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Metroid fans, don't sleep on: Metroid II: Return of Samus
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poodaddy
Member
This is the only Metroid game I haven't played, but to be honest I think I'll just wait for the 3DS remake; it looks like it's gonna be quality stuff and the melee counter mechanic looks incredibly fun. I've found that when I go back to play games that were Gameboy exclusive, even if I enjoyed them as a kid like Link's Awakening, I just can't get into them as much these days.
Really?
An average playthrough is only 4 hours?
I seem to remember this taking a lot longer when I was a kid...
I haven't played Metroid II since it first came out, but I know it took me a lot longer than 4 hours... Mostly because I was lost as fuck.
Without differentiating each zone with colors, it's a lot harder to figure out where you are...
I'm absolutely looking forward to the new version, which I hope will alleviate the issue by adding some much needed color (and a map).
Color is definitely one advantage the original game had over its sequel...
I don't recall needing a map to play Metroid I...
An average playthrough is only 4 hours?
I seem to remember this taking a lot longer when I was a kid...
I haven't played Metroid II since it first came out, but I know it took me a lot longer than 4 hours... Mostly because I was lost as fuck.
Without differentiating each zone with colors, it's a lot harder to figure out where you are...
I'm absolutely looking forward to the new version, which I hope will alleviate the issue by adding some much needed color (and a map).
Color is definitely one advantage the original game had over its sequel...
I don't recall needing a map to play Metroid I...
secretanchitman
Member
Played through the game many years ago and it sucked. AM2R is so much better and I will be playing the new 3DS game when it comes out.
mindatlarge
Member
I played through Metroid II on 3DS when it came out on the eShop and really enjoyed it, minus a couple times when I got hopefully lost and had to resort to looking up a map for it. Great little game considering the system it was on.
Really looking forward to the remake!
Really looking forward to the remake!
Linkstrikesback
Member
There really is no reason to.play the Gameboy version. It aged very badly.
Either play AM2R or wait for the upcoming 3ds version. It's not that far out.
Either play AM2R or wait for the upcoming 3ds version. It's not that far out.
Pre-Super Metroid Metroid isn't really worth trying to play today. The first game for historical value, sure, but Zero Mission is a better game, and there's no reason to slog through Metroid 2 unless you played it as a kid and have rose glasses in place already, because otherwise it's just primitive and annoying. AM2R and Samus Returns are very needed things.
Team Filler
Member
Ironic, considering the last time I tried playing the game for an extended period of time I fell asleep. Not trashing the game, just find it to have aged the worst.
People definitely shouldn't skip AM2R though. I think that game maybe even eclipses Zero Mission in how much is improved in the remake over the original.
People definitely shouldn't skip AM2R though. I think that game maybe even eclipses Zero Mission in how much is improved in the remake over the original.
DrROBschiz
Member
got rid of my 3DS and am not looking back
maybe if they port it
maybe if they port it
sixteen-bit
Member
Did you sell your game boy too?
GurgleBot20
Member
I recommend that people play the game, even if it's FOR historical value. The worst that could happen is that you played an old game you didn't like and got a perspective for the state of the series in 1986/1991.
And I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the idea of Zero Mission/Samus Returns being outright replacements for the originals, as so much has changed that they might as well be considered different games entirely.
Jawmuncher
Member
I own it on 3DS. Fucking hate it. I'll sleep on that game until the day I die. Really glad for the remake/reimagining so I can play that chapter without touching the original.
Metroid 1 and 2 are games I'll always play the remakes over the originals.
Metroid 1 and 2 are games I'll always play the remakes over the originals.
ratcliffja
Member
I played it via the Ambassador program and loved it. I'm not sure where all the dislike for the game is coming from. It felt way ahead of its time.
It's a great game with an amazing atmosphere and from the looks of it the 'remake' will be a completely different game and by no means a replacement, so there is really no excuse not to play it. Just don't go in expecting Super Metroid
because the remake is by no means just small QoL updates. It's an entirely new game that pretty much just shares the overall structure, story and other superficial similarities. There's no reason not to play both
because the remake is by no means just small QoL updates. It's an entirely new game that pretty much just shares the overall structure, story and other superficial similarities. There's no reason not to play both
Only in EU, unfortunately.
Neff
Member
From what I've seen of MSR, I expect the two to be pretty different experiences to play through. If you're concerned about being spoiled on the content, structure et al. I suppose I would just recommend you consider trying out the OG if you end up enjoying the remake. At the least it's a very small time investment and I think it will feel fairly different to play each.
Jangowuzhere
Banned
I really wish it wasn't on the 3DS...
Hard to get excited about playing it on such an uncomfortable and cumbersome device
Hard to get excited about playing it on such an uncomfortable and cumbersome device
C.Olimar788
Member
Metroid II is a really difficult game to love unless you are ok with drawing maps with pen and paper as you go. And grinding energy if you get hit too many times or, heaven forbid, die.
It's probably worth trying for $4, but then you should move on and play AM2R instead, which is simply excellent.
It's probably worth trying for $4, but then you should move on and play AM2R instead, which is simply excellent.
Poltergust
Member
Lost? It's the most linear Metroid game, even when taking Fusion and Other M into account.
C.Olimar788
Member
The lack of ingame map and the fact that many of the areas look extremely similar if not identical makes it extremely easy to get hopelessly lost without external resources.
Jawbreaker
Member
AM2R is pretty good.
Yes I really dislike Zero Mission as a remake. And since super Metroid already revisited so many of the areas from Metroid 1 anyway, it just ends up feeling like a shittier version of SM instead.
At least Samus Returns looks like an interesting game on it's own that brings some new stuff to the table instead of just being another Super Metroid rehash, but I still can't really see it as a remake.
If you completely change the gameplay, level design, and overall feel of the game, what's the point of calling it a remake rather than a new game? Story, I guess? But who gives a shit about that in a Metroid game?
Heart of Black
Member
Metroid 2 is excellent.
It leaves you lost on an alien planet, where the aliens keep getting more alien. The game is claustrophobic, and uncomfortable, which is perfect for the game where you're basically in an alien horror movie, where YOU quickly become the biggest threat the planet knows.
Also here's a great piece around comparing Metroid 2 to other games in the series is flawed
It leaves you lost on an alien planet, where the aliens keep getting more alien. The game is claustrophobic, and uncomfortable, which is perfect for the game where you're basically in an alien horror movie, where YOU quickly become the biggest threat the planet knows.
Also here's a great piece around comparing Metroid 2 to other games in the series is flawed
sixteen-bit
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RadarScope1
Member
Nice work, OP. I'm with you. I'm replaying it now on my SGB and CRT. I'm in the fourth major area and I've defeated about 16 or 17 of the 39 Metroids. Here's what I posted earlier today in the Samus Returns thread:
It's not a terrible game. It's just kind of one-dimensional. It's retro ... it's a GB game from 1991. The music and atmosphere they created with that hardware is really something else, though.
I recommend keeping a map handy and using it when you need to. The game isn't all that complex, though. Just make sure you explore every wall and ceiling as you go and you'll be fine.
It's not a terrible game. It's just kind of one-dimensional. It's retro ... it's a GB game from 1991. The music and atmosphere they created with that hardware is really something else, though.
I recommend keeping a map handy and using it when you need to. The game isn't all that complex, though. Just make sure you explore every wall and ceiling as you go and you'll be fine.
GurgleBot20
Member
Shitty is kind of a strong adjective, but I sort of agree. In some aspects, Super Metroid already feels like a remake of Metroid 1, with similar areas, bosses, but with the goal of 1-upping it (I've always liked how it does a bait and switch with small and tall Kraid for example). Zero Mission takes quite a bit from Super Metroid as well as from the original, but with worse aesthetics (Graphics, art style, music, due mostly to hardware of the GBA), and is about half as long.
I still like Zero Mission to an extent, but it's certainly no Resident Evil Remake.
Metroid 2 is cool because it's actually about metroids, it's actually about bounty hunting, and it adds a lot to the setting without a single word. No boring scan logs or bad cutscenes anywhere to be found.
It's especially tense because taking a step forward could cause the metroid to evolve to a form that you aren't ready to fight yet.
afternoon delight
Member
Especially if it's your only option. Fan game or no, that shit is great.
GurgleBot20
Member
I think revisiting the story after Fusion will be a bit odd though...
"Who knew that driving a species to extinction would lead to a massive ecological disaster?"
Thanks man. Saw your post in the other thread after I made the thread and was glad to see you're replaying it. That sounds like a lovely way to play it. It's really the atmosphere that most impresses me, the combo of music and art is positively eerie.
whalleywhat
Member
Really? After the announcement of YAM2R, I want to set it aside definitively.
bennywhatever
Member
My favorite Game Boy game next to Link's Awakening. The music is sublime and I for one actually love the gameplay.
I remember the first time I beat it, it took me like 6 months. I was a kid and this game was way to freaking hard for me. Now it takes around 1.5 hours.
I remember the first time I beat it, it took me like 6 months. I was a kid and this game was way to freaking hard for me. Now it takes around 1.5 hours.
butzopower
proud of his butz
Ya, but that next track: https://youtu.be/J9IbS0PiLXc?list=PLF2101F8A7650A7A9 and https://youtu.be/TNx3euo6KcU?list=PLF2101F8A7650A7A9 Such good use of GB noise generator. Some of the music in M2 is so alien and weird and wonderful.