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Mediocre games from franchises that aren't
- Thread starter Fracas
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plenty of mediocre games in there.
F.E.A.R. 3. (I refuse to write that abomination of a name with the 3 in place of the E)
It's a disgrace to the franchise, turning a psychological terror/horror FPS into a cover-based shooter with a co-op campaign (haven't tried it yet, so I can't comment on that). The scary moments are completely predictable, the story's a mess, the in-level challenges are annoying. And the game is full of arena-like scenes, where you're locked in a small area and you can't advance until you kill every enemy, each one usually lasting for 5 minutes or more, totally ruining the pace of the game.
If it's your first F.E.A.R. game you may get some enjoyment out of it. But this game takes the franchise in a direction I don't like at all, and I don't think I'd buy a sequel if it followed this route. It really hurts me, this is (was?) one of my favorite series, having loved every main game, expansion and DLC ever released. But every love has a limit, and this game crossed it far enough.
It's a disgrace to the franchise, turning a psychological terror/horror FPS into a cover-based shooter with a co-op campaign (haven't tried it yet, so I can't comment on that). The scary moments are completely predictable, the story's a mess, the in-level challenges are annoying. And the game is full of arena-like scenes, where you're locked in a small area and you can't advance until you kill every enemy, each one usually lasting for 5 minutes or more, totally ruining the pace of the game.
If it's your first F.E.A.R. game you may get some enjoyment out of it. But this game takes the franchise in a direction I don't like at all, and I don't think I'd buy a sequel if it followed this route. It really hurts me, this is (was?) one of my favorite series, having loved every main game, expansion and DLC ever released. But every love has a limit, and this game crossed it far enough.
Yeah, the half that was cut out. The rest is top-notch.
legacyzero
Banned
DAMMIT you beat me to it lol
papersleeves
Member
Whaa?
Mystic Quest may be way simpler than FFIV or FFVI, but I still had quite a bit of enjoyment out of it. For starter, the music is absolutely incredible.
But it IS the worst game from the main series.
Wrong. It's not perfect, but the new SSX from this year is very fun.
Metroid: Other M and Metroid Prime Hunters made my argument that "Metroid is the only series without any mediocre games" invalid.
Same goes for Mario games like NSMB DS and NSMB2 3DS. Mediocre is not the right word necessarily, but those games did not live up to the level of their respective franchises.
How could I forget about those games. Definitely the weakest entries in the series imo.
Same goes for Mario games like NSMB DS and NSMB2 3DS. Mediocre is not the right word necessarily, but those games did not live up to the level of their respective franchises.
How could I forget about those games. Definitely the weakest entries in the series imo.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
It was my polite way of saying "Metal Gear Solid 4 is an unbelievably shitty Metal Gear game, both in gameplay and story, and should be retconned out of the series."
It has it's problems but at the end of the day it is a really fun game.
Supermanisdead
Member
All the Zelda replies are FALSE. Not up to the 9/10 standards of Zelda isn't mediocre!
legacyzero
Banned
As much as I liked MGS4, I cant argue with you.
I think Old Snake and the rapid aging concepts almost killed it for me, so much that I always had the Young Snake mask on
While it wasn't a good game in its own right, it certainly was the better of the most recent ones IMO. I'd put Homecoming there instead TBH.
GTAIV will NEVER touch San Andreas. I worry that even GTAV wont =/
Metroid Prime Hunters is a great game if you understand that it's not meant to be just another Metroid Prime. It's a great (if unbalanced) multiplayer arena shooter. If you're judging it on it's SP content, you're doing it wrong.
Nope, it's not clear. I quite enjoyed both, particularly the dungeon design (and personally was quite fond of the timed Ocean temple that encouraged finding new paths and shortcuts.). The overworld wasn't particularly inspiring in either, I'll give you that (though better in PH), but far from mediocre games. I want another stylus-based Zelda.
papersleeves
Member
I never got that complaint. I really dig the realistic driving model from GTA IV.
Truth
B-But you can have a party full of cat-people in the game!
Yeah it wasn't very good. Encounter rates on the sea was fairly high and there is next to no dungeons in the game and some of them are more or less hallways. Only 4 characters in battle too.
There was some interesting parts in the game story wise like how you run away and end up as cast aways on an island and the whole evolution of Snowe's character but overall it wasn't very great.
Rockstar fucked up GTAIV. But they did wonders with RDR. Here's hoping GTAV's quality leads towards the latter.
+1
For all the shit I give the series, and despite not being a huge, raving fan, Kojima's vision and the quirky unification of ideas and meta humour has always been extremely consistent throughout a vast majority of the series. For example, I don't really like Metal Gear Solid 2 very much. But I can at least acknowledge it's confident in the vision of gameplay, themes, and presentation it's trying to uphold. Confidence is the key, and probably the most redeeming quality of KojiPro's work.
Except for MGS4. Everything about the game stinks of muddled ideas, schizophrenic vision, and strikes me of a development cycle that fell victim to the difficulties of developing for then "next generation hardware". Like has happened to so many developers, especially in the East. It feels like a game that has no firm grounding in what it wants to be or do, because there's some excellent ideas there, but none are given even close to the room to grow to their potential. The story and themes are even more erratic and disconnected than any of the past games.
To me MGS4 just feels like an exceptionally mediocre game in all respects. Almost like it's not finished, or at some point in development, somewhere near the end, they looked back over the project and went "oh fuck, none of this is coming together", and realised they didn't have the time to overhaul much of what needed to be overhauled.
As an entire piece of work it's by far the weakest link in the mainline Metal Gear series.
DMC 2 also stands out in this category.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Metroid: Other M the thread?
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
You pick Downpour over trash like Homecoming, Play Novel and Shattered Memories?
legacyzero
Banned
I cant bring myself to hate DMC2. It still has the best Dante character design, and the best Tune in the series. Come at me GAF.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR3sIWQP45w&list=PL9410C1E516D56800&index=1
The Wheel of Fortune
Member
Daamn, I'm not even past the first page and people mentioned R/B/S, Sunshine and Reach? This thread is a serious disappointment.
I was expecting Metroid: Other M and Prime Hunters...
I was expecting Metroid: Other M and Prime Hunters...
Eerie, those are the exact words in my mind.
Seven Force
Banned
Agreed on Ruby & Sapphire. Emerald was fantastic, though.
My contribution:
Nowhere near as fun as the games that came before (X-Men Vs. Street Fighter) and after (Marvel Vs. Capcom). It always seemed like a quick stopgap to hold people over for Marvel Vs Capcom to me.
I doubt many people here have played it since it's a cell phone game, but Mass Effect Infiltrator. It's like the Metroid Prime Hunters of Mass Effects.
And I really liked Reach Then again, I was never a huge Halo fan anyway so maybe the fact that it tried some new things was why I enjoyed it.
And I really liked Reach
Then again, I was never a huge Halo fan anyway so maybe the fact that it tried some new things was why I enjoyed it.Hell naw. I enjoyed it even more than I enjoyed OoT.
RockTurtle
Member
"Trash" and "Shattered Memories" on the same sentence? That's gotta be illegal, man.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Good story, awful gameplay.
AkimbO_Arcana
Banned
I expected much more Other M bashing when I clicked on this thread. I liked it for what it was, but yeah, compared to the rest of the series it's dreadful.
wat?
legacyzero
Banned
It was a good game by itself. Putting the Silent Hill name on it is really what should be illegal.
Even over Adventure 1&2?
This game was AMAZING compared to the latest one IMO. At least it still PLAYED like a proper AC.
Agree with this post, but even Ruby and Sapphire were better than these two:Agreed on Ruby & Sapphire. Emerald was fantastic, though.
My contribution:
Nowhere near as fun as the games that came before (X-Men Vs. Street Fighter) and after (Marvel Vs. Capcom). It always seemed like a quick stopgap to hold people over for Marvel Vs Capcom to me.
Then wouldn't those Sonic games be the exceptions in a mediocre or downright bad franchise
Diamond/Pearl was mediocre but only because it was soooo slow. Platinum sped some things up so it became a much more enjoyable game.
As for mediocre games from franchises... I'm one of the few that loved the MMBN games but then there's that dreadful 4. Most of the scenarios were sooooooo boring/tedious/god awful and the main story gets ignored for a good 90% of the game because that 90% of it is the stupid tournaments.
As for mediocre games from franchises... I'm one of the few that loved the MMBN games but then there's that dreadful 4. Most of the scenarios were sooooooo boring/tedious/god awful and the main story gets ignored for a good 90% of the game because that 90% of it is the stupid tournaments.
This is a good example of a mediocre game in a good series. Otherwise this looks to be another itt: the classics are shit or really bad games now qualify as only mediocre thread.
Deadlocked was alright on its own but it was too far of a change from the core formula.
Peter Bazooka
Banned
Calling Suikoden IV mediocre is being way too generous.