considering how in this gen we actually saw the big drop from last gen results not at launch but in the weekly average sales, it would be a clear message about Xbone Japanes destiny, I suppose.
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Media Create Sales: Week 35, 2014 (Aug 25 - Aug 31)
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considering how in this gen we actually saw the big drop from last gen results not at launch but in the weekly average sales, it would be a clear message about Xbone Japanes destiny, I suppose.
LOL that would be horrible.
Nightengale
Member
What do you mean by this?
Meant it as a joke, but that article costs ¥3,090
Sanma is a type of fish, right?
PS4 has Fez.
Fez is a game by Phil Fish.
PS4 sold 30k this week?
We got a Layton's Puzzle instead.
30k, this is kinda like the Sega Saturn launch in US.
''A man with access to early sales data is giving us a hint in regards to the new console that went on sale this week.
Can you figure out how much Xbox One sold in its first week in Japan based on a product page from Amazon?''
1st Course
Member
It's really interesting how pretty much every single system released in recent years seen this pattern.
3DS, PSV, WIU, PS4 all had strong start but sales completely collapsed few weeks after launch. It wasn't like this last gen, even the struggling PS3 took months till it dropped bellow 10k.
http://hiroba.dqx.jp/sc/news/detail/eaa32c96f620053cf442ad32258076b9/
I fucking called it. The DQX producer confirms that they actually stopped shipments for DQX 3DS after the server problems came to light, because the congestion on the cloud servers were bad and they wanted to give priority to those who bought the game to be able to play it without the problem getting worse. They've monitored the situation and there will be a small shipment this Thursday. They plan on resuming shipments regularly if there are no severe issues.
I fucking called it. The DQX producer confirms that they actually stopped shipments for DQX 3DS after the server problems came to light, because the congestion on the cloud servers were bad and they wanted to give priority to those who bought the game to be able to play it without the problem getting worse. They've monitored the situation and there will be a small shipment this Thursday. They plan on resuming shipments regularly if there are no severe issues.
Herb Alpert
Banned
power of the cloud needs more power
I read the summary at some other sites too. Horii said DQ11 is now in development so they want ppl to play DQ Heroes and get hyped for DQ11. While it doesn't guarantee anything I now think there's a little chance DQ11 comes to PS platforms.
And as for DQ10 for 3DS, SE admitted they've halted the shipment because their cloud server can't keep up. They'll do a little more shipment later this week.
Edit: Beaten T_T
That's actually a sensible decision. Surprising, coming from SE.
michaelius
Banned
That's because incompetent managment of their studios completly underestimates buying power of early adopters when new machine is released and they are one-two years behind with proper support.
Was the game really THAT successful? Then again, there's also the 3DS XL promotion: I wouldn't be surprised if the problem came from those users.
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Does that mean they stopped downloads for the promotion too?
I think most people agreed that DQXI would appear on PS4 at one point. This further confirms it.
Now, it remains to be seen wheher it'll be an exclusive or not. They built a fanbase on the 3DS, so I doubt they're gonna throw that under the bus... but a PS4/3DS multiplat sounds a bit... extreme (I know Squeenix said they wanted to go multiplat for the DQ series, but...).
I doubt it's a PS4 exclusive, because building a fanbase with a spin-off game that got very little of what made DQ successful in the first place is a bit... strange.
About XB1... not really surprised at the lack of Famitsu numbers. No way Microsoft was going to parade with such horrid numbers, and the launch probably wasn't a big deal enough for Famitsu to have a special report.
Kresnik258
Member
Mainline Dragon Quest entries are regularly 4m+ in Japan though, right? It's going to be quite some time until PS4 passes that number, and even then, it's not going to have 100% attach rate.
I don't envisage any situation where it's PS4 exclusive.
I actually think what happened with NiNoKuni is a great example of PS4/3DS could work. Not quite the same game but close enough, worked well on both. Bulk of the sales on the handheld but a lot more western potential on the home console.
Zekra Dezivad
Member
If it's already in the works maybe they can manage to release in 2016.
PS4, PS3 and a different version for 3DS
metalslimer
Member
I would expect the 3DS version to come out first if there are multiple versions/parts to DQ11.
I don't get this at all. How is this a reasonable comment when talking about DQXI? What is "close enough"? They're absolutely not the same game at all. It's two completely different games based on a basic story premise. The graphic assets are completely different, the script is different, the areas are different, the battle system is different, the cutscenes are different, etc. It's not an enhanced port, it's two completely different games.
I don't know, but be aware that pre-orders for New 3DS (that implies advertisment too) started last Friday.
So we're going to see a drop for 3DS hardware sales this week.
Even we assume all the 3DS XL downloaded Dragon Quest the past week, I don't think that number will be bigger than 20k.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
I'm not at all surprised at the Wii U outselling the PS4 - I have a feeling Nintendo will win it this generation with all their amazing 1st party titles.
They have also stopped digital sales of FFXIV:RR when the game came out and the servers were so full, you couldn't a create a character on many of them.
Sometimes the news is so bad you just don't have the heart....
Kresnik258
Member
I was under the impression that the story was the same for both, and then the PS3 version had extra story content which the DS version didn't have.
I get that they're delivered differently. Much like you'll get 3DS version of Activision stuff (Skylanders; Spider-Man) tailored to that hardware but based on the home console release.
In the context of Japan, I'd consider that, "close enough" to give consumers a choice between what they want.
If that's not what happened with the game and it's completely different in every conceivable way, then never mind, I've misunderstood.. Sorry for making the comment.
Sammy Samusu
Member
I'm more interested in how PS4 performed this week.
Nightengale
Member
It'll be without the launch of Destiny,no?
I think he/she is curious how Sony's pre-TGS conference affected this week's sale. I could be wrong, though...
I'm just wondering what the bar is for "close enough" here. Like, in the context of the discussion, what are we looking at to see if it would be an appealing strategy for another company.
For Ninokuni, I don't think it was just about tailoring the "same game" to different platforms. Instead they were clearly making two different games based on similar story material, for two platforms. There was considerable effort invested into it, and I'm not sure if I'll agree it was even successful based on the intent.
The DS version of Ninokuni uses fixed camera backgrounds, a completely turn based battle system, and the physical magic spell book was packed in with every copy. It was intended to be a very exciting new toy for kids, banking on the Ghibli brand. Level5 didn't seem very pleased with the 600k or so it sold in Japan, considering the potential the DS had.
The PS3 version of Ninokuni is a fully 3D game with adjustable camera, a realtime battle system with AI party members, and it's designed to use a virtual spellbook in the game instead because stores apparently didn't like stocking the huge DS package. It ended up selling about 100k in Japan, which was a huge disappointment. It also came out a whole year after the DS version, because development took much longer. Sure, the overseas sales seemed to be pretty good (at 1.4 million sold for the series, that puts the sales outside of Japan at about 700k I guess?).
So in the end they funded two complete development teams to make two different games based on the same source concept, and one game sold 600k worldwide (the DS version was never released outside of Japan), while the other game sold 800k worldwide. For a huge undertaking like this, I would say it wasn't a very successful project at all. Level5 has many other games which sell way more than that - Layton, Inazuma Eleven, Yokai Watch. And all of these games were brand new IPs without the "brand power" of Ghibli, and the resources put into making two big RPGs on different platforms.
I guess in the end the question is - would it really be smart for S-E to look at this example and want to do it too?
Yes, that'll be next week. Maybe there'll be a small bump due to the pre-TGS conference.
I don't expect much from that. Japan tends to react when things are on the shelves, not just when they're announced.
Of course, the sales are so low right now that a coincidental bump might look like something it isn't (and then Dualshockers will write a headline "PS4 sales Soar an astounding 23% after Sony conference!").
Me too xD
Nope.
I think that IF dqx will perform positively on 3DS, they could go for a PS4 game with a streamed-version for 3ds.
a streamed singleplayer DQ? or will DQXI go the IX route with an Online MP (but more like the DS MP not an MMO? )
That's an interesting theory. Though I think that when DQXI finally comes out, the 4DS will probably be here already.
That doesn't sound like a reasonable option either. With DQX 3DS, the subscription fee (which is unique to the 3DS version and not applicable to the Wii/WiiU/PC versions) also offsets the cost of running the cloud services. People are willing to pay the fee because it is a MMO. If it's a single player RPG, charging a fee would be really silly (especially since the game wouldn't even really be completely "portable" if it's streamed).
Sounds like a terrible idea.
The Last One
Member
Oh I get it, Japan bought 3KG of Xbox One in its first week. Do the math guys.
iceatcs
Junior Member
Not sure about it. If Xbox made no difference than 360, then more Japanese devs will lose the big production job. And less big projects too.
People who get fired/quit right away likely is one of MS Japan employees.
test_account
XP-39C²
Unless there are many people sitting on the fence about the current PS4 games (which i personally doubt there are), i dont see any reason to buy a PS4 at this time in anticipation from what we saw from the pre-TGS Sony show. I wouldnt be surprised if the numbers even go a bit down because of the Dragon Quest Slime PS4 edition (people waiting to get that instead).
EDIT: And maybe also the wait for the white PS4 (Destiny bundle).
Not just that but even though it sold 600k the 3DS version was so poorly recieved it poisoned the market for the PS3 version in Japan
do we know that DQ11 will be a single player RPG?
If it is, I don't think they'll go for a stream-based 3DS version.
Still not sure that in that case they'd rule the 3Ds out to go for a PS4 exclusive (unless they found a deal with Sony): not because "omg I hate sony", but because to sell more than 3 millions copies it would mean to wait a lot imho in terms of install base.
Err...with all of the high selling games in Japan they put out it's currently selling 2k more than the PS4.. As of right now, the PS4 only has 2 notable cross-gen launch title games for the Japanese market. I don't see how the Wii U can sell more than the PS4 next year.
And_Gignac
Member
I don't see a reason (that doesn't relies on wishful thinking) why SQEnix would develop DQXI for the PS4.
Well, they did make DQX a subscription based MMO on the Wii. That was a really strange choice too.
Worst week since launch.
Wii was actually successful in Japan when DQ10 got announced. PS4 on the other hand is a huge flop.