Rogue Agent
Banned
It's recycled artwork.
Why is Yoji such a beast artist? So good.It's recycled artwork.
God damn I want this game so bad. I just went out and bought a PS4 two weeks ago just for this fucking game and I'll probably play it WAY more than Snorefest: Shadow Fall. I really am glad I waited until I got my PS4 too, I originally had it one per-ordered for launch but realized there were no games at launch I gave a shit about and without backwards compatibility I knew I'd be bored a week after I got it. And of course now that I've got one my instincts turned out to be correct, Shadow Fall is showered in mediocrity and I have no real desire to really dive into its multiplayer.
I need this game now, I don't care how short it is it will be better than anything else right now on this new shiny system.
Cool story bro. Tell me more about how you bought a PS4 for a demo.
Some demos lasted me more than full games. It's all about dat quality.
You can use one piece of paper hundreds of times before disposing of it. It's still one piece of paper. Just because you're frugal with that piece of paper, doesn't mean you should buy it for the price of a whole notepad. And believe me, the more people who buy it, the more they will keep charging you that notepad price.
I really didn't think it needed dumbing down.
Cool story bro. Tell me more about how you bought a PS4 for a demo.
Cool story bro. Tell me more about how you bought a PS4 for a demo.
Any MGS fan who can afford it would buy a PS4 to play GZ.
Heck that's the only reason I bought mine last week.
I've personally completed MGS1 8 times...
You can use one piece of paper hundreds of times before disposing of it. It's still one piece of paper. Just because you're frugal with that piece of paper, doesn't mean you should buy it for the price of a whole notepad. And believe me, the more people who buy it, the more they will keep charging you that notepad price.
I really didn't think it needed dumbing down.
What if it's an incredibly awesome piece of paper that you spend hours playing with and actually enjoy every second of "being frugal with"? Is it somehow less valuable than an entire notebook of boring wide-ruled paper?
Isn't it being a book a better analogy?That notebook is the Phantom Pain, and Kojima has stated it is 100x times the size of that piece of paper Ground Zeroes, yet GZ costs 60% of what Phantom Pain does. You tell me if that makes sense.
That notebook is the Phantom Pain, and Kojima has stated it is 100x times the size of that piece of paper Ground Zeroes, yet GZ costs 60% of what Phantom Pain does. You tell me if that makes sense.
the notebook in my example was actually any other "full" game that someone could consider boring and a waste of their money. Phantom Pain isn't part of this example since it's a completely separate game and we're only discussing whether or not GZ is worth its price tag based on its content alone.
If you think GZ should have been kept a part of MGSV, that's a valid opinion, but some people (like myself) would rather play Ground Zeroes now to soften the pain of waiting a year or two for Phantom Pain to come out. To claim that buying GZ makes someone "part of the problem" because developers will now realize they can charge for "demos" is a bit ridiculous. Mostly because people are entitled to spend their money any way they want, and partly because one could argue that purchasing anything at full price makes a consumer "part of the problem" because companies know you'll pay full price for their product and they can continue charging you a premium for it.
If you don't think GZ is worth its price tag, vote with your wallet and don't buy it. But telling other people they shouldn't buy it or should feel bad for buying something they genuinely want is ridiculous.
You are beyond basic logic. Why compare GZ with any other shit when the point here is to compare it with a widely accepted idea of what a full game by our beloved developer constitutes (PP)? But of course, you are going to create a straw-man to argue your point.
Your post is essentially saying I can vote how I want. Yes that is true, and it is also true I am entitled to discuss my vote. Why is discussing things a ridiculous idea to you?
Cool story bro. Tell me more about how you bought a PS4 for a demo.
That notebook is the Phantom Pain, and Kojima has stated it is 100x times the size of that piece of paper Ground Zeroes, yet GZ costs 60% of what Phantom Pain does. You tell me if that makes sense.
Discussing things is great, and exactly what GAF is for, but...
How is this discussing?
Way to take things out of context to avoid addressing the point. Enjoy your internet points.
That's out of context how? You took a cheap shot to start your oh so reasonable argument. Own up to it. Internet points...lookit this guy.Way to take things out of context to avoid addressing the point. Enjoy your internet points.
It's recycled artwork.
Not sure who is this person but he is answering questions, he say that he "saw" the artwork of young Grey Fox too.
Solidus face transplant? What?
Oh, maybe he's talking about MGS4.
Ugh, awful. I can do a vinyl decal of that if anyone wants. :|
That looks nice. I wish people would sell just the design part like how x360 used to have the faceplate. I for one would like the foxhound logo, not slanted but aligned, or a drawing of Snake or Gray Fox in Yoji's art style.
Still, though, it's come to light that there is more to Ground Zeroes, and it's more significant and substantial side-content than previously thought. So, for someone like me who loves replaying Metal Gear games to explore and experiment, it's looking like an easier purchase. The ever-dwindling Ground Zeroes Playtime Count is now up to around five hours or so before you ever have to replay any content which, at $30... well, it's still overpriced, but it's less egregious than it was last week. Not exactly laudable, but certainly out of 'paid demo' territory, at the very least.
In short, any Metal Gear game already has replay value out the wazoo, and an open-world setting is only going to add to that, so I'm looking forward to the game. But if you're a one-and-done kind of player, then you're absolutely justified in staying well away.
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The writer doesn’t feel Ground Zeroes is short, they think an average player can easily put 8-10 hours into the game. The best player at Kojima Productions spent more than 100 hours discovering all secrets.
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Snake leaves footprints in the mud, which can be spotted by guards. This is just one of the things that adds to the difficulty, other things include better fields of visions for guards, randomized patrol routes and search lights; there are many things that can give your position away.
Impressions
Play Magazines Sam Smith was more precise on what kind of completion percentage youre going to by finishing the game in 90 minutes:
"Finished GZ for the first time in about 90 minutes. Total game completion? 9%. I think that tells you all you need to know."
@DouglasNerd added more to the debate about gameplay time, and talked about controls and the PS4 version of the game:
"So yeah, the main mission of Ground Zeroes is short. BUT, you really are not going to find and discover everything in 2 hours.
Controls are much, much better than in MGS4. Really easy to do all the stuff you want, easier to interrogate enemies etc.
Btw, the frame rate is butter smooth on PS4."
The link above has a few more impressions, but they are trending all over Konami's Twitter as well. Sorry if this has been posted (didn't see it)!
Bonus:
Giacomo Vaccari ‏@GiacomoVaccari:
Completed a full-stealth run of MGSV:GZ. Stealth is the best it's been yet. Controls are more fluid while staying true to MGS #MGSVGZNASU
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