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brap

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Did you drop Sony after the Vita? Microsoft after the Xbox One?
Never cared about microsoft. Never bought the vita. Neither of them were as stupid as the wii u though. Did they really think everybody would assume it's a new nintendo console and not some tablet add on? All they had to do was change the fucking name. Retards.

The Switch is fucking awesome, man. Learn to live a little.
It's an overpriced tablet and you have to buy the controller separately. I'll either buy the pro (which will never come out) or when it gets a price drop.
 
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brap

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I left work and am unable to photograph my street fighter funkos, but here is my collection of bobble heads I have at home, plus Buddy Christ

Why don't you bring the Gronald Plumpf one to work?
 

Nymphae

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You should get a bobble head of A.D. Skinner assuming there is one.
I would have, but they only had those 2 in that style. The Mulder one looks amazing I think. Really wanted a Cigarette Smoking Man one, but they only have him in a Funko.
 
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Rhaknam

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I would have, but they only had those 2 in that style. The Mulder one looks amazing I think. Really wanted a Cigarette Smoking Man one, but they only have him in a Funko.
I'd get some of The Lone Gunmen to place beside my computer, haha.
 
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-Arcadia-

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Not gonna lie, some of the threads and shit that has been popping up lately make me lose some faith in where GAF is heading. Genuinely breaks my heart.
I can’t speak for Melon, but some of these threads look identical to ResetEra, with the same type of people, and the same level of hostility and bitterness within.

It really, really makes me not want to participate, when they come up.

It’s not about views, imo, it’s about how you express them. When you’re looking to discuss with another adult, and you get a screaming, tantruming child in your face, right down to the denial and bad faith argumentative tactics, that has nothing to offer anyone.
 

Rhaknam

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I can’t speak for Melon, but some of these threads look identical to ResetEra, with the same type of people, and the same level of hostility and bitterness within.

It really, really makes me not want to participate, when they come up.

It’s not about views, imo, it’s about how you express them. When you’re looking to discuss with another adult, and you get a screaming, tantruming child in your face, right down to the denial and bad faith argumentative tactics, that has nothing to offer anyone.
Do you mean the Yakuza transgender mission thread? I don't keep tabs on who posts what but I know anything supposedly SJW-related tend to be the most trending threads and that is nothing new for NeoGAF.
 
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-Arcadia-

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Do you mean the Yakuza transgender mission thread? I don't keep tabs on who posts what but I know anything SJW-related tend to be the most trending threads and that is nothing new for NeoGAF.
Somewhat? It seems they have a point there, despite being the worst about it, so I’m more speaking of the general threads that pull in SJWs.

There’s a very Reset-like atmosphere, where the second you try to make a point, you get dogpiled by several posters, all with the same unbearable, smug, hostile attitude, all engaging in the same bad faith argumentative tactics.

The thread of course, is immediately junked beyond repair, and no discussion possible, which is likely the point.

I don’t want an echo chamber, but I do want to be able to criticize and debate left-leaning opponents and positions in good faith, and receive the same good faith back from them, not... whatever’s going on right now. I think that’s totally fair.
 
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Rhaknam

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I don't care for the actual politics in a discussion. I signed up to talk about video games first and political/ethics decisions never, with the one exception being brap's thread about boyish-looking female characters because it's just ridiculous to see such a lack of creativity in character design.

Still, to say "where GAF is headed" would imply the issue is happening in a lot threads but are we talking about Gaming, Communities, Off-Topic, Politics, one or all of the above?
 
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-Arcadia-

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I don’t really frequent Politics, so I can’t really tell you about that.

I would say Gaming and Off-Topic. It’s definitely popping up pretty frequently these days.

As an aside, you may be here to talk about games first and foremost, but when we can’t even discuss, as you mentioned, highly ideologically motivated design choices in games, without the thread falling apart, it does begin to affect that too.
 

Scopa

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I’m stumped trying to figure out who is arguing “left-leaning positions in good faith”.

The prominent ones I know of cut and run after ignoring evidence and arguments and just blabber the same bullshit with their fingers in their ears. The opposite of good faith.

Have never seen a single one of them engage in a discussion honestly and ever take the opposing view into account. Not a single one.

Who are these phantoms you speak of?
 

-Arcadia-

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I’m stumped trying to figure out who is arguing “left-leaning positions in good faith”.

The prominent ones I know of cut and run after ignoring evidence and arguments and just blabber the same bullshit with their fingers in their ears. The opposite of good faith.

Have never seen a single one of them engage in a discussion honestly and ever take the opposing view into account. Not a single one.

Who are these phantoms you speak of?
I think we might agree, but have our words twisted.

I’m saying that people with left-leaning positions, not all of them, but a lot of them, are acting in these immature ways.
 
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Tesseract

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I can’t speak for Melon, but some of these threads look identical to ResetEra, with the same type of people, and the same level of hostility and bitterness within.

It really, really makes me not want to participate, when they come up.

It’s not about views, imo, it’s about how you express them. When you’re looking to discuss with another adult, and you get a screaming, tantruming child in your face, right down to the denial and bad faith argumentative tactics, that has nothing to offer anyone.
would need some examples, you should probably assume good faith until proven otherwise
 
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-Arcadia-

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would need some examples, you should probably assume good faith until proven otherwise
I do, as a hard rule. I would suggest to watch our SJWs in action when the next controversy comes up. Try to start a conversation with an opposing, sensible position, and the result should be evident rapidly.
 
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Rhaknam

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As long as people are actually interested in having a conversation and not just posting to see those trainwrecks.
 

-Arcadia-

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Sorry for being a little delayed. I think this is a good example of the things I was talking about, and it seems to really kick off from there.

Is it the best example? I could do better. I have no desire to spend all night reading through brain-dead posts however, so you’ll have to meet me halfway.


Once again, I also really recommend just watching one of these unfold live.
 

Rhaknam

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Sorry for being a little delayed. I think this is a good example of the things I was talking about, and it seems to really kick off from there.

Is it the best example? I could do better. I have no desire to spend all night reading through brain-dead posts however, so you’ll have to meet me halfway.


Once again, I also really recommend just watching one of these unfold live.
So you said before how threads were immediately junked beyond repair but link us to the 10th page of one? And then it goes on for another 14 pages. I mean, this is the thread that I mentioned in my post but I thought you and Melon Melon were talking about something more recent like the Yakuza transgender mission thread.
 

-Arcadia-

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I didn’t really want to make a formal complaint. This ended up being a response to someone else, then answering questions that came up, for quite a while, and tagging some people that could maybe do a better job at explaining than me.

I guess I could sum it up as a general frustration that any sufficiently controversial thread will be trashed by Reee-tier posters, and it’s not specifically their ideology that frustrates me, but their tactics and how they act, and the atmosphere they create in a thread.

I don’t think I’m any model poster in that regard, before I go throwing stones in a glass house, but some of these posters seem beyond the pale.
 
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