the shitty android region lock though and the frame rate was bad as well on my full hd tablet. Will probably play it more on Vita.
 
Nov 20, 2013
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There
PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014

[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 31,000
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 14,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 100,000
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 80,000
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 800,000
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 50,000
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 125,000
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 85,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 25,000
 
Apr 22, 2007
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It really depends on your definition of well though. I'd say the Vita Warriors game have done pretty miserably, but are ok b/c they supplement the PS3 releases. Hyrule Warriors hasn't even hit 100K yet but has outsold all the Vita Warriors games (One Piece Pirate Warriors 2 Vita included).
According to expectations at least I'm guessing, since they keep coming, its already PS3/PS4 multiplatform, no reason not to add the Vita.
 
Okay I have Road to TGS ready, but I'm saving the actual post for the new thread that's out soon.

That said, here's a preview with the spreadsheet and stats so far: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-zF0jwT0Y1a3kcNbnRJYt323BgFtXwmAZHRF2vwzkZU/edit?usp=sharing

When this is done (Road to TGS as a whole) I'll try to roughly separate things out by sales tier so that it's a little more clear what the caliber of announcements is instead of just the volume.

3DS Retail: 10
3DS-Only Retail: 9
3DS eShop: 3

New 3DS: 1

Vita Retail: 15
Vita-Only Retail: 6
Vita PSN/F2P: 4

PS4 Retail: 19
PS4-Only Retail: 6
PS4 PSN/F2P: 4
PS4 Morpheus: 1

PS3 Retail: 12
Ps3-Only Retail: 1
PS3 PSN: 1

iOS: 20
Android: 17

XB1 Retail: 5
XB1 XBLM: 1

360 Retail: 1
360 XBLM: 1

Arcades: 1

Wii U: Um...
 
Oct 10, 2007
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Tsutaya's weekly report

- Toukiden is on top this week as it was expected. There's the impression it had a slow start, though. But Vita Hardware is in a good shape now, so legs are expected.
- Persona 4: Arena is second. These days fighting games are not selling well, so the fact that Persona is selling well is special.
- Super Robot Taisen OG Saga and specially Medarot 8 have been stock limited.

Next week:

- Dragon Quest X for 3DS is expected to top the charts. Pre-orders are favorable.
- The reputation for TitanFall was high and it's included as a download version with One, so it could promote a dash start.
- Pre-orders for Dead Rising 3 and Forza 5 are good.

http://mantan-web.jp/2014/09/02/20140902dog00m200053000c.html?mode=pc
This means YW2 won't be at n.1 for the consecutire 8th week :(
 
Mar 9, 2012
3,567
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445
Spain
PREDICTION LEAGUE SEPTEMBER 2014

[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 72,486
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 19,983
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 123,456
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 261,732
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 1,456,123
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 87,775
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 148,112
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 75,876
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 23,010
 
Jul 28, 2012
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0
Okay I have Road to TGS ready, but I'm saving the actual post for the new thread that's out soon.

That said, here's a preview with the spreadsheet and stats so far: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-zF0jwT0Y1a3kcNbnRJYt323BgFtXwmAZHRF2vwzkZU/edit?usp=sharing

When this is done (Road to TGS as a whole) I'll try to roughly separate things out by sales tier so that it's a little more clear what the caliber of announcements is instead of just the volume.

3DS Retail: 10
3DS-Only Retail: 9
3DS eShop: 3

New 3DS: 1

Vita Retail: 15
Vita-Only Retail: 6
Vita PSN/F2P: 4

PS4 Retail: 19
PS4-Only Retail: 6
PS4 PSN/F2P: 4
PS4 Morpheus: 1

PS3 Retail: 12
Ps3-Only Retail: 1
PS3 PSN: 1

iOS: 20
Android: 17

XB1 Retail: 5
XB1 XBLM: 1

360 Retail: 1
360 XBLM: 1

Arcades: 1

Wii U: Um...
Well I certainly did not expect PS4 to have the most retail titles. TGS has been surprisingly good for the PS4 (of course due to the conference).

New thread already? Aren't there going to more announcements coming up?
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Sep 2, 2011
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it's pretty safe that Xbone will bomb in Japan, but looking at previous consoles, it could be the one console with the smaller decrease compared to last gen
:p
 

XDDX

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Predictions:

[XBO] Hardware (25 days) - 60,000
[XBO] Dead Rising 3 (25 days) - 33,000
[3DS] Dragon Quest X (25 days) - 77,777
[PS4+PS3] Destiny (18 days) - 180,000
[3DS] Super Smash Bros. for 3DS (16 days) - 1,415,000
[WIU] Bayonetta 2 (9 days) - 72,000
[PSV+PS3] Sen no Kiseki II (4 days) - 127,000
[PSV] Danganronpa Another Episode (4 days) - 50,000
[WIU] Fatal Frame V (2 days) - 33,333