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Metro: Last Light Preview (Sequel to Metro 2033) [2012, Multiplayer, Screenshots]
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Angry Fork
Member
DAY ONE. I loved Metro 2033. The atmosphere and visuals on PC are soooo good. Don't care about multi player though and am annoyed they're wasting time with that shit but it's expected these days.
The only things i'd want improved from the first was some more varied environments and the gunplay was a bit wonky even though I loved the shotgun. I also hated the stealth missions (even though stealth is optional, I prefer to stealth when I can), I don't like when games allow you to use stealth and then don't tell/show you how to avoid being seen. You can't really tell whether the shadow you're in will completely hide you or if they'll hear a certain footstep etc.
Screenshots don't look that good imo but it's still a long ways away, lots of time for improvement and direct video of maxed out PC version later on.
MrDanger88
Member
Wow looking really good. I still need to finish the first one.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
As I was moderator for THQ/KAOS on Homefront I may possibly be involved with this game as lead moderator as well, I am excited to see what the team comes up with!
Automatisch
Member
I just want the books in English on Kindle before I can get excited about a sequel to the game.
BigBlackGamer
Member
I need to finish Metro 2033, at least I have a reason to get a second 6970 now.
nelsonroyale
Member
No way it looks like those shots...major photoshopping going on there...sure it will look good though
Angry Fork
Member
I don't get how you guys are acting like they're bullshots, they look obviously in-game in alpha stage or something to me. They don't look that good if you ignore the depth of field which may be the only doctored thing about them. There's noticeable jaggies, has weak textures etc. the first game maxed out looks better than those screens. Hell games like Just Cause 2 maxed out, Mafia 2 etc. look better imo. It doesn't bother me since I know there'll be tons of improvement by next year but the bullshots thing is confusing me.
nextgeneration
Member
If you turn up MSAA to 4x, I imagine the gameplay will be close to these shots.
I only played on Ranger easy, but tunnel fighting monsters, running out of ammo and explosives, having my mask shattered, then knifing monsters while running in and out of toxic areas with my vision blurring and killing the last monster with my last breath so to speak before sprinting back to safety = super mega duper awesome
True, the fight could´ve been over much earlier if I hadn´t accidentaly skipped the talking part and known I had to arm bombs (And where), but hey, still one of the best gaming moments I had this year.
Improve perfomance, don´t dumb the game down, that´s all I´m asking for.
True, the fight could´ve been over much earlier if I hadn´t accidentaly skipped the talking part and known I had to arm bombs (And where), but hey, still one of the best gaming moments I had this year.
Improve perfomance, don´t dumb the game down, that´s all I´m asking for.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Everything on that list he made was executed really poorlyArjanN said:
Angry Fork
Member
A LOT of the maxed out screenshots in the PC screenshot thread look WAY better than the ones in OP. I really don't see what you guys are seeing that makes those screens look like bullshots.Mr_Brit said:
nextgeneration
Member
Mr_Brit said:
Yeah, these shots look photoshopped. I'm just saying that with 4x MSAA, while the game won't look like that, it should still look pretty damn good.
Angry Fork
Member
I can't see it. I can circle lots of points where the vegetation looks bad, the concrete textures look bad, lots of jaggies/sharp edges etc. but the only thing I see that's obviously photoshop is depth of field stuff, which isn't that big of a deal (the 3rd screenshot is obviously overdone though). If they did photoshop this then they did a terrible job because it can look way better.Mr_Brit said:
indigo-cyclops
Member
Count me in for this beautiful gem. Man, I LOVED Metro 2033.
Stallion Free said:Everything on that list he made was executed really poorly
I thought most of it was OK, for example I thought the monster design was really good. Anyway, they should strive to improve in those areas, not just turn the game into a run of the mill shooter. Removing stealth and adding more gunfights would totally change the nature of the game.
cagelessrat
Member
Does anyone know the song and/or artist in the teaser?
I never played the first one, but I like the narrative/environment concept. I guess it's time to check it out.
I never played the first one, but I like the narrative/environment concept. I guess it's time to check it out.
Gram Negative Cocci
Member
nelsonroyale said:
What's photoshopped in there? AA from PC version? Get a clue.
cagelessrat
Member
Reknoc said:
Thanks! I love it.
I went to the youtube video for the song...and all the comments are, "I watched the Metro Last Light trailer, and now I'm here." Haha.
PjotrStroganov
Member
Wazzim said:
Although the advanced options probably made a difference to the iq, I really didn't notice when switching them off.
Need to play the first one still. (From the sounds of it, on Ranger mode.)
I hope the MP will be done well and not do any of the following:
-COD4 clone
-be terrible
All that being said, looking forward to this. Those bullshots are delicious. The first game looked so good that I wouldn't be surprised if the PC version looked somewhat close to that in the end.
I hope the MP will be done well and not do any of the following:
-COD4 clone
-be terrible
All that being said, looking forward to this. Those bullshots are delicious. The first game looked so good that I wouldn't be surprised if the PC version looked somewhat close to that in the end.
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
I see people only offering knee-jerk reactions yet again without even bothering to counter my points, so i'll just take this opportunity to further strengthen them.
Please fix:
- character models..
.. the bodies and costumes are excellent. However, the faces leave a lot to be desired. Everyone looks too 'sharp', has skin too clean and plastic-like, and have eyes too wide. I often felt the piercing wrath of this fellow in my playthrough:
They need more realistic eyes for a start and a better skin texture with more pores visible. Children's bodies also need to have better scale.
- monster designs..
.. particularly these ape-like monsters:
I have said this numerous times before, but they are simply an uninspired "big brute" design that you see in countless other media. They are generic and their AI is just mindless. When fighting them, they basically act like bullet sponges, absorbing all your precious ammo and offering no distinct reactions depending on where you hit them. Another thing 4A need to improve is the variety of sounds the monsters make when they hit the player (in fact sound design as a whole needs to be fixed too - the shotgun melee attack sounds like squeezing out a shit).
The flying creatures were pretty cool, but the apes were the majority of the enemies so I mainly judge it by them.
- boring story..
.. when you break down the plot in Metro 2033 to its core, it is practically a point A to B journey... like, you literally move up a tunnel from one part to the other. You stop along the way and befriend some characters like Khan and Bourbon, but most encounters are throwaway and only somewhat improve the journey, not the final outcome. Once you reach the end, they are meaningless. The ending was also pretty hastily done, showing no repercussions for your actions (but I guess that is what the sequel is for..). The whole Dark Ones sub-plot with the hallucinations was confusing, especially when they tried to unsuccessfully replicate some FEAR-esque mindfuck sequences. Leave me in reality next time, please.
- remove the narration..
.. I don't know how anyone could argue that this isn't in need of being fixed. Perhaps you all played in Russian. I played in English, which meant my Artyom had zero charisma in the delivery of his lines. He sounded like he had been in a bad accident and had to slur his speech, never injecting any proper emotion or inflection into the dialogue. iirc, he also never spoke in the game... why not?
- add more gunfights..
.. one of the areas which shined in 2033 were the larger gunfights, as opposed to creeping through the linear Metro tunnels. Stuff like the intro, holding off waves of a Dark One attack, fighting tons of Nazis in the snow and a few fights in the last chapter were moments where I actually saw the more action-orientated potential that the game had. 4A proved they can do exciting set-pieces, so why not make the entire game like that without making you traipse around for the sake of the 'atmosphere' and story in RPG-lite town sections?
- remove all stealth..
.. a shining beacon of why this would be a good idea is Chapter 3, when Bourbon gets captured. The stealth is as woefully tacked-on as the majority of other FPS games, relying more on luck than skill and not showing any leniency for player mistakes. The guard's AI is just too vigilant, their patrol routes too fast, and at the moment they find a dead body you are fucked. If you aren't making a fully fledged stealth game, you best make some concessions to fit it into your game properly.
And yes, multiplayer is a good start because the game was 6.5 hours long with limited replay value (let's just say I wouldn't want to play it again). It needs some sort of incentive to keep people playing.
Please fix:
- character models..
.. the bodies and costumes are excellent. However, the faces leave a lot to be desired. Everyone looks too 'sharp', has skin too clean and plastic-like, and have eyes too wide. I often felt the piercing wrath of this fellow in my playthrough:
They need more realistic eyes for a start and a better skin texture with more pores visible. Children's bodies also need to have better scale.
- monster designs..
.. particularly these ape-like monsters:
I have said this numerous times before, but they are simply an uninspired "big brute" design that you see in countless other media. They are generic and their AI is just mindless. When fighting them, they basically act like bullet sponges, absorbing all your precious ammo and offering no distinct reactions depending on where you hit them. Another thing 4A need to improve is the variety of sounds the monsters make when they hit the player (in fact sound design as a whole needs to be fixed too - the shotgun melee attack sounds like squeezing out a shit).
The flying creatures were pretty cool, but the apes were the majority of the enemies so I mainly judge it by them.
- boring story..
.. when you break down the plot in Metro 2033 to its core, it is practically a point A to B journey... like, you literally move up a tunnel from one part to the other. You stop along the way and befriend some characters like Khan and Bourbon, but most encounters are throwaway and only somewhat improve the journey, not the final outcome. Once you reach the end, they are meaningless. The ending was also pretty hastily done, showing no repercussions for your actions (but I guess that is what the sequel is for..). The whole Dark Ones sub-plot with the hallucinations was confusing, especially when they tried to unsuccessfully replicate some FEAR-esque mindfuck sequences. Leave me in reality next time, please.
- remove the narration..
.. I don't know how anyone could argue that this isn't in need of being fixed. Perhaps you all played in Russian. I played in English, which meant my Artyom had zero charisma in the delivery of his lines. He sounded like he had been in a bad accident and had to slur his speech, never injecting any proper emotion or inflection into the dialogue. iirc, he also never spoke in the game... why not?
- add more gunfights..
.. one of the areas which shined in 2033 were the larger gunfights, as opposed to creeping through the linear Metro tunnels. Stuff like the intro, holding off waves of a Dark One attack, fighting tons of Nazis in the snow and a few fights in the last chapter were moments where I actually saw the more action-orientated potential that the game had. 4A proved they can do exciting set-pieces, so why not make the entire game like that without making you traipse around for the sake of the 'atmosphere' and story in RPG-lite town sections?
- remove all stealth..
.. a shining beacon of why this would be a good idea is Chapter 3, when Bourbon gets captured. The stealth is as woefully tacked-on as the majority of other FPS games, relying more on luck than skill and not showing any leniency for player mistakes. The guard's AI is just too vigilant, their patrol routes too fast, and at the moment they find a dead body you are fucked. If you aren't making a fully fledged stealth game, you best make some concessions to fit it into your game properly.
And yes, multiplayer is a good start because the game was 6.5 hours long with limited replay value (let's just say I wouldn't want to play it again). It needs some sort of incentive to keep people playing.
Alligatorjandro
Banned
I want to play the first one but its still too much money.